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Noticed a couple of cracks on my old Cannondale frame yesterday:
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Old second hand frame of no value, another old frame in shed waiting to go - but I've grown fond of this one over the last 13 months. Not worth a 'proper' repair, but I'm toying with the idea of taking it round the local metal shop to see what they can do; quick'n'dirty, wouldn't need to look pretty, spray can the damaged paintwork afterwards. Not a critical tube join, the metal's quite thick there...

Anybody done something similar successfully?


 
Posted : 29/01/2019 9:38 am
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I'd be tempted to just fit a jubilee clip round it to hold it in place. Welding Aluminium without subsequent heat treatment can weaken it further.

Slip a bit of inner tube over the clip to hide it!


 
Posted : 29/01/2019 9:41 am
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I've seen successful repairs and also comments online that the heat treating is lost an dit won't work.


 
Posted : 29/01/2019 9:42 am
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Yeah, I know all the theory and anecdotes, I was after actual experience. Might just try it and see for my own interest.


 
Posted : 29/01/2019 9:44 am
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for balance - my son ran an alu Kona with a cracked/welded head tube with no issues but he was doing gentle xc.


 
Posted : 29/01/2019 9:45 am
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Fiberfix!


 
Posted : 29/01/2019 9:45 am
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After watching both videos on here I'd second Fiberfix if its not ££££


 
Posted : 29/01/2019 10:26 am
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If it's not a 27.2mm seatpost I would be tempted to just bang a shim in there and run a smaller diameter seatpost.


 
Posted : 29/01/2019 10:42 am
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There's a history. Nominal 31.6mm post size, but both 31.6 and 27.2 with a 31.6 shim slipped or creaked. Put in a 31.8 shim, no slip or creak. I'd leave the shim in if I went the fiberfix route.


 
Posted : 29/01/2019 10:46 am
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I'd weld it, with synergic MIG,the metal there is relatively thick,easy to glen it out from behind after, plenty of strengthening in that area already, distortion is not going to be a problem


 
Posted : 29/01/2019 10:46 am
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You'll never be able to sell the frame, so what you do to it now doesn't matter.

I suggest epoxying the seatpost in at your required height. If you cut off the cracked bit it will look neat, and you can tell everyone it's a weight weenie modification - especially if you remove the unnecessary length of the seatpost.

And think of the weight you get rid off by dispensing with the seat clamp... 🙂

Best of all, you only need £5 of epoxy, and no need for repaint or expensive craftmanship with a welder.


 
Posted : 29/01/2019 1:56 pm
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Why not drill the ends to stop crack propagation then bond the shim in?


 
Posted : 29/01/2019 2:00 pm
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Selling it was never going to be on the table. It's a 26" frame I bought off here for £60 and intended using to destruction, as I do with all my frames. Epoxy, you say...any particular kind?


 
Posted : 29/01/2019 2:17 pm
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Why not drill the ends to stop crack propagation then bond the shim in?

That seems like the best suggestion, in my opinion.


 
Posted : 29/01/2019 3:14 pm
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JB weld is a good choice as an epoxy adhesive


 
Posted : 29/01/2019 8:13 pm
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Get it welded, job done.


 
Posted : 30/01/2019 6:16 am
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Cannondales are made using 6000 series, heat treated alloys - so welding will create localised embrittlement, plus the heat will blacken all the paint and make it look $hit. Drilling holes to prevent crack-propogation and bonding in a seat post - make sure you use a flap wheel or similar down the seat tube to prep the surface / improve the bond. I'd use a something like Devcon 2 Ton Epoxy which has slower cure time / good gap-filling properties.


 
Posted : 30/01/2019 10:36 am
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Has anyone mentioned stickers yet


 
Posted : 30/01/2019 10:38 am

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