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Hello
My fingers really gets cold now....
So what is really warm?
I looked at pearl izumi lobster pro glove and Roeckl lobster .. anyone tried cheese ?
Galibier Barrier Deep Winter in a size bigger than needed.
A pair of silk liner gloves underneath.
Hot pockets in the back of the main glove if needed.
Pogies
Cheese? Can't say I have, I imagine it would brie a bit rubbish and turn your hands blue in the cold.
Anyway, I really like my Overland winter gloves. Warm and toasty.
Don't forget, the blood to your extremities gets cut off if your core is getting too cold. So often its more important to keep your core warm first. Also dont let heat leak out round your neck and head, wear a buff on your head and round your neck.
Once you sort that then look at layering up your hands. I use some inner gloves, then thicker ones on top.
I tried some latex inner gloves once, thinking they would act as a wind proof layer. They basically filled up with sweat, so don't do that.
As @Trimix says look after your ams first. I wear a full length base layer and then put on arm warmers (Planet-X merino). For gloves I use Black Diamond ice climbing gloves.
There's been at least two threads on this subject in the last couple of weeks BTW.
I wear an extra pair of fleece armwarmers when its cold, so that the blood is nice and warm before it reaches my hands. I suffer with cold hands and this makes a big difference.
Edit: ha ha, too slow. Basically as above
Has anyone tried heated gloves for MTB ?
I have some pile lined Montane gloves that come out when it’s freezing
I got some Shaleek heated gloves for Xmas.
I don't plan on using them for the mtb- they're pretty big and bulky and most of my riding is quite techy. I would use them on the road bike, maybe for long winter xc rides too.
Used them yesterday on a long walk, first impressions were good! I get Raynaulds pretty damn quickly- but didn't get it at all on my walk yesterday with the gloves on. Temp was about 3 degrees, I was out for about 2.5 hours. Battery life seems very long. They aren't like sticking your hand in a heater, but they kept my hands feeling a normal temperature rather than getting cold.
+1 for Galibier Deep Barrier Gloves. I wear them with some silver infused gloves as liners which I got from the Reynaud's shop.
Wore them in -5C on New Years Eve and for the most part my fingers were OK (once I stopped faffing around taking photos and carried on riding!).
Silk liners and some Sealskinz. and you don't want them to tight, so might need a larger size glove - or very thin liners.
When it gets properly cold, I tend to ditch cycling kit and use the stuff I have for winter mountaineering. My current ‘go to’ gloves are Rab VRs and Rab Baltoro, both adapted to get rid of some of the faff round the cuffs.
I find it’s really important to get a good insulated seal between sleeve and glove, especially on a bike where your arms are stretched out and likely to leave a gap. We solved this for my wife by adapting a pair of arm warmers to function as gaiters between her gloves and sleeves.
Lobster style ones definitely help - I've got some old Aldi specials that come out when it's bitter, Planetx do some pretty cheap or the Giro 'trigger mitt' style ones look interesting if you like keeping just one finger on the brakes and/or want better dexterity for gear changing, especially for road gears.
Has anyone tried heated gloves for MTB ?
Not personally no. But three riding buddies have them and they think they're ace. They even had to take them off last week as their hands were to hot, it was only -2 then I guess add a bit for windchill. Not 100% sure which they had but seem to remember Sealskins being mentioned
https://www.outdoorgb.com/p/Sealskinz_Waterproof_Heated_Cycle_Gloves/
I find it’s really important to get a good insulated seal between sleeve and glove, especially on a bike where your arms are stretched out and likely to leave a gap. We solved this for my wife by adapting a pair of arm warmers to function as gaiters between her gloves and sleeves.
My base layer has thumb holes for precisely this purpose.
On one of the other threads about this I mentioned I'd been on an Iditarod training camp. A point made there was to ensure that all your clothing worked "together", no bare spots or places where everything bunched up and caused a constriction.
My new 100% briskers appear to be doing their thing. Mate got some gore gloves, very simple waterproof ones which appear to be excellent, very thin almost roady like.
Pogies.
Better than any glove. Nice yhin comfortable glove on underneath perfect.
Like Scotroutes said, pogies. I have a love/hate relationship with them, I love that tehy keep my hands warm but I hate everything else about them. But that's still a good deal.
Second best I've found is Glacier Gloves Perfect Curves. I don't like the pogies for technical riding so I still wear these a fair bit. They've got their own drawbacks- they're thick neoprene so they mess with feel a lot, and being completely waterproof they sweat up and are hard to fully dry- but if you don't, they soon smell like a decaying corpse. But they're super warm (and completely waterproof means that you cna do stuff like washing your hands in a stream if they get muddy)
Still want to try the Galibiers, wish they had less palm padding but they look great otherwise. Briskers are nowhere near as warm as these options but then, not everyone wants or needs the warmest.
I work outside and use disposable vinyl gloves under track mitts work well
Seen a few people recommending pogies and have meant to try them myself but currently when it's miserable I use my snowboarding gloves. Got a couple of pairs and they're designed for wind chill and sub zero temperatures. Never have I had cold hands with them on.
What about the enduro sam hill style shields keep the wind chill off....
I've got some Keis heated liner gloves. Keis is primarily a motorbike-oriented brand with a system of gloves, jackets, insoles that you can either wire into the bike's 12V electrics, or use with an external Li-Ion battery pack.
The liner gloves are more like a fleece liner than a silk liner. The heating elements run around the sides of each fingers, so are out of the most obvious wear zones for cycling. The 2600mAh battery pack is relatively small and lightweight and it all works well tucked into the back pocket of a cycling top. There's an optional controller that gives 3 different levels of heat (with longer battery life) but I'm happy to use them on maximum temperature 🙂
There are a few suppliers of similar products for motorcyclists.
In winter I use mine with a pair of lobster gloves and they keep my hands comfortable down as low we see temperatures down here in the soft south. Using the same setup but with passive glove liners I'm likely to be in all manner of discomfort once the temperature heads below +5degC.
Not a cheap solution, and I don't know how they'd wear with intensive use, but they definitely make a difference for me in making it possible to get out in the winter.
It’s my toes that get cold, despite wearing thermal socks, is it time to discuss ideas for toes yet?
Pogies. I REALLY suffer with cold hands and feet (even indoors!).
Got some pogies 2(?) years back after advice on here. Total game changer for cold rides. Thin pair of gloves or none at all if working really hard.
Wish I could find something as effective for my poor frozen feet!
Si
It’s my toes that get cold, despite wearing thermal socks, is it time to discuss ideas for toes yet?
Don't be coming on here with your footist nonsense!
Decent footbeds
Size up
Wear gaiters
For really cold, below -5C or so, consider really thin liner socks then a Vapour Barrier Layer then some warm insulating socks.
Galibier Barrier Deep Winter in a size bigger than needed.
A pair of silk liner gloves underneath.
Not enough at sub 1 degrees road riding for me, but strangely after 1 hour my fingers seem to warm up (after holding them like a fist in the glove a lot to avoid frostbite :p).
Curious if there are any significantly better non-battery powdered options out there. Keis heated liners plus batteries will set you back around £200.
Anyone tried Shimano Windstopper Thermal Reflective Gloves?
They appear to get pretty decent reviews.
Got a pair of £5 eur incl shipping electric heating pads that connect to USB (I have a USB battery bank as is) and warm up to 35C, each will fit on top of my hands, might glue them to my silk liners if they work well - combined with the galibiers that should do the trick.
Or If you want to faff around a bit more and wait longer you can get heating elements that go down the fingers.
What really helps for me is putting some plastic bags over my socks its helps keepings the warmth inside! Also, I bring heating paths with me (you know the ones that you 'snap' and turn hard) they become like 40c for 5 mins and its heaven when it's cold <3
Dissent 133, the idea of layering is the only way of warm fingers, if you don't want to spend £100 on the 4 set, then buy some merino liner gloves and some galiber deep winter that will do the trick, we all layer up every where else ie base layer top and then our jerseys, so just do the same with gloves and socks
A friend of mine who was Joe Barnes mechanic fro a couple of years, then buggered off to Lapierre, made a pair of heated grips for Joe. He reckoned they were good for a couple of hours and were fully waterproof, I'll need to ask him if he got any further with them.
Aldi lobster cycling gloves are good if they have any available. Cheap and cheerful and very warm for occasions I need them. Lobster or pogies if you’re suffering.
For feet on a road bike this morning I had endura waterproof socks on inside normal summer roads shoes with a neoprene over shoe (cheapie Planet X ones) and my toes were lovely and warm. Ice on cars and frost on the pavements when I started out about 6.40 ish.
I tried some dhb merino lined winter gloves for the first time this morning - they were a good step above 100% Briskers - but not perfect. Still a tiny bit cold in a couple of fingers for the first 10 mins but then seemed to warm up. They’re probably also a bit chunky - riding on di2 sti’s - but they’ll do the job.
I looked around online but didn’t find Galibier (think the deep winters are out of stock anyway) and lots of brands were out of stock of their winter gloves.
Altura cresta gloves are pretty good. I have used mine below 0c and been comfortable
A good 10 years old noe so they might not make them anymore
I got some Planet X 365 crab hand gloves a few months ago. Have ridden a lot in 0 degrees and hands have never been cold at any time and are actually too hot by the end of the ride.
And this is from someone with circulation problems in hands and feet (my hands are even cold sat in the house!)
Simply getting a pair of oversized winter gloves and wearing relatively thin early winter/autumn gloves under may be the way to go if not going electric.
There are even lobster overgloves for sale but good luck finding any in stock - same for the planet X lobsters :/
I Bought my son a pair of 100% Brisker Hydromatic for xmas. They didn't fit so I bought him the right size and kept the bigger pair for myself. Not ridden in them yet but just been for a walk in them amd I am not very impressed. My hands weren't freezing but they were cold. I could feel the cold outer shell through the insulation layer. My ancient Sealskinz are a lot warmer, granted they are quite a bit bulkier too.
I got a pair of Madison avalanche last winter. For riding when it was hammering down with rain and almost 0deg temps. I found my thumb tips would still end up getting frozen midway through ride.
Caught some talk on one of the ski forums I think about using polypropylene liner gloves. As they are meant to be pretty durable compared to merino and silk.
Ordered Extremities Thinnys as recommended off Amazon for £4. Seem to be working well under the Madison's.
I have had a pair of the Galibier Deep Winters for three winters and whilst they are good I switch to cheap Aldi lobsters for serious cold. Part of the reason is that I have bad circulation and long fingers which means that even in XL my finger tips touch the ends of the gloves leaving no room for an air layer. Lobsters give that extra air room that keep my fingers warm
Page 2 and time to mention Pogies again
I’ve ridden the last few mornings starting around 7am. My Brisker Hydromatics just weren’t cutting it at zero or below (I suffer from Reynauds). Got a pair of the Sealskin heated gloves linked above (cheers!). Tried them yesterday (around -2c), fingers and thumbs were still cold with the gloves on level 2 but not the usual pain, level 3 had them very comfortable. Charge lasted around 4 hours on a mix of levels 1 to 3.
They’re a bit bulky but didn’t really impede my riding too much (gnar max enduro)
I find Briskers good for milder winter mtb. But for proper cold weather, and especially road riding, they are neither windproof (especially on the fingertips) or insulating enough.
I swear by my Specialized Sub-Zero gloves. Do they still make them? Fleece liner and waterproof overshell, works a treat in mid-winter. The extra layer between them really makes a difference.
I suffer from Reynauds, so spent a lot of time sorting out gloves. These days I wear a pair of silver fingerless glvoes when working at home, and started using them as additional gloove liners too. And Father Christmas gave me a few sets of those gel handwarmer things. They work, but I don't need 10 hours of heat, just enough to get me back up to temperature. I hate the disposable aspect too. Any reconmmendations for similar sized rechargable versions that will fit in a glove?
And as mentioned, the Sam Hill style handguards make sense, Joe Barnes had something to say along those lines:
As for cold feet, I've made the switch to flat pedals to get away from the nasty heatsink cleat. Vaude AM Moab STX boots are amazing, and when its properly wintery, a pair of short gaiters over the top, keeps toes snug and dry
I found some old hand guards off my GasGas enduro bike (moto). I put them on my Trek mainly as a joke to wind my son up but they actually do make a big difference on fast sections. Look awful but who cares.
Look awful but who cares.
Not as awful as pogies!
I've got what I think are the first version of these convertible lobster claws:-
https://garneau.com/eu_en/super-prestige-2-cycling-gloves-1482256
I bought them whilst at the Mega when it snowed/pissed down. Worked brilliantly.
I wore them the other day off road, it was around 2-3 degC and my hands were too warm. I had to ride without gloves for a bit as my hands started to itch.
Obvs people are different and on the road bike, with higher wind chill they're great.
It was -5C when we headed out this morning. Remembered a couple of points:
1. Don't death grip the bars!
2. Keep wiggling your fingers to keep the blood flowing.
Re pogies, again- there's absolutely no way I could have done yesterday's ride in any gloves I've ever owned. Even with teh pogies and some fairly warm gloves, I was properly cold by the end. Don't know how far I would have got in my best gloves alone- an hour? Not as far as the first descent on the loop for sure.
While we are on the subject a moan about glove sizing. Most manufacturers tell you to measure around your palm to get your size but my measurement puts me between M and L. In real life most XLs are too small because my fingers are so long. Surely finger length is just as important as palm width?
You've hacked my Instagram account!
Well today's weather was too much for my Planet-x lobster gloves, my hands were freezing!
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I've torn a hamstring so doing 'easy' rehab rides which mean I can't generate much heat by working hard. Was covered in ice by the time I got back home.....
While we are on the subject a moan about glove sizing. Most manufacturers tell you to measure around your palm to get your size but my measurement puts me between M and L. In real life most XLs are too small because my fingers are so long. Surely finger length is just as important as palm width?
+1
It's as if they don't actually hold a handlebar or have hands on the hoods when testing them.
@FOG - it's why I use mountaineering gloves - they are designed around holding an ice axe which is about the same circumference as a set of MTB grips.
First time out today using home made pogies.
As above, a game changer. I've had properly numb fingers on a couple of rides recently, so decided to give pogies a go.
Of course, none in stock anywhere, so I grabbed some leftover building paper and my childs sewing machine and knocked a pair together last night.
I'm struggling to figure out why I didn't embrace the pogie years ago now...
A regular lockdown ride for me recently involdves climbing out to a loch behind the house. Doing it anticlockwise means dropping from 300M vert on fireroad then tarmac over 4.5 miles.
It's a loooong coast all the way home, with no effort to generate heat.
One steeper bit in the middle generates some serious wind chill.
Did it today with my new pogies and summer gloves on, arrived home in comfort. Around 4 degrees out, and a light sleet.
Unfortunately Galibier Barrier Deep Winter gloves are out of stock so I ordered some Shimano gloves - these
My opinion - comfy and well made but not suited to winter- fingers still cold even with Icebreaker merino inner gloves on.
If you’re looking for good winter gloves - look elsewhere.
I take back what I said about the polypropylene liner gloves under the Madison Avalanches working out. They are struggling at 0 degrees, frozen numb! And generally I tend to be pretty tolerant of the cold. Seems like the the Avalanche glove tips aren't quite as windproof as I expected.