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Where I lived in South West London/Surrey, THE setup to have was any old frame, single speed using some high flange hubs with rear flip flop (oddly with 16T both sides) and a 32T chaining, straight (if you had a wealthy family) or straightened (the rest of us) forks, no front brake, and of course the knobbliest tyres you could find! Handlebars were free (some liked straight bars, cowhorns were fairly popular, and some like me preferred what I’ve seen referred to as North Road on Wikipedia.
Must look through mums old albums see if I can’t find a photo.
10spd Raleigh road bike fitted with cow-horn handlebars with multi-coloured insulating tape for grips! And the obligatory tyres worn down to the canvas.
It was an awesome bike for wheelies!
To be honest kids hadn't heard of mountain bikes in the 70's the nearest thing was probably a Grifter! Didn't stop is riding in the local woods though.
Wow, you must have been proper well off...gears? Lol. My boring friend had a Sturmy Archer 3-speed shopping bike mind.
It's coming back to me, we used to call them 'track bikes' and the 'in crowd' had chrome forks...tarts.
Skids and wheelies, those were indeed the days!
Never heard of MTB in the seventies. I had a racer with cowhorns, the gears were junked and chained fix on middle cassette ring.
First mtb came in the late eighties, claud butler incorrectly delivered and never collected so I had it.
Got stolen a year later so guess that was karma but I was hooked by then.
I had a Raleigh Olympus 5 speed, fitted with some free handlebars off a Honda 125 trials bike (!) from Ken Martins motorbike shop. Many a happy time spent razzing around the local field & paths, using old doors on bricks as take off ramps. Plenty of crashes, but at that age (early teens) you just bounce....
Happy days!! 🙂
70s...off road...same as on road
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Raleigh Grifter, I remember it was very stable in the air. Unfortunately the forks parted company with the frame and that's when BMX made sense.
[i]10spd Raleigh road bike fitted with cow-horn handlebars[/i]
this.
like this bike but with gears.
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brakes were always a bit dodgy as the drop bar levers tended to hit the bar before the brakes were full yon.
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Chopper 8)
WTF am I doing wearing a Spurs football T shirt for?
Mine too was an orange raleigh commando like in picture above.
Endless amount of fun round the canal towpaths.
I had a Raleigh Grifter, which got nicked. Then I got a Raleigh Super Bomber - which was pretty mtb'ish. Before bmx took hold..
Raliegh Boxer and Striker
We called them Scramblers back in the late 70's. Mine was a 24" wheeled racer fitted with cowhorn handlebars, just a back brake, 5 speed on the back, fitted with 26" forks for that chopper look, and black 1' 3/8 tyres. We used them for mainly skidding and wheelies + a little dirt road riding up in Pine Forests at Formby, Merseyside.
Wow, that 'Supreme' bike is almost a dead ringer for the stuff we used to ride. We weren't savvy enough to have forks angled forward mind, so it wasn't entirely unheard of to be banging ones pedals into the front wheel on turning! Yeah, and cotterless wasn't out (or certainly rare if it was), so pedal-clank, pedal-clank, pedal-clank was pretty frequent. Grrrr.
pastcaring - the power of Google and '70's cow horn bars'
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It was always 'scrambling' for us too.
ged built that up (out of a brooklyn gansta track) to remind himself of he's 'yoof'
he told me when they were kids, they'd straiten there forks by putting them into a drain cover and just bend them until strait 😯
Good thread!
My scrambler was a Raleigh Hustler (carrying on that fine vehicle naming tradition started by Ford 😀 ) with cowhorns and knobblies. Seem to remember it having translucent green grips which clashed oh so nicely with the purple paint and yellow grpahics!
In the '70s I had a cheap 'n' nasty Lew-ways Apache - bit of a Chopper copy, for scrambling duties, followed by a Raleigh Burner.
Early 70s (well, maybe about 1969) (me in the double-breasted)
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Mid 70s (a Puch?) (the other fella is me mum.)
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Ah yes its all coming back...Cowhorns, Grifter, scrambling.
I did have a full suss in the 70's briefly....It was like a scrambler motorbike without the engine but with pedals. Unfortunately it weighed a ton so my dad sold it in the Manchester Evening news classifieds
10spd Raleigh road bike fitted with cow-horn handlebars
+1.. wanted a raleigh bomber though
i used to rag a small 5 speed racer frame fitted with raliegh shopper wheels round the local woods, too many punctures from unsuitable tyres was the biggest problem.
formby pinewoods great early scrambling in the late 70,s ,my bike handling was much better then !
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. . . in my defence, mine did have chequer flag tape [i]everywhere[/i] 😆 . . . oh, and playing cards in the spokes.
For all but 6 months of the 70's I rode around in me Mam's belly.
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one of these fitted with cowhorns
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a 29er
it is i suppose...............fashionista me 8) 😉
DezB - you owe me another drink because you've just made mine come out of my nose.
Another Raliegh Grifter (although that might have actually been very early 80's?).
Still feel the pain from knees spacking the handlebars due to the stupid SA "slip" gears. Bent the forks on mine almost to the point of snapping. Blame that on 4meters of big air then landing a bike made from depleted uranium.
I had a trike like that and me mum had a Raleigh Twenty. In 1979 I got a Vindec 5 speed racer.
Some of those bikes must have been very uncomfortable and probably a little unmanageable off-road 😯
lol i had the same mamadirt thou i removed the mudguards, light, stand and rack etc. it was a hand me down from my sister. 🙂
Halfords Trackstar with proto soft rubber soled footwear:
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Old racers with cowhorns here. For extra gnarr on the dirt jumps a Grifter back wheel could be fitted. Made wheelies easier.
I remember all sorts of bodges with jubilee clips to keep the sturmy archer hub in 1st gear, and fabricating a brake hanger our of fencing wire for the useless centrepull caliper.
They mainly used to snap at the head/down tube junction, or the top of the forks folded forward on landing.
Ah memories!
Some of those bikes must have been very uncomfortable and probably a little unmanageable off-road
folk were built of much sterner stuff in those days..
Biggest fear was always sliding forward off the saddle if you stopped suddenly. There was very little standover.
One of my friends had a cunning plan and angled his saddle up at the front to help prevent this.
Needless to say he slid if the back of the saddle in a fast downhill section and landed on the back tyre. I've never seen someone stop so quickly purely by slamming their gonads into their seat stay and then sitting on their back tyre mute with pain.
In the 70s I had a stock puch "racer"
More into the 80s really I used a 531 10 sp "racer" - actually probably an old training frame for a real racer as it had campag record hubs with tubs.
I inverted and cut off the drops, fitted cyclocross tubs with a bit of knobble, wide ratio block and off I went. Loads of RSF style riding. I still have this bike and resurrected it recently. I cannot believe I used to ride it off road
My jump bike was some old gents frame. To "improve" it we grafted in froks from a NSU moped. Well it sort of had suspension and a super tough wheel. Who cared about brakes. It eventually had a Choper rea wheel added as well. Suspect it was shite. The forks were added after the originals repatedly bent on landing and the front tyre kept jamming under the crown. When they broke they were swapped out.To this day I am damn positive that I had the mates record length jump. 21feet from a slight downhill run, off a car bonnet on 2 breeze blocks ramp. Can't believe that now but that figure has always been really clear and I know we measured jumps all the time.
i had a mini Chopper called a Chipper and then a simialr bike called a Joker, which kind of sounds appropriate for me 🙂
I then purchased a second hand bmx as soon as i could!!! It was a bit big and I remember falling off on my test ride, in front an older bmx club racer I purchased it from 🙄 The memory of that purchase is very intense has stayed with me to be cherised.
Lovely thread. 😀
I had a mini Chopper called a Tomahawk- it had no gears but looked like it did. My grandad rescued it from a skip and done it up for me. It was a rustbucket.
Then some kid at school challenged me to a downhill race down our local hill. On road not offroad. I was in the lead and feeling like Graham Hill until i had to stop at the bottom. I realised my brakes were crap and did nothing to slow me down.
Having no time to react i whacked over the kerb and went straight through Daniel Drivers front garden wall. Solid brick it was. I lay in a cloud of brick dust for a few seconds before his parents came out of the house and handed me my front wheel (still attatched to the forks and headtube).
'Is this yours' they said.......
Glory days! And i still won the race!
thinking back, there was some pretty crap bike tech. walloping the crap out of cotter pins until the thread was rounded off and useless was fun :-). Don't think i ever had a full set of bearings in the headset. Chromed rims wire wool & brasso !!!
I had a racer but I wanted a BMX so I put Grifter handlebars on my racer.
It kind of worked.
I'd forgotten we used to call the Scramblers. Made me laugh!
Another Grifter. But I used the flashy light control sticker from my Star Wars Imperial Troop Transporter on the recessed bits in the foam handlebar cover, for that space age look XD.
Another Grifter here.
Started off that horrible 'steel blue' colour but soon modded with sliver and gold metallic paint, bright yellow BMX-style grips and a paper clip stuck through the monkey chain to keep it in the middle gear! 😆
Cotter pins???? whoever thought that was an acceptable way to fix the cranks on? I remember stopping every mile or so to **** the things with a rock!
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Ours were called trackers.
Mostly as above though. Racer frame, double rimmed wheels, cyclocross tyres, BMX headset, motorbike handlebars, singlespeed. I had mine for years, ace bike. We were riding (although I seem to remember quite a lot of pushing too) them on the same trails that mountainbikers use nowadays.
Cut down jeans, can of coke in the back pocket for a drink. Jumps, wheelies, skids. All the same stuff we do now.
Same as most people, Puch 10spd racer, with flipped drops, then cowhorns and stem mounted levers somehow. Also referred to as 'scramblers'. Back in the 70's my mum used to take me to all the local MX scrambles, and I guess the name came from there as I got home and imagination kicked in.
I think I'd quite like that frame again, or at least a look at it - I could be mis-remembering it, but thinking back now, I have a sense that it was actually quite a nice frame.
samuri:
Jumps, wheelies, skids. All the same stuff we do now.
Yeah, funny how it's not [really] changed eh?
Mine was mostly used for popping around to to your mates houses on, riding down the park over a few bricks and an old plank for jumps, or thrashing through the woods on ... (I don't make that kinda 'brrrrrr' type engine noise now, like I did back then, (although it's not [i]absolutely[/i] unknown if the mood takes me and the track really calls out for it 😛 )).
a chopper bike with clunky gears lol
Great thread 🙂
A Raleigh Jeep
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I was riding a single speed, fixed wheel..
I think they called them "Track Bikes" 😀
I had a purple chopper 😳 That i hand painted black and gold ala JPS F1 cars, I also liked to have a "Hamlet" as well....
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First I had a Raleigh Tomahawk
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Then a Grifter
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Yes, cotter pins, handlebar clamps, and breaks were crap. Dodgy chroming.
Seem to remember the term 'scramblers' as well, rings a bell. Someone needs to resurrect the term. Cotic Scrambler...
I had a 5 speed racer with moped forks and front wheel with drum brakes and a tractor steering wheel 😯
Raleigh Jeep here too. Mine had a blue frame. A steel framed, rigid singlespeed. How things go round!
And our mountains were coal bings (slag heaps).
I was on a grifter with a series of forks and bars!
Raleigh Chico, scrambling and jumps in the woods. great fun, happy days.
pretty sure it was very similar to that raleigh jeep ^^ up there ^^ maybe smaller, definitely the same colour.
Kev
I had a grifter with the magical disintegrating seat
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off road tastic
had a Raleigh Chipper (smaller singlespeed Chopper) that my dad bought second hand, had sprayed purple and added my initials instead of the head badge.
Then I can't remember what it was other than a very lovely green, cruiser type with white wall tyres and white grips, and North Road type bars -I loved that bike and can remember many days riding through local woods and trails on it.
I wasn't even born in the 70s!
I did some early off-roading (may have been early 80s rather than 70s) on an old heavy ladies bike that I'd been given to play around with. A mate and I grafted a chainring onto the back wheel (bolted it through the spokes with blocks of wood) to make a 1:1 geared fixed wheel. We reckoned we could go anywhere on it - hours of fun ploughing though undergrowth in the local woods.
That bike eventually met its maker when the chain flew off while whizzing down a hill with feet on the (step-through) frame. Locked the wheel solid and wore right through the tyre before it stopped. Didn't fall off though, but we could never be bothered to find another tyre for the odd-size "policeman's bike" rim (the rear spokes weren't too healthy either).
Didn't call it a mountain bike though - I'd never heard of them until the mid 80s when a rich kid at school had one built by Overburys.
Some sort of gold hand painted bike with solid beige tyres and handling that went all wobbly at speed (faster than 6mph). I was six, it was the first thing I ever rode without stabilizers. By 1981 it had been replaced by a silver Raleigh Strika (sadly without the coaster brake of my mate's otherwise identical bike). In 1983 that too was replaced by a Stratton BMX 20, with gobs of welding runoff stuck to the frame and a BB, headset and brakes that shook themselves loose.
We used to call them trackers too, one LBH used to sell "five bob trackers" [25p in new money], which were basic single speeds made up from scrap parts.
From 1967 to about 1972 I had a 26" Elswick Hopper with 3 spd Sturmey Archer hub. Mods amounted to taking off chain guard and mud guards and getting the widest tyres possible which were 1 3/8" and not very knobbly. Started with a pair of motorcycle ace bars fitted upside down than managed to get hold of a genuine pair of motorbike scrambler bars with a brace, nearly broke the stem opening it wide enough to get them in, but I thought it looked like the dog's dangly bits even though the bars had been bent in a crash.
Bit of a break then until mid / late 1980s when I got an MBK - massive improvement apart from the U brake mounted behind the BB - stopped you by getting clogged with mud.
Striker for me, did have a coaster brake so rear tyre didn't last long
I had something along the lines of analogue andy's Raleigh except it wasnt a Raleigh and it was purple, its probably still do in one of the sheds. Used to ride it round the fields a bit. Mate had a grifter which we rode round round and round one of the woods on his folks farm - it was a tiny wood but we got a snakey down hill bit and a water splash throught the stream.
Converted my brother's old Raleigh Flyer youth's racer to a geared tracker by adding a touring 5 speed freewheel 14-32 and this very mech, a Suntour GT. Used a stem mount shifter without a care for my nads. Rescued the mech a few years back while giving my dad a hand clearing the garage.
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Peugeot PX10 with tubulars. Did a 10 day offroad tour in Nth Queensland on one too.
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