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[Closed] Where have all the singlespeeds gone?!?

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A friend of mine has asked me to help her find a replacement for her Genesis Day One and the only available choice seems to be...a new Genesis Day One!! What's happened to all the drop bar singlespeeds?!?! Charge have gone bust, all the Arkose's now have gears, Kona no longer have one in their line up, On One/Planet X don't have any at all. What's happened?!?


 
Posted : 08/09/2019 4:28 pm
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But even if any of those other bikes were available, why look any further than the genesis?


 
Posted : 08/09/2019 4:34 pm
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But even if any of those other bikes were available, why look any further than the genesis?

Sounds like she fancies a change


 
Posted : 08/09/2019 4:37 pm
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Is it for commuting? Spesh langster and Dolan pre-cursa are both good there and are a different style if she wants a change - faster, but less versatile than the day one.


 
Posted : 08/09/2019 5:15 pm
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The All City Nature Boy might fit the bill, but yeah, a definate dearth of choice. ☹️
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Posted : 08/09/2019 5:19 pm
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I found the same lack of choice.

Went for a Trek Crockett frameset and build it up from that.


 
Posted : 08/09/2019 5:24 pm
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The cowboys must have taken them. 😉

Too small a profit margin without fancy drivetrain and we aren't prepared to pay the price brands want to sell these basic bikes for?


 
Posted : 08/09/2019 5:36 pm
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Pinnacle monzonite? Fairly basic but cheap enough to throw some upgrades on.


 
Posted : 08/09/2019 5:41 pm
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I found alot more choice by searching for an Alfine bike then just replace rear wheel and sell old wheel and shifter


 
Posted : 08/09/2019 5:46 pm
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I'll do all the washing, you go have a beer.
Theres the BLB classic, though not sure the quality's all-that.
Brother Cycles All-Day looks nice though.


 
Posted : 08/09/2019 6:15 pm
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sl2000 makes two good points! That Pearson is lovely.


 
Posted : 08/09/2019 6:30 pm
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Genesis also do the rather lovely Flyer.

https://www.genesisbikes.co.uk/bike/flyer


 
Posted : 08/09/2019 6:38 pm
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Curtis do a nice single speed frame.


 
Posted : 08/09/2019 6:42 pm
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The CS is not just any cheap fixie bike.....

It's not even an M&S cheap fixie bike.

Bloke at work had one that broke really quickly. Think it was the chain stay, real nasty gas pipe shit.


 
Posted : 08/09/2019 9:25 pm
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Surly


 
Posted : 08/09/2019 11:22 pm
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The Dolan Pre Cursa is mostly a track bike. The Dolan Fxe is probably more practical for on road.

Or Mango Bikes have a few cheap ones, not sure if they are any good.


 
Posted : 09/09/2019 12:07 am
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I thought Mango had gone bust!


 
Posted : 09/09/2019 7:34 am
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probably over budget but a cotic roadrat frame has sliding dropouts


 
Posted : 09/09/2019 8:51 am
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I'm in Oz at the moment and struggling to resist buying one of these. It has everything I want in a general purpose road/gravel single speed.

http://www.malvernstar.com.au/bikes/oppy-s-heritage-bike/


 
Posted : 09/09/2019 9:31 am
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They do seem to have disappeared but there probably wasn't the long term demand. Bit like other niches (fat bikes etc.).

Surly do some that are very good.

As a not very stealthy add I have a freshly painted pompetamine for sale in Newcastle. Size large though - good for me at 5'10".


 
Posted : 09/09/2019 9:32 am
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I thought Mango had gone bust!

Think they did, but were bought by someone else. So they have kept the brand and mostly the same bikes. And maybe a few new models.


 
Posted : 09/09/2019 9:48 am
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Dolan.


 
Posted : 09/09/2019 9:52 am
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The other problem with single speeds is they are sticky. Owners tend to hang on to them forever so there's not the same turnover.

But if Brant Brant Brant persuades On-One to bring back a new Pompino just like that Malvern Star I just posted then he has a guaranteed market of at least one - that's if I don't succumb to temptation while in Oz. 🙂


 
Posted : 09/09/2019 10:06 am
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But if Brant Brant Brant persuades On-One to bring back a new Pompino just like that Malvern Star I just posted then he has a guaranteed market of at least one – that’s if I don’t succumb to temptation while in Oz. 🙂

We did a half hour facebook live design meeting from the pub last night on the Planet X Facebook page discussing plans for SS and some other new stuff. It's on. We're just back with the designer who helped with the first ever on-one inbred frames, and we've some big (tall?) plans too 🙂

There's also a discount code for an extra 5% off the new bikes we're launching today in the video too.


 
Posted : 09/09/2019 10:22 am
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I'd make the argument that a SS conversion on a vertical dropout frame with a BB mounted guide as a tensioner is easier to use than sliding dropouts if you need to fix a puncture or you want to swap wheels with different gearing.

A Switchback with a BB guide as a tensioner, yesterday-

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Posted : 09/09/2019 10:26 am
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A chain tensioner doesn't work for fixed gear.

A new Pompino/Pompetamine would be great. ie fixed gear with disc brakes. And maybe a bit more tyre clearance.


 
Posted : 09/09/2019 11:32 am
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I’d make the argument that a SS conversion on a vertical dropout frame with a BB mounted guide as a tensioner is easier to use than sliding dropouts if you need to fix a puncture or you want to swap wheels with different gearing

How do you keep the chain tension nice and tight when you have to take the crank + chainring off to tighten it, and also loose enough to take the wheel out to fix a puncture? Is the tensioner on a spring?


 
Posted : 09/09/2019 6:15 pm
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I think the 1 x revolution has contributed to fewer around. In the old 3 x days, singlespeed was an antidote, less so these days. Plus every Tom, Dick and Harry now sports facial hair and tramp stamps, so there's a reduced standout "look at me" factor.


 
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How do you keep the chain tension nice and tight 

I use a releasable cable tie. For many that may be a bodge too far, but it works fine


 
Posted : 09/09/2019 8:17 pm
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I've used an iscg mounted guide, and in the end just ran the bolts tight enough so it didn't move about by itself, but I could just tap it to increase/reduce tension as required. Vertical dropouts - the wheel just drops in and out as normal.
Less faff than a rear tensioner IME.


 
Posted : 09/09/2019 10:55 pm
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I'm selling a Specialised singlecross Tricross 52cm if that's the right size.

I think three things stopped me from singlespeeding (as much):

1) Parenthood and reduced fitness / time
2) Clutch mechs and single chainring meant less weight and noise on geared
3) 32:16 on a 26" bike was fine for me, but I struggled to get the right ratio on a 29er

That said, Trek Stache / Crocket have very nice SSable dropouts, and I love the ones on mine a great deal, and swap between SS and Geared every now and then.


 
Posted : 09/09/2019 11:21 pm
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Vertical dropouts – the wheel just drops in and out as normal.

This makes life so much easier when you have to pull the wheels off when you carry the bike in a small car.

No faffing with getting the wheel alignment right and then having to fine tune the brakes every time you take the wheel off.

I prefer an EBB over sliding dropouts because then the mudguard can follow the line of the wheel instead of setting it up with a big gap at the back to allow for fore and aft wheel adjustment.

Trailrider Jim

Plus every Tom, Dick and Harry now sports facial hair and tramp stamps, so there’s a reduced standout “look at me” factor.

I never understood why some people consider single speed as a fashion. It's just plain commonsense if you don't like highly consumable components.


 
Posted : 09/09/2019 11:30 pm
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Don't forget that any road frame that is BB30 or PF30 BB can be made into a singlespeed, there are adaptors that turn BB30 into eccentric bottom bracket for threaded BB.

I used my old Specialized Roubaix for commuting singlespeed, it was 7.6kg with disc brakes and was great


 
Posted : 10/09/2019 1:36 pm
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Ribble Urban 725

Not drop bar but rather lovely imo


 
Posted : 10/09/2019 2:17 pm
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The get-a-hub-gear-and-sell-the-wheel route could be a good one.

Arkose Alfine, £850 with hydraulic disks and good spec otherwise
https://www.evanscycles.com/pinnacle-arkose-a8-2020-adventure-road-bike-EV339952

Something like that Ribble single speed, as nice as it is, is £700 with one caliper brake and a fixed gear.


 
Posted : 10/09/2019 3:03 pm
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Charge have gone bust, all the Arkose’s now have gears, Kona no longer have one in their line up, On One/Planet X don’t have any at all. What’s happened?!?

hint, hint....


 
Posted : 10/09/2019 3:18 pm

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