[Closed] what are the bestest tyres in the whole wide world?

light. grippy. tubeless. Pick 2. or something

Conti Vert Pros?

my advice would be to get your wow factor from the terrain not bike bits

Farmer Johns
Tioga comp 3's
Dugast Rhino's
Surly Nate's

Sandy? You want cut spikes but you wont be climbing easily with those anytime soon.

As a compromise, I would say some Mountain King II 2.2 Black Chilli in the edition that comes in at 590 grams.

I'm finding the MK II's a good grippy and predictable all round tyre.

Fire XC pro (yellow).

Hmmmmm

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Don't ask much do you!

Problem is grippy is usually/often exclusive from lightweight or fast. There is no perfect tyre for what you describe you are after, everything will be a compromise.

Black Chili Rubber Queens are about as grippy as it gets for a still relatively light tyre, though they're nothing like as fast as a Racing Ralph that you use already. They also don't seal at all well tubeless (too porous, I've tried), so you need to buy the UST version if you want to run them reliably without tubes, and these are 200g or so heavier per tyre so far from lightweight.

You're going to need to decide on your priorities, cos as it is, there is no tyre that does everything that you want it to flawlessly. There are a number that hit 2 or 3 of your criterion pretty well though as long as you're prepared to compromise slightly.

Continental Rubber Queen, Black Chilli 2.2 - Cannoy fault them! 🙂

Asda's

Here we go

http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/category/components/tyres/mountain/product/review-continental-mountain-king-ii-11-44382

Lighter than the Rubber Queens in certain editions as well.

Farmer Johns
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Surly Nate's

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The awsumest tyre in the world ever.

Apart from the Pirelli Sandcross.

Would he not be better with X-Kings if he's used to Ralphs? A bit faster rolling than MKs.

Andy

Fire XC pro (yellow).

The ones that are >100g heavier than Ralphs and no good tubeless...?

I was gonna say Ralphs!

Schwalbe Has Dampf are as grippy as a Rubber Queen, but are tubeless ready. They're an excellent all round tyre for me, but "all round" is inevitably going to be a compromise in one aspect or another.

After today's ride at FoD I am fully converted to the hans dampfs. Awesome tyres.

Schwalbe Nobby Nic Evo. A bit of everything and tubeless ready.

Rocket Rons.

dream on OP...but keep giving the marketing guys a target

Conti Barons
The end

I'd say Xkings. I have race sport and tubless.

The ones that are >100g heavier than Ralphs and no good tubeless...?

Schwalbe Has Dampf are as grippy as a Rubber Queen

i find that hard to believe....not tried the HD, but do run RQ. having poked a nail into a HD and looking at the profile i would be very surprised if they offered the same amount of grip as RQ. maybe out back, but certainly not up front.

have friend running HD and he says his Fat Albert was a grippier front tyre....

I already had in mind:

Nobby Nic
RoRo
Fat Albert
Conti Queen Chilli
HighRoller XC

but was keen to hear your suggestions.
I'm ok with adding some weight over the Ralph's, was considering switching to tubeless ready Ralph's but keep hearing good things about the Nobby's..

With the conti's, whats the main diff between the King/Queen/Baron's?

The Hans Dampf's sound interesting too.

Which Schwalbe best suits me?

King... fast XC
Queen... fat, grippy "freeride"
Baron... mud.

sweet.

well, I want to see how grippy a tyre can be, so think i may plump for some :

chilli queen
RoRo
Fat Albert
Nobby Nic

i'll go with the majority vote!

RQ chilli, imo.... very good tyre. i would buy another if they were tubeless compatible without being UST (very heavy, like DH heavy in UST guise).

have run Fat Alberts for awhile too. also a good tyre.

don't know about NN or RoRo...

so the RQ Chilli's in UST are very heavy? Farily sure i've read they are too pourous to run the standard tyre tubeless? thats a shame, it may count them out for me.

might e a toss up on the Schwalbe's then

Was Nobby nics until i fitted Hans Dampfs,amazing tyre

slimjim78 - Member

Farily sure i've read they are too pourous to run the standard tyre tubeless?

I ran standard ones tubeless- took ages to seal though, so quite a lot of pumping back up mid ride, which was annoying. Got there in the end.

Definately didn't think they came close to being the bestest tyres in the whole wide world, though. Decent, but not exceptional.

Honestly I reckon the tyre combo that the most people would be at least adequately happy with, would be something like a Minion supertacky 2.35 on the front and either another minion or a highroller maxxpro on the back. Neither to my taste but anyone'll be able to make that work, for most things.

For me the best tyres are a 2.35 Maxxis High Roller on the front, in maxxpro or super tacky depending on your needs, and a 2.35 Maxxis Larson TT maxxpro on the back.

Works in all but the muddiest conditions and on all surfaces I have ridden on.

Having said that I am guessing your riding style and type are totally different to mine, but you didn't specify that.

alpin - Member

i find that hard to believe....not tried the HD

I've tried both. And Fat Alberts aren't even in the ball park.

Onza octopus?

There's lots of love for RQ and HD. Sounds like you can't go wrong with either. I am surprised that there's little or no mention of the High Roller 2. I thought that was supposed to be the next big thing. Do people not like them or has no one tried them?

I'm with Jim. Everyone will be very impressed if you can get a pair of these. Probably worth posting in the want ads across the internet!! On a Octopus - rare as hens teeth now reckon.

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Slimjim, there is no doubt the grippiest of the tyres mentioned are the HD/RQ. However they are probably the heaviest/slowest rolling too.

Have a look at nextdaytyres website. It has the weight of all the different varieties of each tyre.

Seeing as you are interested in weight, you probably want tubeless ready, not UST, as they tend to be about 150g heavier for the same tyre. With Conti tyres, the Protection version is TLR, as is the EVO version of any Schwalbe.

I have moved from X-Kings(similar to your current tyre) to Nobby Nics. Three of my mates now run them too. Much better grip, better in mud, and still roll well too.

Just what you are asking for, IMHO.

Maxxis High Roller II xc evo (2.4)

swiched to thease front and rear. they are fantastic, so much more confidence in the corners.

great advice, thanks guys

Nobby Nics. Three of my mates now run them too. Much better grip, better in mud, and still roll well too.
Just what you are asking for, IMHO.

Evo
Evo Snakeskin
Evo UST
Evo PSC
Evo Double defence
Tubeless Ready

which one?.. the mind boggles. CRC has so many to choose from

Try NextDay tyres or Rose for good prices.

Go for Evo, for Tubeless ready, unless you are in a mega rocky area and regularly cut tyres, then it would be Evo Snakeskin.

Im not convinced the ones on CRC are the latest version either.

I keep reading about Nobby on front, Ralph on rear, is this a good solution?

Most importantly, I want to improve my cornering confidence. So the grippiest cornering tyres/combo would be perfect

Still very pleased with my Specialized Clutch SX tyres. No pinch flats yet, though to be fair I ride smooth ish flowy DH/jumpy stuff most of the time but also survived a week in Wales (including Snowdon) with no issues!

Im not convinced the ones on CRC are the latest version either.

i'm losing track in all the blurb about compounds

Most importantly, I want to improve my cornering confidence. So the grippiest cornering tyres/combo would be perfect

Depends on the surface, if it's something the tread can cut into for grip, then you want something like RQ or hands dampf, if its mainly fast rolling hard pack then RR or x-kings.

I love x-kings for a xc race tyre, rolls fantastically well but surprisingly grippy and versatile.

Just been trying a hands dampf this weekend, and prefer it to the RQ that it replaced.

Maxxis Advantage? Grippy and roll well

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These ones.

Ive Not used Ralphs personally, but seeing as they are designed for racing, they won't be a "max grip" tyre. You won't go wrong in uk conditions with 2xNics for general trail riding.

Depends on the surface

I do 75% of my riding at Swinley Forrest, so mainly sandy trails, some muddy rooty sections, and a healthy dose of hardpack.

The rest of my riding is generally around the Surrey Hills, North/South Downs.

You won't go wrong in uk conditions with 2xNics for general trail riding

If you want to improve your cornering there's a good argument for something grippier on the front and something faster that lets go more easily but progressively on the back - you want the front to stick and go where you want and the back to let go slowly when you're on the limit so it's controllable. I'm trying a Rubber Queen / X-King pairing, initial rides are boding well...

Right I've read oodles of tyre threads this morning... and guess what none of them really come to a conclusion, I guess because we all ride differently in different areas!

I'm looking for some all year round tyres for Pennine use (predominantly) I've had NN's previously but wondered if I should change. Looking at it, I probably shouldnt ?

I realised today, and I accept it, but that I hate anyone with a fat bike.

HD's are a great tyre, no doub't about it. I've ended up with a lot of tyres (maxxis larsen, HR, Minions. Scwalbe RR's and NN's) and the HD's stay on the bike for everything front and rear since I tried them. Just make sure you use a much softer compound on the front as the rear bites so hard when weighted heavy it can slightly push the front otherwise.

I'm running a performance rear and pace front, work's ok and drifts F/R together, but if you want a front biased grip balance go trailstar compound, imho.

FWIW, Danny Hart used a HD rear and FA front at Fort William so there maybe ultimately be more front grip from that tyre.

As a compromise, I would say some Mountain King II 2.2 Black Chilli in the edition that comes in at 590 grams.

Have you tried them tubeless?

Got my eye on a set of these after hearing good things.

Nobby Nic.

Get them from bike-discount.de - I paid £55 quid or so for a pair of 2.4"

Get the Evo TLR version.They seated and came up first go with a trackpump on Arch EX rims. Sealed after about five mins shakin'

I use snakeskin 'cos it's rocky where I like to ride.

Pacestar on the rear for rolling speed, Trailstar on the front for grip. Great grip levels at 20 psi (I'm Clydesdale class)