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Many of the trails have been ruined by heavy logging machinery in the last week.
Am I being cynical in thinking they have driven on the trails intentionally?
It is a waste of time going there now.
Woods you say? What on earth would loggers be doing in there?
your leisure is less important than woodchip for bog rolls.
surely its not hard to make new trails?
Or take up road riding
philxx1975 - Member
surely its not hard to make new trails?Or take up road riding
Not done much trail building then?
no idea what/where Wharncliffe woods are, but much of my riding is in giant tree factories and as such I can't really moan when the loggers tear a bit of it up. 9 times out of 10 it's led to discovering better trails we'd never have ridden otherwise.
Which trails have been affected?
Not done much trail building then?
What If you mean do I need a perfectly smooth path with a man made berm in it to enjoy myself ...NO
And honestly trail builders mainly **** things up for everyone then bitch about it when their crappy trails are torn up, people went for years without needing you divine intervention
no idea what/where Wharncliffe woods are, but much of my riding is in giant tree factories and as such I can't really moan when the loggers tear a bit of it up. 9 times out of 10 it's led to discovering better trails we'd never have ridden otherwise.
A man who gets the idea
Sad times, a bit like losing an old friend. Happens in the Surrey Hills every few years. Commercial woodland is well commercial wood land. Tough part is new/repaired trails without the trees are dull.
Suspect you are referring to the Wharncouver trail area and wrecked the jumps, the locals seem to rebuild them quite quickly although it doesn't make it right? There are many other descents to be had along the hillside as we know surely they haven't gone all along? I visit now and again and go to ride the singletrack rooty/rocky trails and would imagine there are still enough to fill a days riding?
None of the Wharncouver stuff is legit, so it'll all get logged eventually.
Few years since was my local area my understanding is that the area of woods with the downhill riding is too steep to be economic for commercial forestry not that I ride downhill
Unless things have changed nothing is really sanctioned just tolerated
There was a trailbuilding group affiliated to Imbra but the FE local management were not helpful and gave up on vandalism of trail signs and then felling destroyed sections of built xcwhich was avoidable
Cries out for xc style stuff to link the bottoms of the downhills to avoid lines crossing exiting on horse rides litter pick agree jump locations that can be maintained and are unobtrusive
Lots of good natural riding but none is bridleway old enough to recall when access was restricted
FE Management have 'their way' of doing things. If you can complete the box ticking and meeting exercises they are usually very happy to let trail building and maintenance continue. They have to be certain that you are of 'the right stuff' before they will sanction and protect your trails on their land.
philxx1975 - Member
Not done much trail building then?
What If you mean do I need a perfectly smooth path with a man made berm in it to enjoy myself ...NO
Not been to Wharncliffe then I suspect. I don't often say this but - You're opinions are knobbish.
what he said
Reminds me of when my sister in law was ranting and raving about official complaints, petitions, "how can they do this" etc. when her local dog walk was "ruined". Turns out some trees had been cut down in....."the Coppice"......erm.
It's lousy when your favourite trails get mashed by foresting but as others have said. It's a business, albeit with a long life cycle compared with other production or farming methods - it's going to happen at some point. New trails will appear, it will all be ok.
If you build or ride in managed woodland, sooner or later your trails will be ruined by forestry operations.
You might as well whinge about the rain deliberately eroding your trails.
Im happy to accept that unofficial trails in a working forest are likely to get trashed at some point.
Better to have and enjoy them for a period than not at all.
Buy a map and go out and find new places to ride.
philxx1975 - MemberWhat If you mean do I need a perfectly smooth path with a man made berm in it to enjoy myself ...NO
I can only picture 2 berms in my head at warnclife, not that kind of trail I'm afraid. It's a very steep hill, with lots of rocky/rooty trails littered with drops and big gap jumps.
And honestly trail builders mainly **** things up for everyone then bitch about it when their crappy trails are torn up, people went for years without needing you divine intervention
Warncliffe / Grenoside has had a 'scene' since time immemorial. It's where Steve Peat lives, and where Tracey Mosley rode whilst at uni in Sheffield. It's a stretch, but you could say without Warncliffe there would be no Peaty or Mosley, no one would have inspired the next generation (Athertons et. al.) and british mountainbiking could be very different.
no idea what/where Wharncliffe woods are, but much of my riding is in giant tree factories and as such I can't really moan when the loggers tear a bit of it up. 9 times out of 10 it's led to discovering better trails we'd never have ridden otherwise.
Steve Peat's section in Seasons, and a load of other films too. If there's a UK section to a video of Peat/Bryceland/Fairclough, it's quite possibly Warncliffe.
It's not a 'tree factory', most of it is a steep hillside of deciduous trees, I presume it's not that bit that's been felled? A Crying shame if it is.
It's a stretch
As most things on here are to justify a viewpoint.
As most things on here are to justify a viewpoint.
Seeing as you don't know where they are, I could also tell you there's a heard of invisible pink unicorns in the woods and leprechauns marshaling the trails.
there's a heard of invisible pink unicorns in the wood
how do you know they are pink though eh?
Seasons - Director's cut.
how do you know they are pink though eh?
Are you mocking my religious beliefs? Mods!!!!!!!!!!!!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invisible_Pink_Unicorn
Invisible pink unicorns at 1:58.
We've just lost a load of local trails in the same way. Not the first time it's happened, wont be the last You wait a bit, they clear & replant, and then you build new, different trails on an open hillside. Always nice to be in the forst, but a lot of the time, trails in the open dry out faster. There are a couple in particular that are just baked solid now, and are great fun to ride.
I can only picture 2 berms in my head at warnclife, not that kind of trail I'm afraid.
The old school end near has all rocks and about one berm, the new stuff is mostly berms and has about one flat corner, the woods have an amazing mix of riding now.
Those unicorns in that Seasons clip is Rhyd-Y-Felin, I've still not seen any in Wharncliffe 😉
I could also tell you there's a heard of invisible pink unicorns in the woods and leprechauns marshaling the trails.
Yes but then you could probably spend your time more usefully, telling those WGAS
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Yes but then you could probably spend your time more usefully, telling those WGAS
Come here.
Come on.
You need a hug.
There there.
*pats on back*
Now, show me on the dolly where the internet hurt you?
This is why the UK Enduro round in Sheffield at the end of this month has had to be switched to Wales.
Luckily the manager in the Crychan Forest is a great guy and OKs pretty much everything, so it's still going to be brilliant with lots of great steep techie natural tracks. Only a fool would miss it.
(Yes, I am part of the UK Enduro team, but that doesn't mean it isn't true!)
cant believe some of the knobbish replies on this thread: Wharncliffe is a legendary DH spot, as thisisnotaspoon has detailed. Its got a huge significance in british DH history which, thanks to Peaty, is as rich a history as you could find in any other sport.
I don't know the extent of the logging and whether or not its been ruined but its a big deal either way
The steep stuff was unaffected when I rode it on Wednesday, some of the flatter woods closer to Greno have been logged but that was a very small proportion of the woods.
If your an actual local to the area this happens every 5 years or so it's nothing new
Remind me which knob placed the entire infrastructure of a woodland on one man's reputation then went on about unicorns.