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We all like a bit of upgradeitus, but what happens when every single part has been upgraded finally and there is no more "up" to go to? Do i just buy another bike and start again?? 😉
yes
Ride it?
You need a new wheel size.
you buy the latest release for each item.
Let's see your spec and see if we can recommend some more upgrades 😀
In my case I have a shed full of bits that were taken off the upgraded bike so add a new frame and I can build a whole 'new' bike.
Then it all starts again.
Its a bit like Trigger's broom innit? You upgrade the frame. Not actually a new bike, just a component...
1 - Ride it, break it, start again
2 - Buy another bike
3 - Spend the money on trips
Pics and specs would be helpful!
What happens when you've actually upgraded EVERYTHING on your bike?
Manufacturer will change standard so that your next upgrade is not compatible with anything you've already bought
Or you go rigid single speed... 😆
Ride it for a week, sell it (lose a fortune) and start again
Like [url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus ]Triggers Broom[/url] you replace the frame
Have been in this situation quite a few times I find it quite cathartic
* new stuff no longer appeals because it's worse than what you've got
* everybody else's bike sucks
* your bike cannot be used as an excuse for failure
Pretty good situation tbh
New frame for the old parts.
Time to go xt11 speed 😀
Do you have Di2 shifting?
stevied
Let's see your spec and see if we can recommend some more upgrades
FRAME: 2013/14 Lapierre Zesty 714 carbon in large ('cause i'm lanky!)
Fork: 650b 160mm Pike RCT3
Headset: Works Components low stack intergrated 1deg slackset
Shock: CCDBair for 162mm rear travel (with Spicy shock shuttle)
Wheels: 26" 2013 Mavic ST
Tyres: Hans Dampfs, Supergravity, TrailStar at both ends
Brakes Front: Shimano Saint 4pots 203mm
Rear: Shimano Saint 4pots 180mm
Bars: 780mm Easton Havoc carbons with ODi lock on grips
Cranks: SRAM xx1
BB: SRAM GPX ceramic
Chain Device: E13 XCX-ST upper
Pedals, Either: Nukeproof electrons (the placcy ones)
OR: XTR trail SPDs
Front chain wheel: SRAM xx1 (34/32/30 options fitted depending on terrain)
Cassette: XTR 10 spd + OneUp 42t extender dinner plate cog
Mech:XTR shadow plus with OneUp Radr cage, and CNC ally ceramic bearing jockies
Chain: XTR 10spd
Seat Post: RS Reverb
Seat: Fizik Gobi XM
Really, i'm just missing some blingy Carbon rims, but so far, i'm not really convinced they make that much difference, and i kinda like the ability to "straighten" a dinged ally rim if necessary?
There's loads of up left on that.. the obvious one would be moving to XX1 cassette which then is an excuse for nice shiny new wheels. Your wheels can be converted to XX1 freehub if you want to eek out the upgradeitis a bit longer.
Then you need shifters and rear mech in either XTR or XX1 flavour. (Ensuring XTR is mechanical, thereby leaving a DI2 upgrade path in 3 months time)
Then a direct mount narrow wide for the XX1 cranks to save a few grams, bonus points for oval.
It's a Zesty, so by the time you've done all that the frame will probably have cracked and then it's new frame time and the process continues! 😉
I'd get some nice flat pedals and ditch those plastic things.
TBH, I'm in the same boat - sorely tempted by a set of carbon wheels, but can't really see the sense in a new set of 26" wheels, but equally not ready to lash out on a new 650b frame either.
Of course, all this means I have a bike I love and I might just spend my money on something sensible.
In my case, upgraded everything besides the mechs, then bought an inbred frame off here, and built up a ss hack with the cast off parts plus a few 2nd hand extras.
Then swapped my 'good' bike frame, (genesis core) for a mk2 Soul. Now just riding it, and bloody love it.
Sold the inbred frame and cranks to a mate, the core frame, stem and bars to another mate, and am now just left with a spare set of alex/shimano 26" wheels and a few odd bits.
Also just built a Scandal 29er up, not that fussed on it at the moment 🙁
I can see the scandal going if our relationship doesn't improve, a cx/gravel bike joining the fleet, and another hack getting built.
BUT I like the soul so much I think I'm going to snap up an orange MK3 if a large comes up to future proof myself. I've got decent 26" wheels, but scared of not being able to get decent straight steerer forks down the line. The MK2 could then become a bit of a hack.........
Did a Triggers Broom with my old SB66c, even going as far as changing the frame (crash replacement, different color scheme), every single component from seatpost clamp to the drive train (XT 2x10-XT 1x10-XX1) was changed over a 12 month period.
When I sold it I realised I had probably spent enough to buy 2 of the same bikes, did I learn my lesson, did I hell.
Wheels: 26
PAH!
I'm not moving to direct mount chain rings because i like being able to change them without taking the cranks off the bike! Currently, it takes me just 2min to pop off (4bolts) the 32 and replace it with the 30 toother, or vise-versa before a ride etc
I can't really see the point in moving to an xx1 cassette, as my XTR one with the range extender pretty much does exactly the same (ok, i 've not got quite as tall a top gear, but it's a big tall 160mm bike, so i'm not exactly going to be setting any on-road speed records and hence no need a tall gear to pedal in)
Also, i want my bike to be completely mechanical, ie no electronics on it, so no Di2, or EI etc for me please 😉
Upgrade your house to live near some decent riding?
I dont understand ... there is always another upgrade.
mrhoppy
Upgrade your house to live near some decent riding?
If we could also move the UKs entire motorsport and automotive industry to North Wales that'd be dandy! 😉
26" wheels, there's your problem right there!
[i]TrailStar at both ends[/i]
faster tyre on the rear
You need a new wheel size.
And there you have the strategy of a mature industry which is facing little future growth after they've inadvertently made everything good enough and cheap enough that there's nothing left we need to upgrade 🙂
OP - remember N+1. There's always a cross bike, gravel bike and turning into a stiffback roadie... although you'll have to forget how to smile if you do that 😉
What would you do if you were talking about your car?
Make something custom for it?
What happens when you've actually upgraded EVERYTHING on your bike?
You spend more time and money getting that Ibiza sorted.
I've run out of reasonable upgrades... all I have left is replacing good stuff with silly expensive stuff that won't make the bike any better, just more expensive to fix/replace!
Almost bought some hope cranks for it, but decided my XTs are just as good in the end.
Buy a van! that's what I did. Once I've bought all the T4 related tat and upgrades for it, and converted it into a stealth camper, I'll have to buy a helicopter or something...
[i]What would you do if you were talking about your car?[/i]
Furry Dice?
What happens when you've actually upgraded EVERYTHING on your bike?
The ironic thing is bar frame and forks absolutely everything on my bike is ridden until its broken.
On STW- I bet there are a fair few riders with multiple Reverb droppers etc etc on more than one bike.
For me- thats madness.
I learned a couple of years ago a Bike is a collection of bits, you might call it by the name of the frame, but really the frame is just the biggest bit, with the biggest logo on the side.
Until 650b came along and made it much harder there was no end to my bikes potential, it's currently all held together by it's 3rd frame.
As above, it's sort of come to a crashing end now - I only tend to replace broken or worn out stuff now - there's nothing new or exciting coming out in 26" spec anymore, so I'm left with buying a new frame / forks and wheels which combined is a pretty expensive proposition - easily £3k if I want all new, which begs the question - why not spend that on a whole new bike - a Capra for example, apart from being a bit small for really tall people (of which I am not) I've never heard a bad word about them - still, 3 grand to replace a bike which is brilliant already, just because I can't upgrade it anymore - nuts - I guess I'll wait till it's truly worn out and dead and hang it on the wall or something.
[i]I bet there are a fair few riders with multiple Reverb droppers etc etc on more than one bike.[/i]
it helps with spontaneous pre-ride bike choices if they're all rideable all the time.
[I currently have a 27.2 KS Lev, a 30.9 Ks Lev and a 31.6 Reverb 😉 I still have to swap the 27.2 between my SS and fat bikes]
I think the only original parts on my 2010 Boardman hardtail are the frame, rear mech and seat post.
I don't ride it enough to justify a new bike so will just keep updating/changing bits as I fancy.
There's just one part I'd like to change across all my main bikes, the front rim on the hardtail. Everything else is good.
So, I decided when I started my XC bike that instead of going all out, I'd see what I can do by fighting the budget and just getting the most out of every pound. And it's a lot of fun, it turns out! I'll end up with a less good bike but it's on track to cost about the same as the wheels in my big bike, so that's a good compromise. It's much the same appeal as drooling over new shinies for the other bikes.
You go and play with that Ibiza in your garage!
I currently have a 27.2 KS Lev, a 30.9 Ks Lev and a 31.6 Reverb I still have to swap the 27.2 between my SS and fat bikes
I have a secondhand seat lever operated KS.
Buy a bike with proper size wheels?
Avalanche cartridge upgrade for the Pike?
[i]I have a secondhand seat lever operated KS. [/i]
I got all my new ones when Superstar were having a clear out of their KS stuff and when wiggle were selling Reverb's off cheap. The 27.2 was second hand.
OT, but this has made me think...
When I got back into biking after a couple of years out after moving to brum I got hold of a 2010 spesh hardrock.
That bike is now a kinesis FF29, has had a stint as carbon and a stint as full suss and I cannot find anything that's the same.
Everything between has been changed one piece at a time (apart from the switch to 29 which had to be frame/forks/wheels at once. End to end I think:
4 Frames
3 cranksets
countless chains and cassettes
4 prs forks
3 wheelsets
4 seatposts
3 saddles
2 dropper seatposts
5 sets bars
3 sets brakes
3 1/2 sets shifters
1 front mech
5 rear mechs
countless tyres&tubes
It's spawned children (built a frame around the spare bits for someone else) and apart from the original forks which were fit for the bin and the first wheelset which went on the spawn bike I could rebuild the original hardrock in it's entirety...
Charger Damper Upgrade with external Hi/Low compression adjustment cart upgrade for the pike.
http://www.tftuned.com/service/81-fast-suspension-forks
Custom one off re-spray. Preferably in garish colours.
Then replace bits to match the new paint job.
mmm, those Pike custom tunes has got me thinking! Would match the CCDBair if it had a few more knobs to play with...... 😉
Anyone ridden one back to back with a std Pike and noticed the difference?


