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All those early 2000s Stumpjumpers and Coilers and so on. They get old, they become obsolete but where do they actually go? Is every MTBer hoarding a couple in their shed?

Shouldn't we be knee deep in old but posh bikes by now?


 
Posted : 16/11/2017 1:40 pm
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There's two old spesh fsr frames in my garage. A 1997 and a 2005 iirc. Both riding fine before being retired. No value I suppose but can't just chuck them


 
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I think the XS and S frames gets bought up to be rebuilt as older kids bikes.

I see the odd 10-15 year old bike come up on eBay / Gumtree now and again, they're usually in great nick because they've not turned a wheel in a decade by more than optimistically priced £1000 for a 2004 Stumpjumper "cost £3k new!" - yeah best of luck with that.


 
Posted : 16/11/2017 1:50 pm
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They end up on eBay for stupid money.


 
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Loads on Pinkbike.
Saw a Super 8 getting dropped off at the tip on Saturday almost shed a tear for it if it was not for the hernia the guy was getting lifting the frame above waist height to get it in the scrap metal skip thing. Reminded me of how overbuilt and heavy they were, was most likely cracked anyway.


 
Posted : 16/11/2017 1:55 pm
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I've wondered the same, you don't even see that many mid or late noughties bikes any more.

Do they get passed on to casual riders and lie neglected in sheds and garages, wheeled out to "do" Llandegla twice a year?


 
Posted : 16/11/2017 2:22 pm
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There's a 29 Anthem in the classifieds for £675. I'd buy that before an oldie.


 
Posted : 16/11/2017 2:27 pm
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Until a couple of years ago my 1997 Marin East Peak was still my only mountain bike. It still works pretty well and I use it pootling around with the kids or sometimes on a commute.


 
Posted : 16/11/2017 2:29 pm
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Still riding my 08 frame and have a 04 to build up once i get the pace fork serviced.

Just not worth selling an old decent bike for peanuts I suspect when if you have the space it's a great back up bike.


 
Posted : 16/11/2017 2:29 pm
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1999 RM Instinct is hanging in my brother's garage.
2006 Yeti 575 frame hanging in mine...
and a 2001 Fisher Sugar (still in use)(not by me).


 
Posted : 16/11/2017 2:34 pm
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IME nutters but them. I sold my oohh say 2005 GT XCR for the BIN price on the bay. I was emailing them saying "look the Avids are ok but if I was hurling it down a mountain these days I'd consider upgrading them". He replies to say "don't worry I'm only riding it to work down the canal".

Who buys a 5 inch travel full Susser to ride to work down a canal.

Nutters. That's who.


 
Posted : 16/11/2017 2:36 pm
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I still have my old enduro six from 2003 and was useing it a lot till last year inc bpw but the linkage is very worn now.

So it’s just sat there waiting for some spare time and money to fix it.

With so little value I guess people just keep them


 
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more pics required


 
Posted : 16/11/2017 2:41 pm
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Swinley!
Seems to be two types of riders there;
1. 2018 Gnarduro riders
2. 2000+ Mtbs in Retro jerseys and kit.


 
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^^^^^^^


 
Posted : 16/11/2017 2:44 pm
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I have just upgraded from a 99 mount vision to a 2007 orange 5.


 
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Swinley!
Seems to be two types of riders there;
1. 2018 Gnarduro riders
2. 2000+ Mtbs in Retro jerseys and kit.

haha, I should have put "Llandgela or Swinley".


 
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I'm slowly (it's a money thing), rebuilding my 2001 Patriot. Love that bike and hope to have it running for the spring.


 
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If anything like mine, they sit in the garage in a bit of a sorry state.

I paid good money for it so don't want to give it away but...

I cant really sell if with a clear conscience as it is several years old so could really use the fork and shock looking at as well as a new drive chain and possibly a few bearings/linkages. Any buyer would want it pretty cheap for this reason but refer to my point 1.


 
Posted : 16/11/2017 3:45 pm
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Got a 2008 Superlight I still use for my local woodlands ride. Forks on the way out and don't know how I'm going to replace them but I'll run it till it gets critical. Other old full sussers I've sold cheaply, usually to kids


 
Posted : 16/11/2017 4:32 pm
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2003 Ellsworth Joker - sat in my shed...


 
Posted : 16/11/2017 4:36 pm
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I've got a 2001 FSR enduro in the loft, a Chumba XCL in the coal shed, a SC nickel in the conservatory and a SC Nomand Mk1 in the shed in frame format.

I should probably got around to selling them when I stopped using them. No I can't be bothered!


 
Posted : 16/11/2017 4:41 pm
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Still got my 05 Stumpy FSR, rode it the other day when my 4 month old Fuel EX was in for new bearings!
Other than the lack of newness (and shitty plastic pedals), it rode bloody well.
Shock and fork never been serviced in all that time either and they both still work well enough...
Been chopper taped from new so it's in amazing condition really


 
Posted : 16/11/2017 4:41 pm
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still have a 99/00 orange patriot. tried selling it years ago but no takers. replaced rear shock with an air, new pivot bearings and a powdercoat and its still in use for the wife/daughter when they want to come out. not worth anything now but dont want to bin it, my first decent bike when i bought it.
it will become man-shed wall art at some point.


 
Posted : 16/11/2017 4:41 pm
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I've got a Spesh 2004 Enduro in the loft with a cracked chainstay weld. [b](If anyone has a set of 2003-2005 chainstays going I'd happily take them off your hands for money!)[/b]
Current main bike is a 2008 Giant Trance (guess where all the bits from the Enduro went?).
Im not much of a bike swapper as you can tell!


 
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Swinley!
Seems to be two types of riders there;
1. 2018 Gnarduro riders
2. 2000+ Mtbs in Retro jerseys and kit.

I can often be seen rattling around swinley on what’s left of my possibly 1999 RFX or other old bike which will almost certainly have Bombers between the age of 1999 and 2008.


 
Posted : 16/11/2017 4:49 pm
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I have a 2003 Orange Sub-5 in my garage, albeit with some shimano brakes, Fifth element coil, and SLX cranks on it. All ready to ride...or sell.


 
Posted : 16/11/2017 4:49 pm
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In the last 2 years I have had the pleasure of performing ground up rebuilds of a 2006 Turner 5 spot, 2005 Kona Coiler (now with modernish 140mm forks and 50mm stem / Renthals it doesn't feel any where near its age)and a 2004 Specialized FSR XC (which were always a bit crap but it rides better now as a colleagues hack).

I get the urge to buy older frames that I coveted back in the day but there are so many and I need to maintain funds for my main bikes.

I love doing the work on mates and families bikes when they purchase a older bargain.


 
Posted : 16/11/2017 4:51 pm
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I've got a 2004 Giant NRS with a buggered bearing, but intend to bring it out of retirement in the spring after a winter of rigid single-speeding.


 
Posted : 16/11/2017 4:52 pm
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I've got a mid 90's parkpre team 925 frame in the garage. Keep threatening to build it but in reality I CBA ....open to offers...


 
Posted : 16/11/2017 4:55 pm
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My 01 Stumpjumper FSR is hanging up in the garage. I've been meaning to give it a tidy up, polish & what not for a while now. It's on the to-do list & then I will try & sneakily hang it on the study (dumping ground) wall.

My mate has got a GT LTS frame on display in his house & I'm pretty sure his brother has got a Sub5 in the garage still.

I figure my FSR frame is worthless, so I'd rather keep hold of it. Good memories riding that bike.


 
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I have a coiler which is kept at my mum and dad's place now. It was too small for me but I paid very little for it, still good fun chucking it down hills. I'll reclaim it for the kids if they get into MTBing.

My non hoarder mate sold his late noughties stumpjumper when he got a newer bike last year I think...


 
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Oh yeah and I keep meaning to sell my old I drive (cracked rear triangle) frame and shock on ebay. It's sat in my parents garage.


 
Posted : 16/11/2017 5:05 pm
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I chucked my late 90's very expensive boutique Foes in the recycling skip cuz it was utter rubbish that didn't deserve to hang on a wall.


 
Posted : 16/11/2017 5:21 pm
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Got a few frames that are sat in the garage gathering dust- 2004 Spesh Enduro, 2004 NRS team edition, 2007 Trance & a 2002 Kona King/Leroi that's cracked. Loved this frame & just can't dump it, even though it's ****ed.

All well used & CBA to sell them as they're worth nothing..

Got a few old h/tails doing exactly the same too


 
Posted : 16/11/2017 5:32 pm
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Isn’t it just the same as what happens to 98% of new full-suss (or hardtail, for that matter) mountain bikes?

They just sit in a shed or garage, gathering dust?


 
Posted : 16/11/2017 5:45 pm
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If anyone wants to clear any space and give me one of these decent 2000s full sussers Id be willing to take one of your hands

No honestly it’s fine, I’m just a charitable guy.


 
Posted : 16/11/2017 5:48 pm
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Mine's (Yeti 5) in the attic waiting for my son to grow a bit more.

He's rather excited about it.


 
Posted : 16/11/2017 5:56 pm
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I have an old LTS frame in the garage, was supposed to send it to someone on here but was too idle to sort a box. If whoever it was is reading this and still wants it let me know, promise I'll send it this time!

Also have my 97 Turner XCE with the down tube and seat tube cut as I used the Turner trade in program against a 2005 5 Spot. This thread has inspired me to make a cosmetic repair and then hang it on the wall in our loft conversion stairwell. The missus will go mental when she sees it but I'm going to mount it too high for her to reach it, megachortz!


 
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2007 Nomad 1..
Handed to my 14 yr old son ( when he was 13)..the way he rides it both up and down makes me wonder if I was a little too hasty as he now beats me up the climbs and is breathing down my neck on the descents once he builds up his stamina to last all day I will be well screwed ..but he loves it!
It also means I get to spend a day with him from time to time and have a good old chat about what is going on ..which under normal circumstances ( Ps4 , mates & working in the kitchen at the local hotel ) doesn't happen as often as I would like.
Always knew it was money well spent 😀


 
Posted : 16/11/2017 6:45 pm
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Put them up for sale at a ridiculous price, then end up keeping them or giving away because of time wasters and tyre kickers 😆

Similar to cars. When selling your's is always worth more than anyone elses, when buying everything is a rip off! That's why there is a healthy trade-in market (cars), you know you are getting tucked up, but you don't have to deal with the worst kind of British morons.

The amount of bikes you see on ebay up for sale at more than they are currently available for brand new 🙄 Brand new it is then 😆


 
Posted : 16/11/2017 6:48 pm
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About to dust off my fully mudguarded 07 anthem to ride in the winter slop and grit. (frequently around swinley ;))


 
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Prettygreenparrot I might be interested in the sub 5 if you want to sell email me at cagliari5@hotmail.co.uk, cheers


 
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If anyone wants to clear any space and give me one of these decent 2000s full sussers Id be willing to take one of your hands
No honestly it’s fine, I’m just a charitable guy.

Me too.
Make a kiteless dwarf happy this Christmas.
🙂


 
Posted : 16/11/2017 8:18 pm
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Occasionally see them for sale but as others have commented some prices, particularly on eBay, are ridiculous.

I built an old FSR (1999) and to be honest it was grim. Old hardtails / rigid I think age ok for certain applications, some older FS you're paying a premium for a heavy useless bike.

Sure there are better examples out there and I do like retro bikes.


 
Posted : 16/11/2017 8:36 pm
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A bit shocked at what people are calling 'old'!

But apart from that, the retrobike site might be useful to folks with old and loved bikes.


 
Posted : 18/11/2017 10:32 am
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My 98 FSR frame is hanging on the wall in the garage as I like the fact it's not a diamond frame. If I could get away with it, it would be hanging on the wall in the house somewhere.


 
Posted : 18/11/2017 10:36 am
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Mint 2008 S-Works Carbon Enduro frame and RP23 shock sat in my shed. Doubt I'll ever do owt with it - maybe hang it on the wall when I get a bigger shed


 
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About to dust off my fully mudguarded 07 anthem to ride in the winter slop and grit. (frequently around swinley ;))

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Pictures!
How long do your bearings last?


 
Posted : 18/11/2017 10:40 am
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Occasionally see them for sale but as others have commented some prices, particularly on eBay, are ridiculous.

Usually the perceived value is way out due to the owners time/money investment in it

I know with my Pitch i'd put it up for £1250+ (Immaculate Fox 36 Van R and DHX RC4, new Zee 1x10, XT 8000's etc) but would probably be lucky to get £750 or maybe £900+ if I split it


 
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I had a Saracen back in 1999 ,it was proper heavy too.
Orange painted frame ,shock that was a sod to adjust n forks that were HEAVY
My son rode it for a while around n to work good 12 mile on muddy welsh lanes ,then my youngest stripped it down and the frame went to the scrapper in the sky.

Hindsight should of kept it as museum piece for the future.

My Giant Anthem is a different beast totally now restored my faith in full sus.


 
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My only MTB now is my 2002 / 2003 Cove Stiffee. It's worthless, completely obsolete in terms of the parts on it so for that reason it's simply not worth trying to sell or even give away. I'd rather keep it for the 2 or 3 times a year I actually go MTBing!

You get a funny mix of bikes in the Peak District (my local trails) as well, either seems to be 1, maybe 2 year old bikes or late 90's / early 00's MTBs. There's a guy I've seen a couple of times riding round on an old Proflex 957.


 
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Swapped my 2007 Marin Rift Zone for 50 lb of beef. A mate wanted a bike that he could ride with his boys and wanted a full suss in order to be cool enough to be seen with them 🙂 It was doing nothing here so a fair exchange was no robbery. I even did it up nicely for him. My Grapil is still immaculate and built with high end stuff so sits there as a spare for when mates satay without a bike, or my other full susser is off the road for some reason. Frame is worthless due to known issues with rear triangle snapping (though mine has been modified so will never break!).


 
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Do they get passed on to casual riders and lie neglected in sheds and garages, wheeled out to "do" Llandegla twice a year?

Guilty as charged m'lud. My 2003 Turner 5 Spot has spent the last 5-6 years in the garage and just gets wheeled out 2-3 times a year round the red at Llandegla. Even if I didn't do my riding on the road these days I'm not sure I could justify changing it as it still rides so well.


 
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It currently has its original D521 rims with hope hubs and an air shock, this pic is in Tennessee. It was nice to fly without being terrified the baggage handlers would squash it.

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My 06 Spec Enduro was retired some years back purely as I went off MTBing. The shock is duff and its not worth buying a new one otherwise I would use it. It is still more capable than me. Anyone got a very cheap shock?


 
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I've an old Marin Quake in the shed along with a PRST1 (I'll never sell or get rid of) and a RM Element frame. Tried selling the RM and the Marin but zero interest so to free up some space I'm seriously considering cutting the Head stock off both of them and mounting them on a nice piece of wood and hanging them on the wall.


 
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I've got 1998/9 Saracen Frenzy in the garage as it's just too short for me. About 3.5" of travel was not a lot of pay off for lugging the thing around either. I still rode it for years mind.

I get that full sus frame get outdated more than most things what with the constant design developments but some of the bikes being mentioned here sound pretty damn modern to me!

I've an old Marin Quake in the shed along with a PRST1 (I'll never sell or get rid of) and a RM Element frame. Tried selling the RM and the Marin but zero interest so to free up some space I'm seriously considering cutting the Head stock off both of them and mounting them on a nice piece of wood and hanging them on the wall.

I'd be interested in the Marin [s]for sure[/s] quite possibly.


 
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I've got a 1998 Super 8 under my bed!


 
Posted : 19/11/2017 3:09 am
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My 2005 Mount Vision is my newest mtb. It climbs well, is comfortable, well kitted out and fairly light. Looking at the price of new full suss xc bikes, I'll keep running the Marin until one of us breaks.


 
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Pictures would be nice with your post.
Modern bikes have ended up like sports motorbikes. They are all good and all look the same.


 
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"Whyte PRST4 2004, Original Spec"

I used to love these ... and certainly addresses your concerns about generic looks zippyK

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F272928198990


 
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I've got one of them. A 2005 Turner 6 Pack, Fox 36van, both ends with Avalanche upgrades, Hope wheels and V2 brakes, XTR drive, KS Lev dropper, Easton stem and carbon bars. It's all in perfect working order.

Can't imagine I'd be offered much more than £500 as a complete bike, so instead, it's a back up bike that fits both me and the wife (it's a medium).


 
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Looks like I'm putting an add in the classifieds then!


 
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Wheeee! Just dragged the old and dusty Turner in from the garage. Got the "where are you going with that" question as I went through the kitchen but after offering it up in the stairwell she wasn't mad keen but gave permission for it to be installed regardless, bless her. Time to break out the autosol!


 
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Which reminds me, what's the best method of wall hanging a frame that doesn't look cheap and horrible?


 
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what's the best method of wall hanging a frame that doesn't look cheap and horrible?

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Posted : 19/11/2017 7:40 pm
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[i]what's the best method of wall hanging a frame that doesn't look like a beardy hipster's loft apartment?[/i]


 
Posted : 19/11/2017 8:03 pm
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Just ask "What would Guy Martin do?".


 
Posted : 19/11/2017 8:19 pm
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Cleaning my 2014 Anthem yesterday i noticed that the copter tape on the chainstay bubbling. I thought “i must replace that” but then I thought “whats the point, no one will want this well ridden old school geo 29er in a years time, who cares about some heel rub...”

I’ll hope to sell it cheaply.


 
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I switched to mostly road riding 8 years ago and sold my 2003 S-works Enduro and titanium hardtail as figured cash in on them whilst I still can and had 8 bikes at the time taking up too much space. I kept my Soul for the odd outing.

Fast forward to now and I'm keep to mtb more, so I have the Soul but the Enduro was a great bike so wish I'd kept it, thinking about getting an Anthem which I guess will be a bit faster but no more fun.

Old/good bikes deserve to be ridden so get them sold for whatever they can go for!


 
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