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so friend crashed the other week and cut open his arm. Realised that I didn't have anything (except a foil blanket and a whistle). I had one left over tissue to do some basic cleaning up of the wound, however he ended up in A&E having stitches. it got me thinking what first aid kit should I be carrying for day rides/when we go to the Alps? I know I don't know needles and complex stuff, but there seem to be so many out there? What stuff do you carry? I was thinking a smallish one with some gauzes, tape to cover a wound, sling? That would be sufficient? what do you reckon? Thanks guys.


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 7:22 pm
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A couple of largish wound dressings, saline solution in squirty tubes, cling film for dressings and immobilising broken bits, melonin and micropore.
With that lot you can treat bleeding stuff, clean stuff and immobilise stuff. That's first aid.


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 7:28 pm
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This will pretty much cover it then?

http://www.cotswoldoutdoor.com/index.cfm/product/lifesystems-trek-first-aid-kit/fuseaction/products.detail/code/B4110026


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 7:35 pm
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I've got one of those. Bumped it up a bit with some bigger dressings, steri strips and piriton tablets


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 7:41 pm
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I'd add into that some eye wash amphule, a couple of large triangular bandages, a spare battery for your mobile and a bundle of zip ties


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 7:41 pm
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Oh and some steri strips and a needle and thread.


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 7:42 pm
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Needle I'm not doing any DIY elbow or knee wounds 😉 Right I shall get it going..soon it'll be as big as my Camelbak!!


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 7:50 pm
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Superglue & duct tape in there somewhere.


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 7:53 pm
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triangular bandages, Tampons and some tape should be enough to stop most bleeding. unless they sever their femoral on a tree or something. for breaks and dislocations, immobilisation is the priority and having a bundle of traingular bangaged and non-stretchy rolled crepe bandages will doo in most cases.


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 7:57 pm
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Oh and some steri strips and a needle and thread.

Excellent advice there 😯


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 7:59 pm
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I wouldn't buy a kit, there is usually loads of stuff you don't need. A big Boots should have all the individual bits you should need. And bung it in a small drybag.
Forgot to add a rescusi-aid...it's something I never want to do but if I must I'd rather not have to rescue breath into someone's mouth without protection. And gloves...keep them at the top so they are the first thing you get to...makes you wear them!
Pencil and paper useful for keeping notes if you are observing an unconcious casualty.

And a practical based first aid course could be a lifesaver! Something like a REC course is more geared to first aid in the wild...


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 7:59 pm
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I'm happy with the giving first aid, being a copper we have enough training, it was more what products as you could end up with loads, ust thining what the key bits are! Thanks guys. Something to get up and running.


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 8:03 pm
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Lister covered what I would take. Would like to add to that an on call Sea King helicopter, very popular first aid item at trail centres.


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 8:03 pm
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Duct tape and a clean hankie. The rest is superfluous.


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 8:10 pm
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Not sure it will fit in my Camelbak though?


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 8:10 pm
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I just carry one of these at all times, not used it yet for 1st aid, the last guy who I thought needed my help got up and was able to run

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Posted : 11/05/2011 8:12 pm
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Yeah don't think I'll be carrying that! What is is a hunting/fishing knife or something!!??


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 8:21 pm
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LOL @ uplink


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 8:23 pm
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Uplink is perhaps being a little bit enthusiastic but he is right.
A sharp pair of scissors or knife (small) is dead handy for turning things into dressings or slings or what ever.
Aspirin, brufen, paracetamol, water sterilizing, glucose tablets maybe worth considering


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 8:36 pm
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My kit contains (from memory)

Mobile phone
Change for payphone
Gloves
6 x Antiseptic wipes
2 x Foil Blankets
Various size wound dressings, ones that inc the bandage
Wound closure strips
Triangular bandage
Crepe bandages
Tape
Scissors
Eye wash
CPR mask
Venom extractor
Insect repellent
Patient assessment form and pencil
Basic instructions on what to do.

+1 for doing a first aid course.


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 8:46 pm
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triangular bandages, Tampons and some tape should be enough to stop most bleeding. unless they sever their femoral on a tree or something.

Better add some Quik-Clot as well just in case then, can never be too prepared... 😆


 
Posted : 12/05/2011 6:33 am
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innertubes are great for making a sling.


 
Posted : 12/05/2011 6:43 am
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Tehre is only a very limited range of injuries where you can actually make a difference. Minor injuries don't stop the ride, major ones need the professionals.

would you have been happy doing a repair on your friend? if so carry the stuff to do it. if not don't.

I carry a fairly comprehensive kit when I do - But I know how to apply sterisrtips and so on. Be vary aware of the legal issues when giving people drugs

Most stuff can be improvised anyway.

My Kit.

A variety of dressings - film and hydrocolloid and conventional
Steristrips,
bandage.
Gauze
Scissors
Immodium
Paracetamol
Ibuprofen
Dihydrocodine
Antihistamines
Sterile needle
Gloves


 
Posted : 12/05/2011 7:08 am
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I use http://www.roughrideguide.co.uk/1st-Aid.html
waterproof pack, so I know it can sit around in the backpack and not be all soggy & useless when I need it.


 
Posted : 12/05/2011 7:27 am
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This is all you need to deal with an injured rider:

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Posted : 12/05/2011 8:32 am
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duct tape, plastic bag


 
Posted : 12/05/2011 8:42 am
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Not a first aider however I carry a lifesaver kit up armoured with extra dressings tampons cling film medical tape saline with a first aid app on my phone.


 
Posted : 12/05/2011 9:18 am
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i have the kit you linked to above. decent sized bag. and a good place to start from. i junked one of the larger bandages and added some tick twisters and extra antiseptic wipes.

think i might get some steri strips though...


 
Posted : 12/05/2011 9:26 am
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Painkillers.


 
Posted : 12/05/2011 9:29 am
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what size packs do you guys use to get everything in ?


 
Posted : 12/05/2011 9:43 am
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Mintsauce I presume you mean what size camelbak? I have a weekend pack that I carry so loads of space for stuff like that along with food, waterproof etc.


 
Posted : 15/05/2011 9:43 am
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Lifesystems are probably the best first aid kit money can buy.


 
Posted : 15/05/2011 9:56 am
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keep an eye out on Aldi/Lidl , they regularly have a reasonable first aid kit in for around a fiver containing,
Sterile dressing
Burn dressing
Elastic bandages
Children's plasters
Plaster strips
Sensitive adhesive bandage
Tweezers
Fingertip plasters
Disinfectant wipes
Disposable gloves
Safety pins
Scissors
Blister plasters
Information booklet
i keep one for the car and another in my back pack.


 
Posted : 15/05/2011 10:10 am
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Oh yeah we have a Lidl I'll keep an eye out, I was thinking I should probably carry one in my car too. Thanks.


 
Posted : 15/05/2011 1:29 pm
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This is pretty good for emergencies. You need a GPS and mobile phone.

You need to set it up well before the ride by sending a responsible person the link (mom, dad, partner for eg) and explaining what it does and why they might be needing it.

If things go horribly wrong out in the hills and you cant move you can text/phone them with the the GPS coordinate and they can use [url= http://itouchmap.com/latlong.html ]this[/url] to pinpoint where you are and send in the troops. Enter the lat long in bit that says "Show Point from Latitude and Longitude"

You might need to reconfigure your GPS to the right position format.

This is assuming most people don't carry proper maps or file a flight plan.


 
Posted : 18/05/2011 6:23 pm
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Venom extractor
😐


 
Posted : 18/05/2011 6:35 pm
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Seriously fellas and ladies, a clean hankie will take the place of every fancy dressing, and duct tape will sort everything else.

A multi tool with a blade, like an Alien, can help with cutting stuff, but otherwise you are carting around things that you just don't need.


 
Posted : 18/05/2011 6:39 pm
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carting around things that you just don't need.

Like a hankie!

Last person I knew that had a hankie was my Gran...

a hankie!?!? 😐 😉 😯


 
Posted : 18/05/2011 6:41 pm
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Yes young man, a hankie.

You can also use it to blow your nose on when you get a bit snotty...


 
Posted : 18/05/2011 6:43 pm
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I'm happy with the giving first aid, being a copper we have enough training....

Pushing someone down the stairs to the cells is "health adjustment" not first aid.


 
Posted : 18/05/2011 6:53 pm
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But then it wouldn't be clean, you've not thought this one through have you?


 
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[i]Pushing someone down the stairs to the cells is "health adjustment" not first aid.[/i]
...that could probably do with a smiley on the end...


 
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[i]But then it wouldn't be clean, you've not thought this one through have you?[/i]

Note the initial use of the word 'clean' with reference to the use of a handkerchief in a first aid situation, then realise that the reference to 'snotty' could refer to an attitude as well as the discharge of mucus.

You should have spent more time listening to your Gran.


 
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Venom extractor 😐

Yeah, bee juice and the like.

Its just a plastic plunger thing.
[url= http://www.anaphylactic.co.uk/catalog/aspivenin-venom-extractor-p-45.html ]one O these[/url]


 
Posted : 18/05/2011 7:16 pm
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Tic tweezers, not ordinary ones.


 
Posted : 18/05/2011 7:25 pm
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Pushing someone down the stairs to the cells is "health adjustment" not first aid.
...that could probably do with a smiley on the end...

Thats a little unfair crikey, you must have a very low opinion of the boys and girls in blue if you think they will require a bit of joking around pointing out to them.


 
Posted : 18/05/2011 8:17 pm

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