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Its no heavier than any other am bike I've has, despite having more travel
And I've used it for racing dh and done 50k trail centre rides plus a load of enduros
LB carbon rims on my old hope hubs made the biggest difference to the weight/ feel
Everything else is pretty midrange, slx, zee etc,even the bars were on one sale specials
Making it much lighter would get spendy,
Since my last post I now have a new 'enduro' bike, An orbea Rallon in size medium , it weighs 13.6kg (29.92lb) complete with pedals.
Spec:-
Orbea rallon medium
Bos kirk shock
Rockshox pike 160mm rct3 forks
Rockshox reverb post
1 x 10 gears, mix of XT,SLX,oneup stuff
Superstar mag pedals
Shimano XT brakes on 203 mm front, 180mm rear rotor
DTswiss M442 rims on superstar tesla evo hubs, with hans dampf 2.35 & 2.25 tubeless
Renthal carbon bars
Orange Five - 30lbs with Pikes, 2x10, tough tyres, dropper and flat pedals. Rides brilliantly.
Just need to go carbon Kimbers
Some awesome bikes here!
Nicolai ion 16. 31lds without the poverty spec down tube protector.
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Nicolai ion 16. 31lds without the poverty spec down tube protector.
How are you getting an ION 16 to 31lbs??? My Helius AC frame is half a pound lighter than the ION frame and I have lighter brakes, cranks and forks. My bike is more like 32lbs.
That said I have Lakes proof wheels on (Mavic 521's) with Maxxis EXO Minions so maybe that's it?
Only asking because I would love an ION 16 but a bit concerned it would be even heavier than my Helius but if you can get them to that sort of weight it deinitely looks good.
Whyte T129 SCR Works (medium)- 13.4 Kg/ 29.5 Lbs.
Standard build (xx1/pikes/Roam40/reverb) with XT trail pedals.
Whyte claim 13kg but that's excluding pedals, so my weight is inline with claimed. Makes a pleasant difference to other wild estimates from manufacturers.
Hmm I like that ION. A LOT. Loving the mix of raw and black components.
2014 26" Large Orange Alpine.
Zee cranks, pikes, zee brakes and 203mm icetech discs, renthal cockpit, 1x10 with slx stuff. Saint pedals. Specialized dropper with charge spoon. Flow ex with 2.5 exo minion DHF and 2.3 exo HR2. Not a light build but i didn't build it to go uphill.
33lbs.
My whyte G150 works is 31.6 lbs in a size large, I could put silly money carbon rims on but rather loose a bit of wheight myself and I would still be allowed to sleep in the house. Most of my riding mates have carbon bikes which may be a bit lighter but then mines never snapped/cracked unlike some of there's, they may be a bit faster at climbing than me but not downhill. I know which I prefer.
never weighed a bike before but gonna be starting a new build soon so am interested to weigh it as stock then again with my upgrades/changes and compare to my old bike too
what scales do folk use?
Magic ones.
In all serious, it doesn't matter, just take 0.xx (where x is a random number) away from 30lb and then swear blind the scales are accurate.
Getting a Nicolai Ion down to 31lb even with a CCDB air is doable, with good strong components even without carbon wheels (my dt240 with flows weigh 1700g) and proper tyres.
But getting one down to 28.5lb - I just can't see the 2.5lb difference.
ive had digital luggage scales before and theyve never lasted very long. theres a whole host of them on ebay and amazon for around a fiver but reading reviews they dont seem very accurate.
this one looks good value tho??
http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/TOJWDHS/jobsworth-pro-digital-hanging-scale#reviewstab
650b 2012 Banshee Spitfire.
Bathroom scales, (me+bike)-(me) is 31.5 to 32lb. Display wouldn't settle).
I reckon you'd have to really, really try to get one of these down close to 30lb never mind under 30lb.
Still rides well, up and down, works for me. I'd rather lose 2lb or more off the 190lb lump in the saddle.
My Chromag my AM 29er hardtail is 31lbs with Pikes, flows, Chromag finishing kit, SLX/XT, proper 2.5/2.4 Maxxis tyres, reverb.
My HT is 28lbs with fairly light Revs (1700g), light-ish Pacenti rims, no dropper, Renthals etc etc....some extremely optimistic weights being thrown around in this thread!
duir - Member
Nicolai ion 16. 31lds without the poverty spec down tube protector.How are you getting an ION 16 to 31lbs??? My Helius AC frame is half a pound lighter than the ION frame and I have lighter brakes, cranks and forks. My bike is more like 32lbs.
My 26" Ion 16 is a few grams either side of 30lbs depending on tyres
My custom large rallon x30 is bang on 31, bos kirk, pike, i23/pro2 evo (1900g), answer sl 780/apex stem, reverb, shorty/ardent tubeless, slx 1x10, flite, deore braking 200/180mm, electron evo. Going to lose 100g on next saddle, 180g on next cassette and eventually 300g on wheels to get it down to a sensible and tough 29 point something.
Norco Range Carbon 29.3 pounds with CCDB Air and DPA Pikes. Or in actual 21st century speak 13.3kg.
@duir, I've not done anything special to get the bike to 31, and that's with a chain guide Flow Ex Hope V4's & a dropper, I'm running trail Spesh Butcher Perg combo which look pretty ragged after 5 days in Les arcs.
It was weighed by a well respected bike shop as well as my on off scales and subtract method.
Not really one for weighing things. But just been out and weighed a couple for the interest value. Giant Trance 1 large, out of the box with only pedals added 29.5 lbs. Scott Genius LT 185mm travel thing 32lbs without pedals. Scales may or may not be accurate as they have not been calibrated for a couple of years.
The interesting thing is how much heavier to pick up and ride the Scott is when the actual difference is probably 3 lbs.
Remembered this thread and weighed mine last night, 31.6lbs... Alu framed, medium BMC Trailfox 150mm 29er, not light but not bad. It'll lose another 400g or so from the wheels soon and then that'll be pretty much it, most of the kit's already pretty much as light as I want to go.
Does feel the weight compared to the old bike tbh but that's not all bad and the suspensiond design gives it a fairly light-on-the-ground feel, that's more important.
[b]Northwind[/b],
medium BMC Trailfox 150mm 29er
What's your view of this bike/frame? Any good?
Still learning it tbh so not sure. It's a proper monster truck of a thing, the medium's bigger than a lot of largers and of course, it's got a lot of wheel and travel. But it's not cumbersome or anything, just properly a big bike. Takes some getting used to. And it does definitely make some trails less fun, for me- on the first ride at glentress, frinstance, I set a couple of personal bests but I never felt like I was going fast or even really riding it that well. So it's quick but a bit less engaging on easier stuff. On steep or rough stuff it's bloody good, I'm already as quick on it as I was on my 224 and there's more to come once I figure it out, it eats up rocks and that. I want to get it up to the fort and just let it run...
I'm pretty impressed with it, but I've not really got much love for it yet though. TBH I really wanted a Remedy but this was cheap! Evans have new ones at pretty good prices, this one was used but pretty amazing how much bike you get for the money, despite some wonky bits in the build.
jaffejoffer
ive had digital luggage scales before and theyve never lasted very long. theres a whole host of them on ebay and amazon for around a fiver but reading reviews they dont seem very accurate.this one looks good value tho??
http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/TOJWDHS/jobsworth-pro-digital-hanging-scale#reviewstab
I bought these! Thanks for the link they work well.
12.43kg / 27.4 pounds according to those scales.
Santa Cruz Bronson CC with CCDBA CS,
Pikes,
XX1 on Next SL cranks,
XTR brakes and pedals,
Easton carbon bars,
Reverb dropper,
LB 38mm rims on DT Swiss 240s hubs with CX-Ray spokes
HR2 2.3 tyres (tubeless)
SDG Bel Air 2.0 saddle
Banshee Rune 650b + Fox FloatX/Vorsprung Corset
Marz 350NCR forks
Carbon SLK bars 745mm
Thomson 60mm stem
Formula The One
Carbon LB rims/SS ultralight+switch evo hubs/DT comp
XTR crank
SS Delta pedals
Reverb 125mm
Butcher grid/Nevegal X tubeless
ESI Xchunky grips
SLX/XT mech/shifter 1x10
XT cassette, KMC x10 chain
WTB Volt
Hope BB+front chainguide
AB oval 32 chainring
Theres not a lot more I can do to save weight. Its pretty heavy, but very tough.
31.93lb/14.48kg
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