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Has anyone welded up a cracked chain stay on an On One Inbred? Any advice? Or is there no point?
cheers
Rich
My brother Peterpoddy had his chainstay replaced on his 853 Inbred by Argos cycles I think - it now has a properly designed chainstay on it....
Costs a lot of money (I'll point him to this thread) but not sure how much of that was the nice paintjob he had on it.
I had the downtube/headtube interface brazed up and reinforcing gusset added for 35 quid at Vernon Barker in Dronfield.
No post process (paint) involved by them, I just slapped some on as it's the urban/commuter.
argos wanted ~£300 to replace both chainstays on my P7 and paint. they wouldn't just do one side.
P7 isn't a cheap frame but i didn't like it that much.
Would be better off brazing a small plate over the crack.
Try a local fabricator, smith or garage.
argos wanted ~£300 to replace both chainstays on my P7 and paint. they wouldn't just do one side.
I guess there was a reason for that. I had one replaced by them in 2008 for about £80, plus paint, transfers etc which took it to around £225 if I recall correctly
The 853 Inbred of its time was renown for chainsuck issues as there was so little chainring clearance (2.5mm on a 44t ring) and mine went through the stay in a year. I had it replaced with a straighter one of my own choosing which lost a few mm of mud room (negligible in real terms) but a lot more chainring clearance.
It worked perfectly. I still have the bike in the same paint and the stay is virtually pristine many thousands of miles later.
Was it worth it?
Financially no. I spent nearly as much on the repair as I did on the frame originally.
But to me, yes, it was worth every penny. It's my favourite bike of all time, very versatile, fits me perfectly and rides beautifully. I've MTBd everywhere on it, commuted for years on it and now I tour on it. I'll never sell it.
Would be better off brazing a small plate over the crack.
Try a local fabricator, smith or garage.
No it wouldn't. That will cure the symptom but not the problem! See above.... 🙂
Sorry but you would be better off brazing a small plate over the crack.
If you read your own post, it explains that. I'd say about £200 better off.
£20 for the braze job, and a fiver for a rattly can.
New frame not around £200?
Sorry but you would be better off brazing a small plate over the crack.
If you read your own post, it explains that. I'd say about £200 better off.
£20 for the braze job, and a fiver for a rattly can.
No. You wouldn't. I'll say it again: That cures the symptom, not the problem. I'll find the pics of mine when I get the chance, which will prove the point.
I remember your story Peter. I had a SS frame from the same run. I loved that bike too, but ripped the head tube off it. 😉
No. You wouldn't. I'll say it again: That cures the symptom, not the problem. I'll find the pics of mine when I get the chance, which will prove the point.
If anything, it'd make the problem a lot worse! Your inbred chainstay is now lovely, the way it should have been from new. I reckon £80 was a bargain. You could get a powder coat for £30 instead of fancier paint to keep costs down.
I sold mine before it cracked (the chain suck jamming was already making a big gouge in the stay) but it would have been nice to keep it. Although I bought a Pitch Pro with the money I sold it for which is miles better!
If anything, it'd make the problem a lot worse!
Ehh? On what planet does that make sense? I'm confused. Problem is cured. Fact.
f anything, it'd make the problem a lot worse!
Ehh? On what planet does that make sense? I'm confused. Problem is cured. Fact.
Adding a plate on top of the crack would make it worse, as it would reduce the clearance even further.
Mine cracked in the same place, I looked into a repair but found it cheaper to buy another frame
Another cracked 853 Inbred here, my brother turned it in to a Ragley style chainstay for me* about 4 years ago and I still ride it all the time.
Unless it's an 853 and you love it then it makes no sense to pay someone to replace the chainstay.
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*for a favour, he doesn't do it generally
Here you go:
Before. One chainstay gouged to buggery by chain suck. Bike just under one year old and on it's third middle ring, because as soon as it wore slightly he chain suck started and could be so bad you had to remove the chainset to get it out.
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And from the other sid you can see there's not much metal left. Can that be cured with a little plate? No. Don't be daft. 🙂
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And after the repair. More chainring clearance from a straighter stay. Dead simple. Design fault cured.
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Where before there was 2.5mm clearance (HT2 spacer used as feeler gauge) now I could get my finger in.
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And something like 7 years later the new stay is still virtually untouched.
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In all that time the bike has worn the same chainset, the same front mech and a 9sp chain and cassette, so only the stay had changed.
RestlessNative has found the same solution in a different style to me. 🙂
No, it makes no financial sense at all. But how many times do you read on STW about one of the benefits of steel being how easy it is to repair? And that's just what I've done. I really like this bike. I can't get another one the same, so I'll keep repairing it and repainting it until I can't ride any more. 🙂