[Closed] when idiots attack

I choose a combo.

Jab, right hook, left cross, uppercut...
That sort of thing?

😉

I should add, I was just riding past them, although i had noticed the **** in the hood positioning himself as i approached.

I should also add, last year i had a spanish man break into the apartment bedroom my 1 yr old daughter was in. (330am in gran canaria).

i found his head had a strange magnetic effect with masonry !! he got option B..

You did the right thing carring on and not tackling them, one or all of them could have had knives, the scumbag is probably a big coward on his own, as tempting as it is to stop and smack him one, I would report it in case they have attacked others.

Spanish man would get option B. I can't imagine anyone who would do another option with their child in the room.

With your first lot I'd say A. There are 4 of them, one of you. They are prepared to start a fight with a random therefore they are either, insane, good fighters (4 people are always going to be better than one unless you're Bruce Lee), carrying a weapon or a mixture of all the above. Classic examples of people to avoid fights with.

And E phone the police. Give a description. The one occasion I've reported something like this they were very helpful, turned up quickly etc.

Spanish bloke would get as many Bs as WCA used in the run up to BBB.

They're all up for it when in a group, bet they're not the hard men when on their tod.

Best thing to carry on but next time be prepared
Make sure bikes insured.

Just put an hammer in your camelbak just incase and
if you see them then get it out and lay it across the top
of the handle bars.
Just incase but I take its a normal journey so just maybe chancers
you may not see these again.

i have to agree , never fight a battle if your not sure of the outcome, i did stop and take a look back, but i am aware in doing so any tatical advantage is given up, just wanted to know exactly wot the muppet looked like just in case i see him again. by himself..lol..best bit about spanish bloke was going to the court in maspolamas 4 days later and seeing that he was still wearing the same blood stained clothes, still had a swollen face and brow and he couldn't stand properly, all that and he got banged up to boot

Back in my uni days I was cycling back from the pub on the pavement (BURN HIM!!!!11!) and noticed three neds in the bus shelter. As I went by, one of them stepped forward and poked me in the eye with a long twig.

I was properly blinded for a mo and could only see white flashing lights. Once I'd got my head out of my hands, I asked the guy what the hell he thought he was doing. He laughed and tried to whip my face with the twig, so I stepped forward and belted him (self defence, likesay).

He knelt down and watched lots of blood streaming from his nose (lucky punch?). His mates just stood there watching him and said nothing. I'm not a big guy, or even remotely hard, so I suspect they just thought their mate was a tw@tt of the first order. Got back on my bike and went home....

I prefer option F..

Look really hard so they dont want to have a go in the first place, obviously helps if you are over 6ft tall with a menacing expression. However if it happened to me I'd probably take option A only to avoid a criminal record.

another option arrange for 3 or 4 buddies to be positioned close by and knock **** out of them especially if its dark they wont recognise you, ****ing scumbags

I used to just block, then laugh at them as they got taken away by doormen.

Have never been in the position away from a bust place, if i had been once you've blocked then make the first one count.

Then warn the others to back off..

Always a difficult one to comment on without being there and seeing the others....easiest thing to do is to ride off, but they need an education in not picking on complete strangers......

never one to back away ,but be safe mate , 4 of em ,knock the twot out, and ride like ****

I have had a couple of "near misses" in this sort of situation. What I have taken to doing is carrying my D lock looped over the bars of the bike. That makes it a "weapon of opportunity" to be used in self defence. Still dodgy legally and as I found out to my horror / shame having it there makes you more likely to use it ( I dented a van whos driver road raged me / tried to knock me off the bike with the lock)

Given any sort of choice tho I would always ride on by. Not for fear of knives or any of that - but just to make my life easier.

I have intervened in street / pub fights to prevent someone getting hurt and would do again. But if I can avoid confrontation it I will

hmm, walk away from it mate... I know its tempting to retaliate, but is it worth it? I dont care how good you are at karate, boxing or anything, if someone has a knive, or you are outnumbered, you really havent got much of a chance of getting away with no injury. Even if you did come of better, then you are as likely as they are to recieve a criminal record.

I had a confrontation a while back, and i occasionally still think, i should really have 'taught him a lesson', but we were outnumbered, and the little sh1t was carrying a bottle. So yeah, i'm quite confident i would have still come off better, but i might not have.

Ive dont a fair bit of 'martial arts' training, and every guy who has taught me said it's best to walk away if you can. I haven't regretted doing that yet.

This type of thing happened to me a couple of months ago too.

I knew the fu3kers though and they reconized me when I took the helmet off.So I just faced up, but then made a tactical withdrawl, got back to the house, quick change and grabed 'Bob', my equalizer and went chapping.

Never got them that night but over the next few nights 😆

Fannies, the oldest was 18, youngest 15.

defo best to walk away,then stalk him ,fine him later on a dark street. on the back of a motorbike with pickax handle,jump off break left leg
works for me 😈

With any luck you'll see him on his own and you can give him option B.

But you did do the right thing 4 against 1 is bad odds.

How do you lot get in so many fights? The last fight I was in was at school over 12 years ago.

I don't particularly avoid areas where you might end up in a confrontation, can be quite gobby and obnoxious at times, and whilst 6' tall, i'm hardly a scary prospect...

Just wondering like...

How about a small can of WD40 in your pocket, legal to carry, easily accessible, they won't know what it is when you point it at them.

I've had a pikey swing a plank of wood at me but stop mid swing when I said "How ya doing?" of all things and also some kids jumped a fence to have a pop at us last week in front of their pals. The thing is I am one of the bigger scarier looking members of society and Dave behind was even bigger! Ned's face went from mischief to fear very quick when he got close and realised. I stand up on the pedals and look them right in the eye and this has been enough to get them to back off so far. I quite like a ruck though so I wouldn't be too bothered if they didn't but 4 would be a challenge right enough.
Not sure I'd have duffed up Spanish bloke unless he refused to leave immediately. I'd be more concerned with just getting him out and away from my family.

In any situation like this, I'm forced to ask...."What would Ton do?"

I probably would have given the Spanish guy a whooping, maybe more so if he was Italian thou, i've seen the way they look at women (not to be trusted) It'd probably been far worse for them if they were Welsh thou, as i wouldn't of had a clue what they were on about, which makes me really angry. Have I left anyone out?

Daffy:
In any situation like this, I'm forced to ask...."What would Ton do?"

Im going to take a punt on something violent.

I had a similar incident the other night....

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Forestall them, show them you mean business. As you say, they're cowards and will back down when confronted. I'll always walk away from a fight nowadays rather than get into one if I can.

[i]How do you lot get in so many fights? The last fight I was in was at school over 12 years ago.

I don't particularly avoid areas where you might end up in a confrontation, can be quite gobby and obnoxious at times, and whilst 6' tall, i'm hardly a scary prospect...

Just wondering like... [/i]

Ride over to Leigh, you'll be in a fight within the hour. 😉

I think taking on 4 while stopping your bike getting nicked all at the same time would be a challenge even for Bruce.

Only real option is to ride on, it gives you more options and if you feel strongly enough about it report it latter.

I'm liking the WD40 idea ... think I'd back it up with a lighter though 😉

In a similar situation i would just ride off. You may even get the upper hand on 3 of them but then the fourth nicks your bike or punches you in the back of the head. Neither being pleasant.

Unfortunately some people are just ****s and will always be ****s.

Ride over to Leigh, you'll be in a fight within the hour.

From reading your blog, and remembering what you said about the place on that ride a couple of years back, I can well believe it! This is why I convinced the Mrs to move to Belmont and commute to Wigan, rather than 'this lovely house in Leigh' that she'd seen on the internets...

is this another "what forks for milton keynes?" thread?

[i]Just put an hammer in your camelbak just incase and
if you see them then get it out and lay it across the top
of the handle bars.[/i]

This is a brilliant suggestion. Practical, proportionnate and realistic. 🙂

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water pistol loaded with vinegar/piss/petrol?

good for dogs and chavs?

Just ride away.
Best option.
Plenty of hindsight heroes on here whenever a thread like this appears.
Your one chap against a side of society that knows the system wont back you up if it goes tits up.
That Micheal Eccles was stamped to death yards from my kids School.
It's not a bad area, & these weren't exactly axe murderers; they were pissed up yobs out to give someone going about his business a bit of stick, knowing full well there's little chance of being punished.
Like someone riding his bike, who stops to have-a-go back.
Your worth more than getting into a street brawl whether you'd "kick-ass" or not.
I've had them try & have a go while I was towing the kids trailer FFS!!!

4? well even one guy could strike lucky and daze you regardlessof age.

Ride away, stop a fair distance away-take mobile pic of them and call the police.

Have to stop them from trying it with others.

I take it they were not messing about and tried to knock you off your bike?

Yes it's easy to smack them in but also easy to get a criminal record/retaliation.

Call the local Bobby.

Indeed, I'd ride away also. I had exactly the same thing happen last month when a young girl (12-14?) ran out of a bus shelter and tried to flying-kick me off my bike while I was commuting home. She made a particularly poor attempt at it so I just slowed down and she landed in front of me looking stupid. I just raised an eyebrow and continued on. Fairly sure I could have kicked hell out of her (I am 28 and 6'1 220lbs) but I thought this might be a bit of an over-reaction 😆 . But with hindsight, why would I react differently to a young girl doing it when I'd probably be fairly happy to retalliate against a young lad doing it?

small rattle can in pocket?

Probably less deffensible than WD40, but a whole lot more satifying I'd imagine!

My opinion? Report it to the Police (might nothing happen but they may have had a few reports of violence/threats or muggings in that area).

Also- I'd take a different route home. I also wouldnt pack anything into my backpack or person either.

All the best.

was it near down's barn, toward the canal area by any chance? tall kid with dark indie-hair, about 15?

Get your phone out, take a pic of them ... from a distance ... then you have something to show the rozzers

James O,

it was great holm,its always great holm, dog walkers, burning nicked motot bikes and scooters, even a fruit machine dropped from the H road on to the redway from the top of the underpass bridge, great holm ain't so great, especially between the fire staion and the crownhill crem..

could do with a bit of cleansing or a bloody good nad cull..

Just put an hammer in your camelbak just incase and
if you see them then get it out and lay it across the top
of the handle bars.

Just get some handlebars made out of hammers. Sorted.

Just get some handlebars made out of hammers. Sorted.

Until you try to steer...

I've had a reasonable number of 'incidents' over the years and my behaviour has matured substantially - mainly triggered by one event in a club. in my twenties I was seriously into martial arts used to represent the country and that sort of thing, and quite regularly used to encounter jumped up pillocks (normally the uni rugby team) who liked to try it on.

Used to please me so much to take these guys apart, I viewed it as part of my training....never start it, always finish it type mentality. Then one day one of my good mates (also a top fighter) got glassed full in the face by a guy who he'd had trouble with a few weeks back, the guy just walked up to him, tapped him on the shoulder and glassed him. Needless to say he was/is still pretty messed up.
Kind of sobered me up alot. Now I strongly promote the get away from them at all costs, it really isn't worth it, you just don't know what the consequences might be.

Agree totally with DT78. Its fun putting them in their place and thinking/hoping you might stop them attacking someone else, but...

I used to fight a lot (as I was quite good and sure of myself and wouldn't tolerate anyone trying it on), but hated it and realised people who like fighting were obviously screwed up and just want to hurt someone, and that doesn't always mean in a fair fight.

Came home to me when I lived near Southmead, Bristol and took on a gang on yoofs who attacked me. Not happy with losing to one guy they made sure they discovered where I lived. I had to move out very quickly (luckily it was the end of year at uni) as they were proper ****'s who didn't care who they hurt or how badly.

Tell on 'em.

I haven't had a 'proper' fight since my teens. If you get into a fight in your late 20's/30's you need professional counselling.
You can always talk someone down no matter how crackers they are- you can also spot a hazard developing. Theres even an idiot on this forum who threatens me from time to time.

Theres even an idiot on this forum who threatens me from time to time.

I have no idea why anyone on here would think anything other than sweet nothings of you...

Crikey, you lot live in some sh1t areas! 😉

Not sure what I'd do, it would depend on my mood at the time I guess.

Bombers anyone?

Shoot the ****ers, every single hoodie one of them 😆

ski,

just interested, had to stop due to some scrotes waving burning rags in my path / face at the underpass there a few weeks ago. chavs are common, this was a bit of a suprise though and pissed me off. full of himself but not a serious threat. generally i just keep riding, with a loud laugh if i feel like winding them up )

Got to agree with some of the others on here i havn't had a fight since i was at school 14 i think(did swing a few punchs when i played rugby till i was about 21 but not full on fights)since then have always talked my way out of it or legged it i think the best thing was to ride on and report it

zokes - Member
Just get some handlebars made out of hammers. Sorted.
Until you try to steer...

Who needs to steer when vengeance is your co-pilot!

fatsimon slightly OT- my GF is pregnant....err what were your movements 5months ago?

How about one of these next time OP:

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HHHMMMMM.

WD40, you say?

Petrol in a pistol, was that?

Lighter, eh?

Hammer-bars, yeah?

Batons in bags?

My imagination is conjuring up a new hero for today's world; and all-avenging cyclist, cruising the streets looking to clean 'em up.
Not so much Robert De Niro's Travis Bickle in [i]Taxi Driver[/i], but someone similar [make your nominations, please] in [i]Bike Rider: Forks of Fury[/i].
The steed could be fitted with retractable blades on the hubs, so when the scum step up for some aggro, they get cut down before their immolation.
Oh yes, that's the pitch.

Let's make this mutha!

Even if by some Hollywood style miracle you managed to take them all out with a few well aimed Bruce Lee moves who's to say that they won't be back the next night with a dozen mates all armed to the teeth.

By all means stand up for yourself but resorting to violence unless as a direct means of self defence isn't the answer. Just ride off, safe in the knowledge that you'll arrive back home to your family without having your features rearranged en route.

What is it with chavs though? My commute takes me through parts of Manchester city parks/National Cycle Network etc and some of it is round the back of council estates. Today I was bimbling along minding my own business on my way home and from about 30-40m away there were sudden yells of abuse from a bunch of chavs. I was in no danger, there was a big fence between us but WTF?! WHY? Just mind your own ****ing business you stupid retards, get back to smoking crack and shagging 14yr olds.

Hey welcome back MRNUTT!!!

All you keyboard warriors could do with spending some time in an A&E, or even an Intensive care unit.

Any idea what people look like when they've been stamped on?

Any idea how fast you bleed when you've been stabbed?

No?

Then give over....

who's to say that they won't be back the next night with a dozen mates all armed to the teeth.

Whose to say you are already there the next night in a cross-fire formation armed with claymores's and AK47's to finish off the survivors?

Crikey - you say that but my killer Westie would finish all of them. 🙄