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I didn't get a lot of sleep the weekend just gone. I was busy but it wasn't overly physically demanding. However, this week my morning resting heart rate is 5 to 10 bpm higher. I don't feel unwell so I don't think it's that. I've certainly not been doing enough to be over training.

Any ideas how long it would normally take to come back down to my normal? I'm takingit eeasy while it's elevated but I'm keen to crack on with being active.

So, should I listen to my heart, or listen to my heart rate?


 
Posted : 08/08/2013 8:21 am
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Stop taking your resting heart rate for a few days and if you aren't dead then carry on with life as normal?


 
Posted : 08/08/2013 8:27 am
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stress?


 
Posted : 08/08/2013 8:33 am
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I wouldn't worry, it's probably the lack of sleep. Or you may be on the downslope to viral doom... If you want to become obsessive, check out the ithlete app for smartphones - [url= http://myithlete.com ]http://myithlete.com[/url] - kind of like a more sophisticated version of monitoring RHR. All sorts of stuff impacts on how recovered you are, but sleep is a major recovery thing and lack of it stresses your body out. Or something like that... probably.


 
Posted : 08/08/2013 8:35 am
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Any ideas how long it would normally take to come back down to my normal? I'm takingit eeasy while it's elevated but I'm keen to crack on with being active.

Why can't you anyway?

Stop worrying about something so trivial your HR rises for pretty much endless reasons, worrying about sill things being one of them.

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Posted : 08/08/2013 8:37 am
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My resting heart rate is often higher in the morning and I'm still alive.


 
Posted : 08/08/2013 8:37 am
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Almost certainly a lack of sleep. Blobby Jr can really mess with my sleep and that almost always causes an increase in resting HR in the morning. I don't worry about it too much and just try and get some early nights in.


 
Posted : 08/08/2013 8:38 am
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Wouldn't say I'm worrying about it, just thought I'd pick the brains of some who might know more than me. It's still low, just not as low as it has been. Little point being aware of the information unless I'm going to do something with it.


 
Posted : 08/08/2013 8:43 am
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Really just what are you planning on doing with this information?

This is why some people shouldn't do their own HR, BPs and other home checks. If they spot something a little different they start to worry then start googling or talking to friend's who dad once took his HR and it wsaa little higher than normal 3 day later he was dead.

It's a few beats up it's not even worth considering in the slightest.


 
Posted : 08/08/2013 8:49 am
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Do your normal workouts.

If your legs feel ok and HR is around what you usually beat for that workout then carry on.
Legs feel tired and HR is around what you usually beat, then carry on.
Legs feel ok and HR is higher than what you normally beat then carry on.
Legs feel tired and HR is higher than what you normally beat, then maybe you need a rest day.

This is the guidance I follow. It makes sense to me and has stood me in good stead.


 
Posted : 08/08/2013 8:56 am
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what about when max HR rises?

I had a week or so during the hot spell when my max HR on rides was ~10bpm higher than normal.


 
Posted : 08/08/2013 8:59 am
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It is important information and needs to be looked at in context. If you have been putting in a lot of hard training and getting plenty of rest, for example, then it may be a sign of overtraining and time to back off a little or take a day off. However if you've just had some rubbish nights sleep then it's most likely that. Have a nap!


 
Posted : 08/08/2013 8:59 am
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Fair enough. Thanks for the info. Just thought it was supposed to be a good way of monitoring when you were over doing it. When to ease off big efforts etc. I'm only just learning about such stuff and it appeals to the geek in me. How much of a rise would be significant then?


 
Posted : 08/08/2013 9:00 am
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Most of my workouts are planned, so I'll be aiming to stay in a certain HR Zone on the bike anyway. Are you using a power meter perchance?

Intervals are a completely different matter, as is running. I never seem to be able to stay below Zone 4 on the runs despite my best efforts! Probably because "cycling fit" doesn't mean I'm "running fit".


 
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Fair enough. Thanks for the info. Just thought it was supposed to be a good way of monitoring when you were over doing it. When to ease off big efforts etc. I'm only just learning about such stuff and it appeals to the geek in me. How much of a rise would be significant then?

Lot of it is trial and error and down to the individual. Do a hard workout and see what happens. If it's harder than it should be and you feel sh1t then the rise is probably significant for you. If not then it probably isn't. Measure it, observe what happens, then you can draw your conclusions.


 
Posted : 08/08/2013 10:03 am
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Fair enough. Thanks for the info. Just thought it was supposed to be a good way of monitoring when you were over doing it. When to ease off big efforts etc. I'm only just learning about such stuff and it appeals to the geek in me. How much of a rise would be significant then?

It's quite a crude measure to be fair. If you're a geek, check out ithlete which is a lot more sophisticated. I use it as a training aid mostly because it gives me an objective measure of when I'm not properly recovered - it interesting if you're that way inclined. Short, hard efforts - intervals basically - and high intensity are a lot harder on your system than long, steady stuff, even really long rides, plus there are loads of other contributing factors: quality of sleep, stress, hydration levels etc.

Good at spotting impending viruses and and giving you an idea of where you are when you're on the way back after being ill, but overkill unless you're properly training I think. It's any sort of essential, but it works for me and has changed the way I train. Less inclined to batter myself when the app says I'm half dead...

Sometimes it confirms what I feel, but other times it goes against it, but my experience is that ithlete is generally right. If I feel fine, but have a low score and an amber warning, I generally feel rubbish on the bike and vice versa.


 
Posted : 08/08/2013 10:16 am
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If you really want to get seriously geeky about it get on to TrainingPeaks and use their performance management charts 🙂 (it is actually very good.)


 
Posted : 08/08/2013 10:37 am
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I think its all relative - if you are measuring your heart rate every morning then I guess you are quite fit, regularly exercise and are not overweight?

You don't say but I'm assuming your resting heart rate is around 50-60? If so there is nothing to worry about, even if it went up to 80 then its still perfectly normal and there is nothing to worry about.

Obviously if its over 95 then its starting to become an issue so speak to your Doctor rather than us on here.

If you are pushing yourself too hard, or not sleeping, or worrying about your heart rate, etc, these could all increase your heart rate.

If you are not sleeping well perhaps you are stressed about something and your body's response to stress is to increase your heartrate, although we don't always realise we are stressed and its hard to notice it.= - unless you check your heartrate every morning.... 🙂


 
Posted : 08/08/2013 10:57 am
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do people who have'nt had heart problems (hope you haven't btw) really moniter their heart rate,modern men huh,crazy 🙂


 
Posted : 08/08/2013 11:03 am
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Check your body temperature too. 🙂


 
Posted : 08/08/2013 11:26 am
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When HRMs first came out, one of the things they suggested was that a rise in resting heart rate was a sign of overtraining or viral illness or whatever, and that you should rest until it returned to normal...

...which was the biggest load of nonsense ever written. No one, from pro cyclists to dedicated amateurs ever woke up on the morning of a race and said 'Oh, I'd better not race today' based on a few extra beats.

It's just a number, look at it, write it down if you must, then ignore it and carry on.


 
Posted : 08/08/2013 11:32 am
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Probably why the training manuals usually tell you to pay heed to how your legs feel above all else. HR is meaningless as a metric all on its own.


 
Posted : 08/08/2013 1:49 pm
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Crikey, that's what I'd read and what I was working to.

If rhr is a measure of fitness then I'm doing okay as its typically between 37 and 43. However, this week, it's been up around 55 to 60.

Just seems like a big increase.

And no, there's no history or sign of any heart problems.


 
Posted : 08/08/2013 4:53 pm
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It'll be because you're tired I expect. Happens to me a fair bit. Probably sometimes from over-doing it. But I've usually just carried on. And...I'm still fine.


 
Posted : 08/08/2013 6:25 pm
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So, should I listen to my heart, or listen to my heart rate?


 
Posted : 08/08/2013 7:32 pm
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Check your body temperature too.
Are you checking your stools with a lolly stick? You should be!
What is your normal resting rate, and how old are you?
It sounds like you need to take a couple of days off, go and get drunk or something. Learn to relax! It's the most valuable thing you'll ever learn!


 
Posted : 08/08/2013 7:49 pm
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too much excitement over the weekend?


 
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