[Closed] What AM/Enduro Frame

Well put together carbon = Well put together alu

Badly put together alu < Well put together carbon

Well put together alu > Badly put together carbon

I've missed all the debates about carbon vs alu vs steel vs ti. It's as if we've all forgotten what bikes are made out of, but only care what size wheels they have.

Nukeproof mega am

Thanks for that rickon, for me I'm not fussed about wheel size as I just want a good frame that can be built up in to a bike I want to get out and ride.

Heisenberg, what would make the nukeproof better than the above frames/fully built bikes?

Heisenberg, what would make the nukeproof better than the above frames/fully built bikes?

He's probably got one.

Sorry for the spam! I've just listed a Mojo HD in the classifieds, they did very well last year

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What you don't read in the press is that the Lifecycle guys (in the pic) have to slacken out their Mojo's. When I compared geometries US designed frames, they tended to have shorter wheelbases and steeper head angles compared to European, except for Spesh and their Enduro which is long, slack but short at the back. The Enduro gets great reviews but is expensive and doesn't have the niche cachet of Evil, Ibis, Intense etc. etc. Personally, I like the Liteville 301....

I am going for the spicy team it's a good price for a carbon frame

Sweeping generalisations follow.

Evil - a very new design so not many reviews and long term reliability unknown; although split Pivot design is known to be good and Evil have been good with warranty in the past.

Intense - alloy frames are known for poor build quality and cracking. Warranty usually good.

Yeti - bearing issues, although Yeti are I believe very good about them.

How about a Nicolai? I've just ordered myself a new one as my last one has been nothing short of brilliant for nearly four years.

@ Ultimateweevil

Have you tried any of these bikes? That'd be the best way to find out which one is best for you.

I also found the covert to be a perfect am enduro frame

I dont think you can really go far wrong with any of the current crop of frames that are aimed at AM/Enduro these days.

I've had an Ibis mojo HD for the last few years, its remarkably good at everything I need it to do,ie XC, trail centres, UK uplift, alps, southern spain uplift.

I've had no problems with the fact that its carbon fibre, its very tough, and fairly light.

Downsides - none as far as I'm concerned ,but the wheelbase isnt as long as a lot of the current 'on trend' enduro bikes, and the head angle is a degree more than the current trend. Both these can be altered by using an angleset, whether you see that as an improvement is down to you. I'm experimenting with a -1.5 degree angleset, and to be honest it doesnt feel hugely different, its a little more stable at speed, but the trade off is the front end washes out easier if you dont keep your weight over it, and the slow speed handling is not as good.

what would make the nukeproof better than the above frames/fully built bikes?

Plenty of bike builds on their FB page

Messiah - which wheel size did you order in your nicolai?

Messiah - which wheel size did you order in your nicolai?

Thanks for the reminder Rik... I'll go update that other thread with my decision!

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Has everyone forgotten about the Nukeproof chainstay snapping epidemic on the first Mega? (I had a Mega without issues BTW) I had a bearing issue on my SB95 and a tiny crack just above the BB. Yeti sorted it without any fuss. The warranty is one of the main reasons I went with Yeti.
Any manufacturer will design out any small flaws and as long as you get a decent warranty, why worry? The SBxx bearing issue can be sorted with more careful cleaning and regular servicing. I like how my bike rides so I take care of the bearing.

Not test ridden any yet. The evil will probably be the hardest to test I'd think given that they're quite a small brand and usually only available in limited numbers.

From what I know of the evil it's essentially a single pivot suspension and having ridden a meta 5 for a couple if years I like the way the single pivot works.

Will try to get test rides on what I can but living where I do the LBS only stock the brand names like trek, spesh and giant and none of these appeal to me whatsoever.

Hadn't considered the ibis or the transition although I very nearly bought their hardtail the transam last year so could be an option. Although I am leaning towards the evil given I've heard some good things about it and I know their customer service is good having spoken to the guy who runs the company via email a few times.

Where abouts are you based? There are a handful of Evil dealers dotted around the country, who may be able to hook you up with a test ride.

Knolly?

Either Endorphin or Warden fit the bill.

I'm based in NE Scotland so it means a fair trip south for a test ride on an Evil.

My biggest problem is lack of any decently stocked shops locally, unless I make a trip to the borders then I'm looking at Santa Cruz, Orange and Trek at GT, but a 6/7 hour round trip in the car for a bike that I'm not "feeling" isn't ideal.

I never even considered a Knolly given I don't think I've ever seen anyone on one up this way!

I do like the Ibis and I may be able to swing a leg over one when I'm up snowboarding in Aviemore later this month as one of the bike shops up that way now have one for demo.

Basecamp Bikes in Grantown on Spey would be a good place to start, as they stock Yeti, amongst others. I'm sure they'd be happy to hook you up with a test ride on a couple of bikes.
I think they also do Turner, so you could look at a Burner while you're at it 😉