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Like Rockinghorse shit. Considering for years its sold for £899 you'd think there would be shedloads out there meaning a fair number for sale no matter how popular or not they are.
Only two frames out there that I can see and I aint paying through the nose for a 4yr old frame etc.
What gives?!! 😆
Apart from the latest one (only on sale for a few months), surely it's too steep for you?
I had a 04 Heckler for two years- it felt 'right' i.e. all the angles felt good together. Whereas the only frame I didn't like fullstop was a Fivespot (old one)- felt tall/steep hence the angleset/bushes 😉
If it felt "right" why did you sell it?
I have a secondhand Heckler, i'm keeping it because it's [b]awesome[/b]
What's wrong with the Commencal then? Or am I two bikes behind already...
If it felt "right" why did you sell it?
You know who you are talking to, right?
I've had similar problems finding a frame. I think the general cost of new bikes means people now hold onto stuff longer & expect a higher price when selling on. Coupled with the internet scaremongering over wheel sizes I think people are either waiting it out or selling full bikes, frame only sales seem to be a rarity
what portlyone said 🙂
Odd because I bought the Hecker off Hora and absolutely hated it. Literally lasted 2 rides before I sold it!
Old hat now Mark - you'll be wanting offset bushings and all sorts...
If it felt "right" why did you sell it?
I had it for two years and replaced it with a Blur4X. The idea is to keep stepping up if possible.
I can't get my head round a 20inch seat tube. A large should be 18.5/19 as a very max IMO.What's wrong with the Commencal then?
So where are they all? Theres a few 'popular' frame/etc that you think sell well but bloody rare when you do a search.
Even the Giant Trance - not many of those knocking about for sale either.
I've a couple of frames to sell (not Hecklers) but in all honesty the latest ebay auction haven't amounted to much, so I'd prefer to hang on to them instead of giving them away for nothing.
It's summer. Less bikes around for sale and if they do come up they tend to go quickly.
Wait until winter and there will be more choice.
You been on a skills day yet hora? If not book one up, might help your constant quest for the holy grail bike that doesn't exist 😉
My Meta 5 had same effective standover as my Heckler, both large. Just an excuse to say you want another frame.
If it helps Hora there will be one going up on the classifieds bored about 2 to 3 weeks after you manage to find one.
sold mine gutted 🙁
hora - MemberI can't get my head round a 20inch seat tube.
Try facing the other way
We were looking for a SC frame for the missus but found nowt. View of the local lbs workshop manager was that SC owners tend to buy for keeps.
So how much is to much? You asked for pictures of my mates with a new style rear swing arm and year old paint job by argos and a Chris king headset!! You didn't even come back or make an offer he could consider???
Which from dealing with you before is about the norm!
many people keep bikes they like and concentrate on riding them rather than buying and selling them
😀
They do seem really rare second hand. I tried a few years ago to find a Heckler frame. They were fewa and far between and going for 700+ on ebay. In the end I gave up and got a Blur LT as there were more of them around
Look at a Cannondale Prophet instead? Very similar idea...
Hora - what about replying to my road bike email?
the Giant Trance - not many of those knocking about for sale either.
Got one that I keep forgetting to sell. Cheap.
But it's an XL, and IIRC you're 6'+ and you don't like bikes that fit properly*, so probably not interested? 😉
*see me rolling, I be trolling... 😉
Hora - what about replying to my road bike email?
You came back with 350- I asked a roadie bud' and he said on the kit etc I shouldn't go higher than £310.
I am interested but Its higher than I can go. The shock is also from 2009? (i.e. 4yrs old).batman11
IA- I'm not riding a gate 😉 😆
Can I have first dibs when you sell it on hora?
There's one in the classifieds now. Large as well...
All down to the financial crisis - obviously - same story with decent second hand cars.
Can I have first dibs when you sell it on hora?
Sure- you know it'll be the same price that I paid? 😀
federalski- thats the 09 one I mentioned above thats been powdercoated.
I'll go back to sleep I think... 🙂
nice of you to reply to my email with that....
btw i am selling a moon on a stick - interested?
+1 for the prophet idea,just built one up 140 travel,five rides in and i'm in love.
You do realise that I'm from Yorkshire, born and bred? I'm more price sensitive/focused than a Arab shopping in a Arabian Bazaar 😉
I'm not sure replying 'thanks but no thanks' to an email would have cost much 😉
If I'm selling someone offers alittle less and I say sorry needs to be 'x' the silence is meant to be deafening. The seller then thinks 'ah, going cold- maybe I should ping him as hes cooling on price'?...
i enquired about one on Pink bike just the other day, nice blue one it was, Large but not long enough for me, guess its still there.
i enquired about one on Pink bike just the other day, nice blue one it was, Large but not long enough for me, guess its still there.
He might have a buyer at full asking price- I'm waiting.
Bargain!!
£450 posted for a refurb with new swingarm & CK headset is a decent enough deal.
The seller then thinks 'ah, going cold- maybe I should ping him as hes cooling on price'?...
Seriously? Its selling a bike, not closing a deal on some mega corp.
As for knowing the difference on a seat tube by an inch, are you really a good enough rider to notice? Just put your seat down a bit for gods sake. You don't half spout some sh1t...
Seriously? Its selling a bike, not closing a deal on some mega corp.
I've always been like this when buying. Selling I tend to be easy going/a soft-touch.
Hora, you are to the classifieds what TJ was to any helmet debate.
I can't get my head round a 20inch seat tube. A large should be 18.5/19 as a very max IMO.
Large was [url= 
]500mm, or 19.68 inches[/url].
You seriously couldn't get on with it because the seat tube was 17 millimeters longer than you felt it should be?
The idea is to keep stepping up if possible
...which is why your'e looking at buying a 4year old bike youv'e previously owned. There was apparently nothing wrong with the Heckler you had so you assumed replacing it would be an upgrade how, exactly? Gawd bless you mark, you take some stick in here but it wouldn't be the same without you.
You seriously couldn't get on with it because the seat tube was 17 millimeters longer than you felt it should be?
You couldn't make it up 😀
My heart beats faster when a Hora "what bike for" thread pops up. 😆
Save me the hassle of stripping my bike down, buying it back because it's 'not how you remembered it' and rebuilding it, by just stuffing £150 in my paypal 😉
Actually, you wouldn't want mine, it's a mere medium with a vetereran coil shock.
I have a Heckler but it's not for sale.
Re- the Commencal, its abit more than the 20inch seat tube. Its also comes down to when you are sat on it you don't feel like you are sit in it/just perched ontop. Not overly bad like some bikes I've had. I guess with most SC's I've had or ridden you feel sat with/in it.
Used to run my suspension so soft on mine, I felt like I was underneath it most of the time 🙂
hora the "sat on" rather than "sat in" is bollox and in your head isn't it, you like many, read far to many reviews and get the journalistic bollox into your head!
The fell you describe tho may be exacerbated by the fact that you persevere with frames that are too small like the desire for a 16" 456 frame!
Get a bike and go see Jedi or similar and learn to ride that bike better - far easier and cheaper than swapping bikes all the time (I am nearly cured and had the same bike for 7 months!!)
Rob, I go through a small flurry of swapsy's on frames but then find a stable one that I'm happy with for a while- i.e. I had a Enduro frame recently for 18mnths upto Feb-time this year.
The issue is you can't really test ride sale/discounted/discontinued frames before you buy them (or unless your mate already rides one) so you have to go on previous reviews/bollocks on the web. I'll find one I like again soon...then get bored after 18months-2yrs 8)
I have some sympathy with Hora (OMG, did I just say that?!!!)
I'm >6'2" with long legs.
I had a 2009 Meta 5 in Large. Standard 350 mm seatpost was too short. Fitted a 410mm one which was fine at min insertion but not surprisingly I felt perched on top of the bike.
When the frame snapped (as they did), I took the opportunity to increase the frame size to XL with the warranty replacement. The bike now felt totally different but was more like a barge, even with a 50mm stem.
I bought a 2011 20" Five and ran both this and the XL Meta 5 back-to-back for a couple of months to see which I prefered.
I found that I could get the Five over/round/through a lot more than I could the Meta 5.
I sold the Meta.
It probably is all in your (and my) head, but I've also had that feeling of bikes not feeling right. I have a large Trance, which I keep meaning to sell. I don't feel any attachment to the bike. However, when I get on it and go for a ride it just feels right (which is why I've never sold it). I've had other bikes that I really wanted to like and set them up so they were just like the Trance (I thought) but they still didn't feel right. Not sure why. All my prejudices should have made them feel great and the Trance feel off, but so far it's always been the other way round dammit.
Who is hora hurting swapping frames?
It's his money, his choice. Not sure why some of you react like you do to him.
WEll its not so much him swapping out frames, just his complaints about stuff not feeling right because he buys stuff waaaay too small for him or just comes out with utter rubbish
Hora - that Orange Blood is not the right frame for you, its too small
2 questions:
1. Over the last 5 years, how many [s]hours[/s] [s]days[/s] [s]Weeks[/s] months have you spent stripping down and rebuilding different bikes?*
2. Over the last 5 years, how many [s]hours[/s] minutes have you spent riding those different bikes?
* for this exercise, we'll exclude the time taken photographing them, putting them on ebay and the classifieds, and all the haggling, bickering , paypal disputes and warranty claims thereafter, which will doubtless add another few months 😉
Not sure why some of you react like you do to him.
you are new here then?
He is hurting no one with his constant quest for the perfect bike and he finds it often enough 😉
Personally i dont get why anyone would swap framse so much- can they not adapt- but each to their own
Two things, modern mountain bikes and parts are a beaut/design that enables them to interface and strip down very very easily.
If you gave me an older mountain bike it'd be more work. Yes removing an old BB isn't hard with the tools but hollowtech is childs play isn't it?
Indexing gears- also soooo easy. If you run a full outer on the rear you can often get away with not bothering resetting at all if the outer is the right length for a new bike. Building/stripping is easy. My 4hour ride tomorrow in the beautiful sunny peaks will be fun Binners 😀
For all those that think 'OMG/bike swapping'. I own one bike. I wont put anything in the two sheds that I own. Nothing. So I'm happy for one bike to live in the house.
On the Trance- I've not ridden one but I can see exactly what you mean. To the word. I look at them and think 'hmmmm/looks like a high end Merida etc' but then you hear rider feedback that both older/newer are supposed to be pretty darn-good.
I thought you kept the bodies in the sheds?
Yes removing an old BB isn't hard with the tools but hollowtech is childs play isn't it?
you inset a tool you turn it the same way - it attaches either side - why is older "harder"
Did you mean removing the cranks from the BB- that requires a £6 tool and an allen key or self extracting bolts
Junkyard - it's no good coming on a hora thread with a "let's apply logic to the situation" attitude.
I find it best just to revel in the absurdity.
[i]I have some sympathy with Hora (OMG, did I just say that?!!!)[/i]
Except you, like me, buys a frame that fits their height/leg-length etc - rather than worrying what it looks like and what other people think.
I wont put anything in the two sheds that I own. Nothing. So I'm happy for one bike to live in the house.
Junkyard - it's no good coming on a hora thread with a "let's apply logic to the situation" attitude.I find it best just to revel in the absurdity.
Sorry what was I thinking of 😳
the Nora Batty socks and boots are oddly alluring 😉
Except you, like me, buys a frame that fits their height/leg-length etc - rather than worrying what it looks like and what other people think.
So with a 33inside leg I should go 'big' then? Christ, sweet Jesus of Nazareth (etc).
If big = large, then yes
But the above was referring to XL that you were commenting against.
That's a shame, I've got a 17" black frame about to go for sale, I think it's a 2011 frame.
Serious?
Yup!
But it's too small.
So he'll take it 😉
Cant remember how to post a piccy
when brand new:-
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I can get a current photo tomorrow but it's in the box my 5 frame came in.
oh an ta for the link to the help... bit stupid me!
One of the early (07/08?) ones? Has the swing arm been replaced? markhoracekuk at yahoo.cooo.m 😀
no mate, it's a 2011 frame