[Closed] whats the best and right thing todo.....

Probably unfashionable, but...

E Ride your existing bike for a bit longer, it's still a bike, regardless of a couple of degrees of head angle.

I don't know your missus, she sounds fab, but you may be pushing your luck if you head home with a new bike or bits when you aren't up straight financially.

Keep what you have until you've paid what you owe back and have settled into your new job properly.

The look at the bike situation again.

It's also winter, wear out your existing kit in the slop, not new stuff.

Angle adjust headset from superstar for cheap fix, maybe not ideal long-term but will keep you going for a bit.

Yeah your all right Ill think of upgrading a bike later on once things settled down. As missus says im lucky to even have a bike and she is good to me keeps me on straight and narrow haha.
Thanks so far

+1 for E, ride the bike you currently have. once you've done your probabtion and wife is happier, get a new bike.

I’m another one to suggest riding what you already have. I can’t see why you couldn't ride anything that you’re likely to want to on it.
If you fancy trying a better fork then go the used route - there are always people getting rid of stuff that they’ve hardly used.
It’s what I do anyway, ‘cos, like most people, I’m not made of money but I like nice bikes/components.

You sure it is the geometry? Is a degree or so going to be that noticeable?
Keep bike and ride it a lot more.

E Ride your existing bike for a bit longer, it’s still a bike, regardless of a couple of degrees of head angle.

This.
At worst get an angleset or change the front tyre (IIRC, a bigger tyre can have a pretty significant impact on HA, and a really grippy one has a massive impact on how hard I can push it.

I ride a HT with a steeper head angle than that. It has no significant impact on how fast I go - I am the limiting factor in how fast or steep I go. Around the segments yesterday I was significantly faster than some FS / Longer Lower Slacker / all the best bits bikes... It is not the bike, it is the rider.

As missus says im lucky to even have a bike

She is right.

So is the not the steep HA then, I like to ride steep techy sections and feel like needs a lil more slack on the front. What about frame size I do can fit my bike fine and in the higher end so I can fit 17.5 which mine is and the 18 size too.

Thanks for replys so far.

Just felt bit fed up and not sure what wanting todo.

Like missus says” be grateful have a bike” so i should shut up and ride the bike haha

Just ride your bike and be happy with life if your missus is happy with that, if you desperately need cash sell the bike and dont buy another one until you can afford it.

Dont take the piss out your missus, go buy her some flowers.

You are possibly also a bit bored/itchy feet so want a new bike?

Sonder transmitter is 148 rear spacing. if your roscoe is 2018/19 it's "141 boost" which means it's 142 but q/r so you'd have to budget to convert/swap hubs too

Lean further back...things were much easier in the old days - you just Rode what 1 bike you had and it did everything...if you needed it 'slacker' for steep descents you leaned further back...back then the rider made the ride, not the bike.
Things change and evolve and improve but the basics are still the same - improve the rider and the ride will get better irrespective of what bike you are on.

I'd go with option E also. I to would want to make myself feel a bit better after all that you have been through, retail/shiny part therapy but it doesn't last - sounds like your missus will. Try and ride what you have and enjoy!

This long, slack, low trend isn’t necessarily the best for steep, techy stuff either, well, not unless speed is the only thing that matters to you.
Just like you can ride extremely steep and techy stuff on a trials m/bike but they’re not long or slack...

That Trek looks brilliant.
Keep it.
Ride it.

Put the bars up higher? If theres enough spacers on top then try that, makes a huge difference to riding steep stuff as it will put your weight back a bit. Or try some 40mm rise bars, those Renthals look like the 10mm rise which is fine for hooning about,for steep i'd try higher

Some weird viewpoints on here. If you like technical stuff then more travel, slacker angles and greater length will make things much more enjoyable and will almost certainly be faster. I don't subscribe to the idea that mincing down technical runs on a bike unsuited to the job is any fun at all.

For me the current crop of enduro bikes are more suited to the sort of terrain that I enjoy riding than anything I've ever owned.

JP

Keep it cheap until you've paid your debts off with the missus and are comfortable in the new job. Really cheap option if you must fettle, try the offset bushes from Burgtec and see what that does that does to the geometry...

jjprestidge

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Some weird viewpoints on here. If you like technical stuff then more travel, slacker angles and greater length will make things much more enjoyable and will almost certainly be faster.

Depend on how you define “technical stuff”, I suppose. I certainly find tight switchbacks (with or without endo turns) easier on my 301 with 66 degree HA and 1170mm WB than on anything longer and slacker that I’ve tried.
Same as some people criticised the HB 160 for being too short - horses for courses, strokes for folks, I guess.

She don't want no scrub. Definitely E, Buy a new bike when you've got some money coming in

jjprestidge

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Some weird viewpoints on here. If you like technical stuff then more travel, slacker angles and greater length will make things much more enjoyable and will almost certainly be faster.

Depend on how you define “technical stuff”, I suppose. I certainly find tight switchbacks (with or without endo turns) easier on my 301 with 66 degree HA and 1170mm WB than on anything longer and slacker that I’ve tried.
Same as some people criticised the HB 160 for being too short – horses for courses, strokes for folks, I guess.

For me technical riding is stuff like the black runs at BPW and equivalent but more natural stuff elsewhere. I'd rather have a slacker head angle and the bike be more stable on 90% of the stuff I ride (steep, rocky, drops, etc) than compromise all of this for the sake of a bit more agility on very tight bends (which don't form much of my riding).

JP

Lean further back

Come on, you know that's wrong...

Option E is my opinion too. Keep what you have.
Maybe get an angleset, or a shorter stem.
Plenty guys on here and out in the real world will tell you, you’re lucky to have a missus who backs you up like that, so don’t take the piss out of her, sort yourself out financially before you buy a new toy.
I’ll repeat, you’re lucky to have a missus who will back you up, she’s a keeper 👍👍
Best of luck mate.

For petes sake just ride the bike you have and stopping fapping over geometry. I get so sick of people thinking a degree or two of head angle will make everything all right. News flash it won’t so if you haven’t got great big wads of cash lying around and you’re stuck with what to do with it just stay with what you have.

Posh bikes are boys toys, not for when you’re skint.

She’s already feeding you and paying your bills, sounds a bit selfish.

First pay back your missus, at least enough that she's happy.

After that, I would either upgrade the fork to something like a 140 mm Revelation, Pike, etc, which you could later use to build up a new bike if you want to go down that route.

Got to agree stick with what you have until you’re stable in your new job (past any probation period) and have paid your other half back. Then maybe treat her to something nice for helping out - a spa day or a nice gift. Then if you still fancy a new bike have a look then.

In terms of your options - the frame swap sounds like the cheapest option as long as most of your bits will swap over. With your fork could you just fit a new airshaft to make it a bit longer travel - to save on cost?

I’ve gone from a short steep hardtail with a 69.5” head angle to one with a 66 degree head angle and longer reach (but nothing ludicrous). It’s definitely better and more stable at steep and rocky stuff - but your change will be less noticeable as your hardtail is more modern than my old one.

Keep the bike.
If you want it slacker fit one of the Superstar slackerizer headsets.

Another voice here for keeping your current bike until your financial situation looks a bit better 🙂

I note that when MBR reviewed the Roscoe they liked it, but said:

Trek has done such a standout job with the build kit on the Roscoe 8 that the only small change we’d make is to fit a shorter stem. And not because there’s anything wrong with the fit when using the stock 60mm stem, but going 10mm shorter would make it a little easier to get your ass back over the rear tyre on the steepest descents

So it might be worth trying a shorter stem to see whether that makes things better for you?

In your position I'd look at fettling with setup (bar roll, control location, spacers under the stem, etc) for free as a first port of call; and maybe look at switching out the bar, stem or headset for relatively small amounts of money after that. I'm certain you can have fun riding the Roscoe another six months while you get your bank balance sorted.

Yh JP this is where I am coming from why feel need lil bit slacker etc, but I think maybe my frame is just about fitting me and should have next size up. Does frame size make much of difference especially when moving body weight about.

Thanks all for your words of wisdom been greatly received not just from me but missus too so alls good.

I think when I can ill change and play around with bar and stem etc first see how it goes.

Yeah I will do some thing nice for missus as soon as I can

Again thanks all for your input.