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My wife recently surprised me by buying and building a set of wheels for me (cool right!).

She used my current hubs but bought new spokes and nipples, so far so good. The felt perfect and ran true but I noticed on my first ride they were not dished so are both offset in my frame. There is no rub from the tyres but will this be a problem. Until I noticed the offset they felt great (upgraded my 23mm internal to 35mm on my Transition Patrol) and after a hard day of riding still run true and feel solid.

Stick with them or buy new spokes and re-build?


 
Posted : 06/08/2017 1:09 pm
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Buy her a dishing tool then send them back under warranty?


 
Posted : 06/08/2017 1:13 pm
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Do they need to be redished so much that you need new spokes? They must be miles out.


 
Posted : 06/08/2017 1:14 pm
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How far are they out of dish? You should be able to do the dishing on the existing spokes if the lengths were calculated correctly.

How much danger money you need when you contact the wheelbuilder with your concerns is another matter. 🙂


 
Posted : 06/08/2017 1:26 pm
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@MartinHutch - Thats the issue, how to bring it up.

@Legend & @oldnpastit – I've checked the spokes and they appear to be the right length. Can we just do it with the same length of spokes, they don't need staggered?

Is there something I can use to calculate the dish needed?

Thanks


 
Posted : 06/08/2017 1:36 pm
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Dishing tool, ideally. Obviously you'll have a fair idea of how far they need to be adjusted just by eye or measuring rim to frame on both sides of the wheel. If it's only a few mm, then you should be able to make small adjustments to the tension of the spokes which will sort it.

Worth having a read of one of the online wheelbuilding guides before undoing all your wife's good work though.


 
Posted : 06/08/2017 1:53 pm
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You don't need a dishing tool, just flip it in the jig.


 
Posted : 06/08/2017 2:09 pm
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If a spoke calculator was used the spokes should be the right length to get it dished correctly. Even if not changing the dishing only needs small adjustments so you'd be unlucky if you can't reuse the spokes.


 
Posted : 06/08/2017 2:14 pm
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No need for a dishing stick - just flip the wheel in the frame / wheel jig to make sure the rim is centred over the hub centreline - shouldn't need to replace the spokes


 
Posted : 06/08/2017 3:36 pm
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I use my sons Lego blocks to get the dish right


 
Posted : 06/08/2017 6:12 pm
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Take them to a shop and get them fixed on the sly and never mention it again.

"These wheels you built, do them again but right this time" won't go down well.

If the dish is miles out it'll take quite a bit of adjustment to get that back then adjust for side-ways and up-and-down wobble again. Almost, but not quite, as bad as just starting again.


 
Posted : 06/08/2017 6:33 pm
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No dishing tool needed. Ijust flip the wheel over in the jig or the frame.

The pointer thingy that you run up against the rim while truing-just leave that there. When you flip the wheel you just want the pointer to be the same distance from the rim.

I use one of those little red straws that you get with wd40 as a pointer as it will bend and not scratch the rim, tape it to the jig/frame.


 
Posted : 06/08/2017 7:10 pm
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I use my sons Lego blocks to get the dish right

me too


 
Posted : 06/08/2017 8:28 pm
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If the spokes are long enough, redishing is easy enough. I had to redish a wheel to fit an old Demo the other day, just wound off one side and back on the other 1/4 turn at a time until it was in the middle. Nae bother.


 
Posted : 06/08/2017 10:08 pm

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