[Closed] Weight obsession 🙁

Maybe de-sticker them then 😉

Apparently Alex rims.

If it's any consolation, I've spent much more per gram saved on some things.

£100 on a (unused SH) carbon stem, that retails for £250, saved 20g
Can't remember the figures, but I've had some shimano yumeya kit before, namely m970 brake res covers, that saved 3g over stock... on a 35lb freeride bike.

Maybe de-sticker them then

Another few grams saved as well! Lik ethe way you're thinking 🙂

I topped the scales a 20.5 stone this morning.

get a ****ing life you saddo............... 😀

Swapped the cheap SKS commuter mudguards for some lightweight carbon ones on my winter bike. Think it may be sub 11 kilos now - and that's with Ultegra and Ksyriums!

Alex make some good rims 🙂

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Apparently Alex rims.

Very very well 😈

Drill everything and take saddle off? What could go wrong..

That is a huge amount of money for anything other than top drawer components.
Alex may be great but you'll take a substantial hit on resale value because of their perceived quality.

FWIW I bought a pair of handbuilt wheels from ActionSports for £649:-
Crests
DT240 6 bolt
CXrays

1450g I think. The new MK3 Crests make carbon rims on such a bike redundant.

What wheels were they? Also if your current wheels are as you said (not that I'm stalking you) 1900g and these are 349g lighter then the resultant 1551g is not a good weight for that money.

346g or the weight of three medium bananas from my fruitbowl.

327kcals saved then!!

Agreed, you get to a point where it gets daft - this is different for everyone.

Does this mean you'll stop buying new stuff OP? 😛

No one seems to think about weight saving with clothing though.

Start cutting bits off your riding kit to save similar amounts. Or ride naked.

The weight of bananas compared to wheels only matters if you put them inside your tyres.

I like lighter bikes but wheels especially- light wheels and tyres- make such a difference to feel. I don't care if it makes you x% faster up a hill or whatever, I like how it feels when moving the bike around. (though I like how heavy wheels feel when steamrollering rocks, to be fair)

Or ride naked.

I tried that, it'snot very comfy.

Crests
DT240 6 bolt
CXrays

1450g I think

Just nabbed a PR on a steep climb on a 28lb bike. About a minute quicker than the effort on my 21lb 26er, and I was fitter then too.

I am however seriously considering spending £40 on a new disc rotor in black to replace the blue one I have in the spares bin.

Does this mean you'll stop buying new stuff OP?

After seeing a Youtube video where a bloke uses an old pair of road bars and an inner tube to make a bike rack, which I've replicated in my shed:

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...instead of buying a new solution I may have turned a corner... 🙂

What wheels were they? Also if your current wheels are as you said (not that I'm stalking you) 1900g and these are 349g lighter then the resultant 1551g is not a good weight for that money.

I have the Raleigh promax wheels (alex rims, chosen hubs) which weigh in at 1915g, and was looking at AC Wide Lightnings at 1546g for £599.

No one seems to think about weight saving with clothing though.

Oh, they do. Trust me.

You new at this game or something? 🙂

instead of buying a new solution I may have turned a corner

I can quote this on your next thread asking for purchase advice?

https://www.actionsports.de/en/dt-swiss-240s-disc-is-custom-wheelset-mtb-29er-4051?c=398

1453g (I was out by 3g must try harder) and 649Euros which is about £550

I am impressed - arrived in less than a week and build quality is really good. Better hubs than ACs I think (even though I like ACs I think the DTs are possibly better sealed and also don't suffer from redishing issues if you move to SRAM XD which my older ACs did)

1450g I think. The new MK3 Crests make carbon rims on such a bike redundant.

In pure weight terms yes. But carbon rims are not just about the weight.

^ agreed but I meant for a marathon bike where pinpoint steering accuracy and megastiffness aren't really top of the tree.

Never really bothered by weight. I'm not the fastest rider and tend to crash / fall off a fair bit. Therefore bombproofness is my number one priority. Just see it as fitness training, the extra weight will get you fitter 🙂

I was annoyed today when I fitted a new cassette which was 30g more than the old one 🙁

adsh - aaaarrrrgh.

Bought some secondhand Crests on Pro2 evos. Must have been heavy spokes as they come in about 1850g taped with valves.

And now I'm looking at your link damn it.

Kryton, saving weight on wheels is fine, and 300g+ is a lot tbh, but agree that's not top value you've found.

Kryton, saving weight on wheels is fine, and 300g+ is a lot tbh, but agree that's not top value you've found.

Is ADSH's better?

ADSH - I can only get to 1471g - hub, std QR/15mm front, Crests, Revolution spokes, alu nipples for £511. How did you get to 1453g?

I think for Marathon general trail I'd be better of with DT's 331's rather then crests?

Also, it says on the website that the "through bolt" goes straight into a standard QR - does it really replace a standard QR? What does it screw into?

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instead of buying a new solution I may have turned a corner

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LOL, I love how he tries to keep that bs going.

It's the gift that keeps giving.

I'm not buying them I'm just intrigued!

I found a calculator that I plugged the "all things being equal except weight" variables in for the Built wells marathon distance - 65k - and it shows i'd be 60m behind with a 376g weight penalty. I just need to train to ride faster for 60m with my current wheels 🙂

Kryton57 - Member
I think for Marathon general trail I'd be better of with DT's 331's rather then crests?

That's what my wheels essentially are, DT XR331's on 350 hubs badge'd up as KTM Team CC and they're rather nice to be honest.

it shows i'd be 60m behind with a 376g weight penalty

Not sure about this.

In MTBing generally, when trying to go fast, a huge amount of energy is expended accelerating after having to brake for something. Particularly true on windy twisty XC courses. Heavy wheels make a huge difference in this situation. Much more so than when simply climbing.

Ok so a Builth marathon isn't like a Gorrick, but its still much more of an issue than on road.

Likewise, they also accelerate faster / easier downhill and less chance of a stall in a rebound situations fork setup given.

Likewise, they also accelerate faster / easier downhill and less chance of a stall in a rebound situations fork setup given.

When I shoot myself will it be suicide or will this count as manslaughter

Lol, I'm not sure whether you've tapped into my SOH or not.

Indeed, the pointless this of this level of detail isn't lost on me either...

I get the logic, but surely if you're running 4th at the events, be they Gorricks or Marathons, then i get it... But if you're in a battle for 23rd does it matter if you're 23rd or 22nd ? Surely if you're a chunk of the pace, throwing light wheels at the problem isn't the answer....

weeksy - Member
Surely if you're a chunk

In MTBing generally, when trying to go fast, a huge amount of energy is expended accelerating after having to brake for something. Particularly true on windy twisty XC courses. Heavy wheels make a huge difference in this situation. Much more so than when simply climbing.

Do you have proof/evidence/studies of that or is it just your opinion?

I did some calculations once. It's pretty easy to work out how much extra energy larger or heavier wheels require to get up to speed. The only subjective part is estimating how many times you brake and accelerate during a race. And that of course depends massively on the course and how you are riding it. At a Gorrick for example where it's flat and you have to keep a lot of speed in the singletrack, there can be a lot more late braking and stamping on pedals than somewhere you are settling into long climbs at threshold.