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Afternoon All
looking to teach my self to true wheels and build etc.
what true stands have people had good results with. Not parktools ones I ain’t made of money maybe one day but
something that’s abit cheaper but worked well as a starter.
thanks
Tom
Truing can be done on bike so how many wheels are you realistically ever going to build? I have built around 20 and always just built them using frame/fork. If I knew I was going to build that many then I probably would have bought a truing stand for the first wheel onwards but if I had only ever built a couple and stopped then not so much.
To start with buy the Roger Musson book and build the wooden stand in that. It's absolutely fine to learn with and good enough for longer term usage. I replaced mine with a Park TS2, they can be bought for sensible money if you are prepared to watch eBay.
Ahhh mega I’ll definitely try that book. Is it quite informative in regards to wheel building as well?
I have 1 wheel I wanna build and one I need to true up.
That book is it a download off the wheelpro website ? Not an actual book?
Each to their own and all that. But the outlay of a book plus the faff of building a stand compares pretty poorly to using the bike or the cheapest stand going and sheldon browns website.
Wheel building is not hard. There is no dark magic that must be gleened you just need a set of instructions and the most rudimentary wheelstand.
And be prepared to get to the end of the lacing to find you have a spoke and no hole 🤣
One issue witha fork or bike is its a bit awkward.
I got Roger Musson's book but literally all I've ever used is the lacing guide, and all I've ever used out of <that> is the basic stuff. And that section's actually excellent but other than that I just didn't find it that good, an average youtube video is probably more helpful. YMMV.
Stand, not needed, cable ties and a ruler and do it in the bike. I'm sure it's nice to have a stand, and you'd demand it from a pro but it's an extra thing to get the hang of and cable ties work absolutely fine.
What I do recommend, assuming you're using conventional nipples, is one of these depth adjustable nipple drivers, I have this one and it's IMO the best design I've seen but there's other, cheaper options now which probably also work great. It's not just a time saver, it means that your wheel starts out 9/10ths of the way towards being built and you're just doing the finetuning, whereas if you put the nipples on manually you start out all over the place. Works best with a cordless screwdriver/drill driver.
And a good spoke key of course.
Good point in the depth setting nipple drivers, makes the whole process so much easier (as long as you don't set them too short and realise 3/4 the way around that the nipples no longer turn!)
I also have the Roger Musson ebook and got a park TS2 off eBay.
What makes them so nice is they are a hefty thing and a bit of luxury but tbh every time I use it I’m glad I got it.
The two things that decreased my time or build were the adjustable nipple tool and a TS2. Getting the dish sorted as you are tensioning is trivial with the TS2.
What I do recommend, assuming you're using conventional nipples, is one of these depth adjustable nipple drivers, I have this one and it's IMO the best design I've seen but there's other, cheaper options now which probably also work great. It's not just a time saver, it means that your wheel starts out 9/10ths of the way towards being built and you're just doing the finetuning, whereas if you put the nipples on manually you start out all over the place. Works best with a cordless screwdriver/drill driver.
Oooooow I like that , I’m going to get one of them, didn’t know there was such a thing 🙂
Stand-wise, I built a few on one of those cheapo jobs from ebay, but its not designed for boost or 29 (though i did manage ok). Decided to upgrade so bought one of the Pro ones, was more reasonable than ones like Park and works well
https://www.pro-bikegear.com/uk/tools-maintenance/tools/wheel-truing-stand-tool
Minoura FT1 is very good, it's well built and fits all wheel sizes as well as folding away very small. Decent value as well if you shop around