[Closed] What rear rack?

Yes and yes.

Tubus are much better and I have snapped a blackburn one - panniers full of camping kit offroad.

For a light load it doesn't matter but for heavy loads especially offroad the tubus is the one to go for. You can see the higher quality as soon as you see them. Its also much more stable

I got this one as it was so cheap and was not expecting much but its used every day and has covered hundreds of miles now. Never taken massive weight but goes off road quite often with my pannier on it.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Steel-26-700-mm-cycle-bike-luggage-pannier-rack-/160578696536?pt=UK_sportsleisure_cycling_bikeparts_SR&var=&hash=item6b1b6e99c6#ht_1439wt_952

If you absolutely must have steel (for repairs), then yes, get a Tubus. If not, I've been satisfied with Blackburn (carried luggage and a child). I also like the Topeak racks, and commute with one of these. The slot to take the MTX rack packs is excellent.

I've got a Tubus Logo, it seems nice and solid. I like the design, with the lower rail for panniers. Though the top platform may be a bit too narrow for securely attaching a rackpack.
I've also been looking at Racktime racks - they are the same company as Tubus, but cheaper and made of aluminium.

I have previously snapped a Topeak rack, but that may have been after it was damaged in a crash.

Cool, thanks, It'll not be taking a huge amount of kit, I usually use a number of dry bags tent / cooking, food / clothes
(sleeping bag + liner gets bungee'd to the bars)

I did a long tour over the weekend, as it was just a road 2 dayer I thought I'd get away with a rucksack on my back but found I really suffered with back pain on the longer climbs.

I have an old Blackburn rack, I was going to chuck it on but thought the extra weight of the rack and the short trip length it'd be a better option not too.

I used my Tubus racks on the TransAm, Mme Moonteresse used the old (80's)USA made Jim Blackburn alloy expedition and low rider racks.

Both performed faultlessly. Off road may be a different kettle of fish.

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You can of course get the titanium tubus fly if you are worried about weight

Yeah I looked at that, and the price!

Tubus are really strong. Hd a couple of crashes whilst touring in Africa a few years back. A couple of slightly bent tubes on the front racks from pretty big impacts, but rack still perfectly useable. Excellent bits of kit.

I haven't got vast experience of multiple racks..

but the blackburn expedition that I use to mount a child seat on is tough enough to carry a hefty 40lbs young lad off road with no sign of wear..

"You can of course get the titanium tubus fly if you are worried about weight"

Or perhaps even a Tubus Airy;
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