[Closed] What right to I have to a dry bum? Fox Ranger Pants

Sure you don't just have a sweaty arse?

I do indeed have a sweaty, and also hairy, ass. Thanks Bill.

However the inside of my padded shorts were dry, while the outside was wet (seeping through) and corresponded to the wetness on the outside (and dampness in the inside) of the trouser which was visibly different (that is, the inside and outside looked wet).
It wasn’t a particularly wet day. It would have been puddles and trail spray that wetted the backside of the trousers.

Was out for a very wet ride in the Shire last Saturday (the whole of Minton Batch was like a stream) with a new pair of Ranger 3L pants on. Got to say fairly impressed. The cut was spot on and a normal pair of lycra cycling shorts underneath seemed dry, maybe a bit damp through condensation. Will have to see how they wear.

I know this doesn't help you but so far I'm impressed with the Madison DTEs I bought .£95 is enough to pay but when you get home with a dry bum then it's not so hard to stomach plus that's a fair bit cheaper than Fox .

Just passed along xmas present order for some of those Madison ones (£90 on cycle store + you can sign up for £5 off) but those Fox Ranger do look to be the top of the tree, I'd be disappointed too, if they have leaked.

if you want a chance of dryness, then fit proper mudguards, reality is that most waterproof trousers have that issue around the seams, where you chuck water up, it then goes on the saddle and it just seeps through after a while, same with it filtering down from whatever top you have on.

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I just bought a 3l jacket based on the top performance of some fox wp shorts I have.

No way the shorts would have leaked as you described on the first ride.

I bought a pair a few weeks back. Been dry so far.

I find they can get a bit hot if it's not chucking it down / cold but they shouldn't be leaking...

Try riding in more than just pants. Especially while it's cold.

I have really no idea why mudguards fell from fashion.

Spend hundreds of a jacket and shorts and have a big brown mud stain on the back.

This was dampness was definitely coming from the outside and not sweat from the inside.

Are you sure? You tasted it right?

If I wanted a dry bum I'm pretty sure I'd know where to go.

Spend hundreds of a jacket and shorts and have a big brown mud stain on the back.

I'm more worried about grinding abrasive mud and grit into expensive shorts by sitting on a muddy saddle and pedalling - or wearing a pack and grinding dirt into my shoulders.

Mudguards for me when it's wet.

I think, practically, whatever the blurb, unless they're made from non-breathable (and therefore sweaty) material, you'll always get a bit of seepage.

"breathable" waterproofs are basically a membrane full of tiny holes (glued to a non waterproof face fabric), and the temperature gradient (warmer inside than out) is supposed to allow the water vapour out. On the other hand if you're constantly soaking the outside of the fabric, then mashing the water and fabric between two hard-ish things (saddle, barse), then the water can get pumped through the membrane the wrong way. You get the same issue on membrane lined boots across the toe flex zone.

If I wanted a dry bum I’m pretty sure I’d know where to go.

Here in around 2004, time machine for @BigJohn!

I was thinking Derby indoor velodrome. Not sure it was built in 2004 :o)

Have used Fox Ranger pants for over a year now in terrible conditions and they have been flawless

As above you are mistaking water ingress with your on sweat!!

I’m hoping my new ones hold up in the wet
Mg Race face agents have finally started to leak more often
I’m in two minds whether to return mine for the 34@ instead of 32” as they feel like skinny jeans on me and I don’t particularly have big legs either

Mudguards and thermal tights ftw. Seems very optimistic to expect a pair a trousers to remain dry during high-intensity activity while having water and mud ground into them.

Have a pair of fox defend troo's and have to say I'm pretty impressed with them. Had them about a year now and although they're only DWR the only bit that does get wet is where the holes are for ventilation, which I'm guessing is to be expected. It has to be the worst of scottish weather before I start to get wet in any other area of them. Was thinking of upgrading to the more waterproof version for these occasions.

I have just bought these and used them at Revolution Bike Park yesterday... it wasn't raining but there was a lot of standing water on the trails. I have had the same issue, my arse was soaked by the end of the day, it wasn't sweat as it was the outside of my chamois pad that was wet plus the inside seam of the pants was also wringing! Pretty annoyed as everyone seems to be saying how good they are? Have I got a faulty pair?

My Fox Ranger 3L "water pants" have been excellent.

I do run a rear mudguard for defence in depth, not much gets past it. And why get gritty mud all over expensive trousers/jacket/backpack, back of my helmet, and saddle. Rain cover on the backpack always, then everything that gets muddy are fabrics that hose off easily and dry quickly.

Have I got a faulty pair?

it does sound like it given the number of satisfied owners.

returning them is an inconvenience, but if they don’t keep you dry, you won’t be missing too much.

personally, this is a timely thread as i was pondering getting a pair of these earlier this week. i’d be interested to know the outcome if you do return them.