[Closed] Where is everyone buying their second hand stuff now?

facebook selling groups

new classifieds

Pink bike has always been way better than the classifieds on here, unless yer after some mad obscure singlespeed bikepacking thing.

I just sold two bikes and a pair of forks and bought a lovely bike. Working well for me 🙂

Think people are just struggling a bit with the 'change' so it might not appear so active but once folk realise how much easier is it to post pics etc I reckon it will pick up. The boosted ads make it look less active than it really is

Facebook marketplace, cycletrader and Yorkshire cycle sales

Not shopped much in the UK but Facebook groups and Pinkbike do really well

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What do you need Ghosty?
I have a ton of stuff I should have listed on the classifieds before they "improved" it

PB & Ebay.

I have a ton of stuff I should have listed on the classifieds before they “improved” it

I think this true of many people. While the new classifieds are better in terms of pic hosting, required info ect, it makes putting up a few little bits and bobs somewhat long winded in comparison to the old setup.
I mean, I like the idea of the new classifieds and it is an improvement for a given value of improvement, however the 'no browser extension' thing is a bit of a kicker considering the sheer amount of information pillaging, errant scripts and trackers that are going on behind the scenes, as well as the advertisements that are definitely not an ads in the side bar.

Curates egg, innit?

not on here, because it is now shyte.

and i have a load of stuff to shift.

Pinkbike and Facebook groups.

What FB groups are people finding the best?

There's guy who stands down the corner by the Dog n' Duck, big dirty Mac, you can't miss him.

Has anyone asked the classifieds only users? As they haven’t mentioned any issues?

Pinkbike.

I have been using Pibkbike, but I have a load of stuff to shift, likelyhood being I just won’t bother until it becomes enough of a problem then do a Facebook/pinkbike/eBay clear out.

I’d love to agree with those saying, the new classifieds are fine but... I have been looking for parts too and hardly any have been posted, compared to the old listings.
Replies to wanted posts have also diminished too.
Sellers also never seem to see messages either, as non ever reply... or maybe it’s just me

Ton, as a regular customer I've sent you a pm

Another vote for Pinkbike, it just works well for buying and selling.

I've bought and sold a few things on here over the years as well as using Pinkbike and stuff would get way more interest and sell quicker on Pinkbike so I gave up using the classifieds on here before the change.

I can see what they were trying to do with the new classifieds and having different categorys is an improvement but it's not as user friendly.

I need to get some parts. Before I could almost be guaranteed the stuff I’d need would pop up within a couple of weeks.

20% of the time someone would post the items 100% of the time.

Have you tried posting a wanted and?

If I had a quid for every thread on STW about the new classifieds I wouldn't need to sell any bike bits.

Nor me MrP

It's a self-fulfilling prophesy.

Everyone is saying the new Classifieds are shit, so no one is using them so they're shit.

Can anyone recommend any decent facebook groups for buying bits?

Thanks

MTB Bay on Facebook seems pretty active. I've bought and sold stuff on there before pretty easily.

I've just put an ad for winter boots on these classifieds and a duplicate on MTB Bay - so will soon see which place shifts them more effectively.

27 Ads in 24 hours all these Classifieds threads migth be helping things too.

Drac - "browsing" the new For Sale section would be easier if it didn't contain Wanted ads too. Do you know if there are plans to remove those?

I'm not sure if there is or not, I do find that a little clumsy too.

I've just listed my Hightower frame and my cube XC bike on here and Pinkbike for now. I'll probably give it a week then add them to some of the Facebook groups.

Might be an unpopular opinion, but I actually like the new classifieds. It's easy to use and upload pictures.

Trying to avoid eBay due to the high fees and chancers.

Might be an unpopular opinion, but I actually like the new classifieds.

Only 5 people actually don't liket it they just don't shut up about it and one of those waa using it before the old one closed. 😂

I think the new classifieds are ok. They are just empty. There used to be a huge amount of stuff ticking through all the time. Now it hardly ever changes.

To be blunt, I'm just not interested in a sub-pinkbike classifieds offering.
The loss of the old ones' USP is a shame... But let's move on and leave them to the hordes of happy customers we are assured are enjoying them.
One thought though: can we repurpose the old classified forum for threads complaining about the new classifieds?

Further to my earlier post where I posted ads on Facebook and Singletrack classifieds at the same time, Singletrack is the clear winner, with a buyer on day one.

There used to be a huge amount of stuff ticking through all the time. Now it hardly ever changes.

24 new adverts since your original post.

Drac, is that aimed at me? Because yes I used the new system, in fact I was all for it when mark launches it (check my post history) but that was on the basis of promises to change and development in the system. Also before asking customers who had already paid to be a member online to have a limited number of ads. Plus I never sold anything on the system. It always sold by other means first. But there is no point having a conversation with you bout it as it’s not your call, plus we get bamboozled with stats we can’t verify either way.

It isn’t going to bring the old classifieds back and given the amount of crap that’s been flying about I cannot ever see any humble pie being eaten.

Further to my earlier post where I posted ads on Facebook and Singletrack classifieds at the same time, Singletrack is the clear winner, with a buyer on day one.

Was it Drac?

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Also before asking customers who had already paid to be a member online to have a limited number of ads.

This again. You're allowed more now then the previous classifieds.

plus we get bamboozled with stats we can’t verify either way.

Count the ads in the last 24 hours.

No it wasn't me Scotroutes as a loyal customer I got sent so me for free.

24 new adverts since your original post.

i used to do 24 adverts a week myself. not done any since the change, guess why?

Because you've chosen not to.

That and your posting history says about 8 a month.

We can count the ads posted on the new, but the old forum doesn’t give us the ability to compare dates. It just says ‘a year ago’. Also you are counting wanted ads, which was a separate forum. Plus we don’t have viewer click through stats like you! So as a result we have to take your world for it and given the disdain the readership have been shown lately I’m not likely to believe.

Finally the reason I mention several times about ad caps is the multi listings under 1 ad doesn’t work! You can’t list a title long enough on a mobile and it shows only the first image on mobile devices. This is the point! All these small issues we were told were being reviewed and considered....but they haven’t! It’s been left half arsed and half working like the other forum issues and when paying customers (I repeat this again as I am one) complain they get sneered at and have sarcastic responses.

drac, because it is too much hassle to use.

Like I said you chose not to.

Like I said you chose not to.

because it is too much hassle to use.

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Like I said you chose not to.

and do you ever think to stop and ask yourself WHY he chooses not to? Or do you get some sort of perverse pleasure out of being a dick to everyone that disagrees with dracbot

No and no.

Only 5 people actually don’t liket it they just don’t shut up about it

I've bitten my tongue 😉

No and no.

and that is the answer from a bloke chosen to police the forum.

and that is the answer from a bloke chosen to police the forum

Not investigate why people are/aren't using it as they were before. He enforces the rules, that's all.

I thought you might have been busy Bez. 😬

Correct Ton. I have given zero thought into why you have chosen not to use the new classifieds when others such as Russ have used it.

That and what Tom says.

well you as a forum official should be giving some serious thought into why people are not using the new classifieds.

Must admit I,ve lost the love for the NEW classifieds cannot be arsed for all the faffing and scrolling 🙁

But he's a moderator. He doesn't build the website, doesn't own it, doesn't make money from it. He's (voluntarily) there to step in when people start behaving like bell ends.

well you as a forum official should be giving some serious thought into why people are not using the new classifieds.

I have helped provide the constructive feedback but saying “It’s shite” wasn’t worth feeding back.

bell end i may be, but it dont change the reason the classifieds is not as good as before

I wasn't saying you were being a bell end, I was just saying he's a moderator and that's basically all that moderators are responsible for 🙂

I would also agree the new improved classifieds is garbage, and the wanted section has totally died.
I sell my stuff on ebay mostly for items that are worth a bit more I wait until they have the £1 final fee offer on(one starts tonight at midnight runs all day Sunday) get your frame sold for £500 and pay only £1 to ebay.

never used ebay, but i will be from now on i think.

never used ebay, but i will be from now on i think.

You'll love it, no messing around, no chancers, free to use...

Had more luck with stuff on Pinkbike than here or ebay

never used ebay, but i will be from now on i think.

You’ll love it, no messing around, no chancers, free to use…

tom, you know i dont ever sell to make profit, that i why blokes on here like to buy off me.
i sell good stuff, cheaply.
sometimes i even give it away if i have a good rapport with the buyer.

and theres an army of folk on eBay who will take advantage of that good nature

might even join Pinkbike

Hopefully you won’t find eBay too complicated what with the ability to post pictures, where you are from and only being able to list one item.

But he’s a moderator. He doesn’t build the website, doesn’t own it, doesn’t make money from it. He’s (voluntarily) there to step in when people start behaving like bell ends.

Up to a point, Lord Copper. Both Drac and Cougar have appeared to be advocates for the management at times.

The problem with pink bike, sometimes, is that a sellers idea of "very good condition" etc is about a million miles away from mine. I am a picky bugger though.

Never had that issue on here, people seem a bit more inclined to list stuff walts and all, which I like.👍

I'm upset with the new classifieds as people like Ton don't like it and a steady source of stuff my size with good provenance disappears who knows where

Hi,

I don't mind the new classifieds, the paid items at the top is annoying but I just skip those. I use opera on android and have no issues, including valuing my privacy.

I've asked for an option to view items listed in the last x days to get round that. Still waiting. I also asked for ads to change colour once viewed, still waiting.

The problem I do have is that people like Ton will stop using it. I too have bought some great things from ton over the years and I'll pay him by PayPal gift as he's a trusted seller.

As people stop selling, people will stop viewing. Then items will sell better on other sites and the vicious circle continues.

I believe everyone on here wants it to be a success. The mods think people are complaining just for the sake of it but a lot of people on here have seen other forums die which is why they ended up at stw and they don't want it to go the same way. They obviously care about the future of the site.

We need to find a balance between stw making it a viable product with profit and the users being satisfied with the service they get.

For me, communication is the key. You keep quoting stats at us. Why not have an official vote on the new classifieds and get some honest feedback with with stats you can publish. It worked with brexit 😂

Perhaps have a monthly vote on what change the users want to see next and then add an update to let us know how it's going. Even if it says, "nothing done yet"

Having read this through it occurs to me that Drac is the one behaving like a bell end........

I’ve asked for an option to view items listed in the last x days to get round that. Still waiting. I also asked for ads to change colour once viewed, still waiting.

Of course you’re still waiting. There’s no software company in the world which will simply take requests from one user and implement them. Even if Singletrack had the resources to do that, they’d find one of your suggestions would conflict with one or more that I’d make, so where would they go then?

A good software producer will listen to its users, but it will implement changes in a considered manner and with knowledge of good user experience principles, not jump at every feature request that falls into the inbox.

The mods think people are complaining just for the sake of it but a lot of people on here have seen other forums die which is why they ended up at stw and they don’t want it to go the same way. They obviously care about the future of the site.

We don't there are those providing feedback there's others just saying it's shite and expecting us to know why they don't like. The new Classifieds was introduced to help provide income to stop this place from going under. So far it has provided some income which will hopefully help that.

Then there is those who just post less useful feedback such as

Having read this through it occurs to me that Drac is the one behaving like a bell end…….

And about a month ago chips turned up and listened, took notes and.........

Nobody knows what's been considered an issue, what's being looked at and what might change.

There are heaps of online survey tools available to get opinions and views from people. Then stw might get some better I fo from the users.

It's about the same as the issues in the main forum and its obvious to see why people are pissed off - which comes through in the comments.

Then there is those who just post less useful feedback

and obviously your snarky replies are always helpful.

Ebay and Pink Bike. I can't see the classified posts with an ad blocker running and cancelling my sub means the site's unusable without one. Meh.

Poopscoop sed> The problem with pink bike, sometimes, is that a sellers idea of “very good condition” etc is about a million miles away from mine

Watching a couple of PinkBike crash compilation videos last evening I did wonder how many of the crunched bikes end up on PB classifieds.

The new Classifieds was introduced to help provide income to stop this place from going under

Lets start a sweepstake, this place or Hmv first?

I'm astounded Drac doesn't ban more posters.

But he’s a moderator. He doesn’t build the website, doesn’t own it, doesn’t make money from it. He’s (voluntarily) there to step in when people start behaving like bell ends

But as said, some think he makes the rules, creates the website and decides who, what, where and when.

If I were Drac I'd have bailed from the Mod role years ago, so if you are unreasonably rude to him

But as said, some think he makes the rules, creates the website and decides who, what, where and when.

I think in the absence of any of the actual employees and owners Drac and Cogaurs opinions appear to be the official opinions a lot of the time.
Perhaps the mods should take the same approach to the owners on these threads to save themselves being wound up. There is a long enough line of people ready to shout whingers, freeloader etc. at people for not praising the new site/classifieds.

But as said, some think he makes the rules, creates the website and decides who, what, where and when.

If I were Drac I’d have bailed from the Mod role years ago, so if you are unreasonably rude to him

It becomes white noise and it literally is a handful of people.