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Waterproof gloves, do decent ones exist?

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I thought the 100% Hydromatic was the solution, but it turns out for me not. They would be perfect if I put them on at the start of a ride and didn't take them off.

Is there an anything that's:
1. about the same bulkiness i.e. not very insulated
2. has a strapped rather than elasticated cuff, so I can get my slightly expanded sweaty hands inside mid-ride
3. has a liner that doesn't cling to sweaty hands, thus making them difficult to put on and remove
4. has liner in the fingers that doesn't pull out when you take them off

Every single one I've read about whether proper reviews or customer reviews has one issue or another. I tried the Sealskinz All Weather MTB one which seems to fit the bill, but the sizing is too tight over the knuckles for me.

 
Posted : 09/11/2023 11:06 pm
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Yes. Pearl Izumi WXB....

 
Posted : 09/11/2023 11:15 pm
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I use these for work and they are pretty good. 

https://www.safetygloves.co.uk/517_9_single.html?gclid=Cj0KCQiAo7KqBhDhARIsAKhZ4uhLI4HR_TrTZz3cgu06SnWpgQBe324Ovz4XNIfb9o4UKfExMXr_rbUaAgBxEALw_wcB

Really warm as well. 

 
Posted : 09/11/2023 11:24 pm
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Yes. Pearl Izumi WXB….

Discontinued with no direct replacement. I should have been clearer, existing is not enough, I want to be able to buy them.

Looked into non-cycling and workwear brands, might give Ejendals Tegera 517 a try at £13.

 
Posted : 09/11/2023 11:24 pm
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I got some Ejendals 517 gloves to try because compared to bike specific kit they are pretty cheap. They're not too bulky, have a strap closure and are pretty grippy. I've only worn them on one ride so far so that's about as much as I can tell you but I'll definitely be trying them again. And as far as I can tell the lining is attached so doesn't pull out when you take them off.

 
Posted : 09/11/2023 11:26 pm
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I really rate these, rab vr gloves. Not a cycling glove but I've been using them for a good few years. 

https://www.ldmountaincentre.com/walk-hike-c1/accessories-c16/gloves-c84/rab-vr-glove-p32146

 
Posted : 09/11/2023 11:30 pm
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Those VR aren't supposed to be waterproof though.

 
Posted : 10/11/2023 1:40 am
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Embrace the wetness and wear neoprene.

Wet - yes. Cold - no way!

https://www.endurasport.com/fs260-pro-nemo-glove-ii-black/12928705.html

Pro-tip - these are also the best gloves on earth for snowball fights!

 
Posted : 10/11/2023 9:26 am
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Your reasons are why I like the Dissent133 system - separate inner gloves and an outer waterproof shell. no liner to pull out, you can change the inner glove according to temp/sweatiness and take off the outer when the rain stops and/or you've warmed up enough,

It works for me other than finding the thumbs a little tight if using all 3 layers, but I know others are sceptical about the expense & slight faff factor taking layers on and off but YMMV.

https://www.dissent133.com/

 
Posted : 10/11/2023 9:42 am
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Stolen Goat Climb and Conquer might fit the bill, they seem to get good reviews and look reasonably thin but claim to be waterproof etc.

Galibier Tempest are great as a winter glove you can actually take on and off, I think the liner is sewn in place or something. Probably bulkier than you are looking for.

Agree (in theory) about the Dissent Gloves, I got the waterproof outer for exactly this reason so I could wear it over e.g. a merino liner glove. However I found them too small.

(stealth ad, size L Dissent waterproof outer for sale, never ridden!).

 
Posted : 10/11/2023 9:56 am
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I tried the Sealskinz All Weather MTB one

Did you try the Ultra Grip one? These:

https://www.sealskinz.com/products/waterproof-all-weather-ultra-grip-knitted-glove

I've found them absolutely brilliant.

And the Dexshell Thermfit seems to be the same item:

https://www.google.com/search?q=dexshell+thermfit

 
Posted : 10/11/2023 10:13 am
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Without derailing the thread, just in case anyone is coming here looking for a proper cold/wet weather glove

I can highly recommend the Giro Proof

But....they are fairly bulky and do have an inner cuff. The liner isn't bad at all for getting your hands back in. Waterproof and warm

giro-proof-

 
Posted : 10/11/2023 10:29 am
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The issue for me is if they are too waterproof and warm (like neoprene) my hands sweat into them creating an uncomfortable pool of water. I tend to choose a wet weather glove based on temperature as much as waterproofness.

I have the Sealskinz All Weather MTB in fact I rode in them today, but I don't think they are actually as waterproof as normal Sealskinz ultragrip however I only use these if weather is warmer.  If it's colder I move to Aldi ski gloves which are even less waterproof  but I have a couple of pairs so can constantly dry/rotate after rides.

Size up the Sealskinz All Weather MTB? I think I had to. The main thing I dislike about their MTB glove is pulling off a wet one can pull the liner out too easily.

 
Posted : 10/11/2023 12:05 pm
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Another vote for Sealskinz here. They do a general purpose cycling glove too which is a bit more roomy than the MTB glove, although not as durable.

 
Posted : 10/11/2023 12:43 pm
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I hate my 100% gloves - they just sweat.

I got a pair of spatz gloves which have a lobster cover which can be hidden away when its not cold enough or raining.
They are a close fitting glove - but i can get a liner glove under then if its really cold.

All gloves are a comprimise - i just have a box full for different days

 
Posted : 10/11/2023 1:06 pm
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I hate my 100% gloves – they just sweat.

That was my experience too, perhaps the coldest my hands have ever been wearing a set and it wasn't even raining, very weird.

 
Posted : 10/11/2023 1:31 pm
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I like the seal skins knitted gloves if it's raining or cold.

I wouldn't be taking them off mid ride in the wet by choice

 
Posted : 10/11/2023 1:40 pm
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Is there an anything that’s:
1. about the same bulkiness i.e. not very insulated
2. has a strapped rather than elasticated cuff, so I can get my slightly expanded sweaty hands inside mid-ride
3. has a liner that doesn’t cling to sweaty hands, thus making them difficult to put on and remove
4. has liner in the fingers that doesn’t pull out when you take them off

In my experience, no - especially points 3 and 4.
I've got 2 approaches for gloves in wet weather. 1) For winter walking / climbing etc - multiple pairs of gloves. 2) Biking, a couple of pairs and if it's really cold then pogies.

If I could find a pair that would keep my hands warm and dry (I siffer with really cold hands and feet) then maybe I'd be more inclned to get out on the bike in the wetter / colder months.

 
Posted : 10/11/2023 2:17 pm
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Yeah I agree, 5 cheap pairs are better than 1 expensive pair.

 
Posted : 10/11/2023 3:02 pm
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I have never had a pair either for motorbikes of bicycles that have stayed waterproof for long.  I think its the stress on the stitching tears the membrane.  Rukka overgloves were waterproof

Neoprene ones are what I find best. 

 
Posted : 10/11/2023 3:49 pm
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No.
On any it's the fingers that go first, mainly index due to constantly resting/using the brake lever.

 
Posted : 10/11/2023 3:52 pm
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Probably nothing like what you had in mind but these are warm, waterproof, not bulky, surprisingly breathable and not expensive.

https://www.showagroup.com/eu-en/shop/temres-282

 
Posted : 10/11/2023 3:56 pm
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I have a few pairs of those egendals tegera 517s, they're never really right for me on the bike (I get really cold hands, I need warmer gloves than most people) but they're good gloves, and even if you don't click with them for bike use they're worth having around for other stuff. Mine still improve my riding experience for cleaning bikes and loading manky stuff into the car.

 
Posted : 10/11/2023 5:44 pm
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Hestra ergogrip aktiv

 
Posted : 10/11/2023 6:19 pm
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Did you try the Ultra Grip one? These:

Anmer

I’ve found them absolutely brilliant.

And the Dexshell Thermfit seems to be the same item:

https://www.google.com/search?q=dexshell+thermfit
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No, but I had seen them. I don't think I want knitted gloves. And I'd like a strapped cuff rather than elastic.

The issue for me is if they are too waterproof and warm (like neoprene) my hands sweat into them creating an uncomfortable pool of water. I tend to choose a wet weather glove based on temperature as much as waterproofness.

I'll climb gloveless if it's wet, but need something for the big descents when there's wind on me and I'm no longer generating much heat. This only works if I can get my hot wet expanded hands into the gloves at the top though.

Size up the Sealskinz All Weather MTB?

The fingers are on the borderline of being too long already unfortunately.

 
Posted : 10/11/2023 11:50 pm
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The dissent 133 water proof gloves do what they pruport to do.

I had the fulll shebang in the past but the other components are meh. The waterproof outers are the bomb.

 
Posted : 11/11/2023 12:24 am
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I got some Ejendals 517 gloves to try because compared to bike specific kit they are pretty cheap. They’re not too bulky, have a strap closure and are pretty grippy. I’ve only worn them on one ride so far so that’s about as much as I can tell you but I’ll definitely be trying them again. And as far as I can tell the lining is attached so doesn’t pull out when you take them off.

Based on this I bought a pair. I went up a size as advised and got Large but they are just slightly too tight on my first two fingers. As I suffer from Raynaulds this is not ideal. I have worn them once but I took the tags off so can't send them back. I'll be buying a pair of XL's though as they are well made gloves and were waterproof.

Does anyone one want to buy a pair of in effect new size Large gloves for just less than I paid? Say, £12? DM if interested. Ta.

 
Posted : 16/11/2023 11:48 am
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I went up a size as advised and got Large but they are just slightly too tight on my first two fingers.

I followed the size guide and went for size 9, they fit right. I didn't see any advice about sizing up, but it won't always be necessary.

Haven't ridden in them yet, but they feel fine on the bar. My only criticism is that the thumb is wide/boxy and oversized relative to the rest of the glove, and compared to my Hydromatics.

They are winter fleece lined though, the only waterproof non-insulated variant I found was the cut-resistant 577 which also works on touchscreens but is twice the price.

 
Posted : 17/11/2023 6:51 pm
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I think I read it in the reviews. Anyhoo, no matter. I’ve now given them to Mrs S and ordered a pair of XL ones.

 
Posted : 17/11/2023 7:03 pm