[Closed] Want to ditch the pack for good, recommend me a back-pocket "organiser".

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Oh yes, thanks. I have used those but found they get soaking wet on the mtb (inside and out) - unless there is something better available (I used to have a mini topeak one)?

p.s. could you animate that please, Jamie?

Oh, is this for the MTB? Sorry, thought it was for road. I would still lean towards a lightweight pack, maybe one of those ones with the air channels on the back to stop your back getting all sweaty.

....as an aside, you could always put the contents of the saddle bag in a plastic food bag.

Thanks for the suggestion. In my mind I had a vision of some small, wraparound wallet-y thing. Maybe I'll just get some good quality zip lock bags!

Ortlieb, Topeak, Arkel all make water proof seat packs probably others too.

If you want something for your pocket just go to whsmiths and buy a pencil case. People make specialist ones but your don't really need them. You don't need an "organiser" for a co2 pump, tube and multitool.

Thanks for the suggestion. In my mind I had a vision of some small, wraparound wallet-y thing. Maybe I'll just get some good quality zip lock bags!

If you're running a mudguard, then I can't imagine that much water getting to a saddle pack. The only thing I would worry about on a MTB, is it shaking about/possibly working loose.

Maybe something like this:

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Still a pack but what about one of those Wingnut packs that sit lower on your back.

Lezyne Smart Wallet?

jonba - good point, I just like the idea of having everything altogether in my pocket as I am typically disorganised and tend to forget things when I head out on the bike. Will look at waterproof saddle bags and hadn't heard of some of those brands. I was using the Topeak until it got lost/stolen, and before I replace it am considering "alternative solutions". I think an ammo belt would probably be best though, I could get stacks of CO2 cart's in one of those and look like the boss of the trails at the same time.

frogstomp - that thing looks closer to the mark - reminds me that my mobile tends to get a pasting in the back pocket, even though I try to put it in the Wiggle glasses case I got 'free' at Mountain Mayhem.

Stuff used to get really rattled about in the saddle bag too - I tried padding between my multi tool and co2 and that would wear through in a ride.

A bar bag?

[b]Jamie[/b]'s suggested triggered something else

go riding in one of those multi-pocket 'hunting' style gilets a bit like [url= http://www.craghoppers.com/men/jackets/nosilife-sherman-gilet.html ]THIS[/url]
Lots of spaces for knicky-knacky-knoodles 🙂

That's brilliant. Unfortunately I can't afford £70.

[url= http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.Xmulti+pocket+gilet&_nkw=multi+pocket+gilet&_sacat=0&_from=R40 ]CHEAPER ONES[/url] 8)

or were you being sargasmic?

Ortlieb's waterproof seatpack works really well- it can be a wee bit rattly as it's a box rather than a bag, you need to pack it well but otherwise it's spot on and absolutely waterproof. I've got one on my commuter, all the kit in there has been through several scottish winters of commutes and it's all good as new.

Helpfully, the ideal things to stop the contents rattling are innertubes and haribo.

could go one further and get some labels made for each pocket 😆

I wasn't being sarcastic, although I think I might find that somewhat heavy and sweaty on the bike!

Thanks Northwind, will take a look at the Ortlieb. As running tubeless a spare innertube is an essential item (which wouldn't fit in the Topeak)!!
Actually as I've just gone 29er I don't even have any spare tubes in the correct size - I'll just use those anchovy things as padding.

Actually I think I got that idea from some marketing/promo shot I saw from camelbak a few years ago ... (off to google a bit more)

I've got the bontrager Co2 Air Pack, fits 2 cartridges and tyre levers as well as a mini lezyne multi tool

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I hate wearing a pack, to such an extent that a key element to my next frame purchase will be a sensible bottle cage mount (not as easy as it sounds on quite a few enduro type bikes).

I have a Lezyne saddle bag (another complication for one to work with a dropper post) that I can get a tube, gas, multi tool, brake pads, split link & spare geaar cable in. I cane force the van key in too, and phone just goes in pocket.

Sealy sandwich bag for all the stuff you don't want to get wet & it works fine 🙂

I got a Topeak Wedge Drybag.

Completely waterproof and in my medium I can fit a spare 29er tube, multitool, tubeless anchovies, tyre lever, tyre boot and my house keys.

http://www.hargrovescycles.co.uk/bags-racks/saddle-handlebar-bags/topeak-drybag-wedge-with-strap-2976.html

tubeless anchovies

Is that why inner tube air smells fishy?

As rOcKeTdOg posts, Jandd frame bag, fits everything for under £45, got 3 of these and ace;

Don`t say you cannot afford £45!

[url= http://www.jandd.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=FFP ]Jandd frame bag[/url]

Use a lezyne caddy sack when out on the road bike. Big enough for a tube, co2, tool, some levers and a few extra bits. Sized nicely to fit in a jersey pocket (I think I have the medium sized one) and I don't really notice it once I'm out on a ride. Doesn't do the organising bit but I don't think I'd want it to.

I've got a lezyne pouch thing (came free with a pump). Works pretty well - if I pack it well enough, it fits all my road stuff (multitool, tube, chain tool, some cash and a chain link), and fits in a jersey pocket. I might try and make a similar one from duct tape (a la those duct tape wallets) for the mountain bike.

Posh option. Sadly it's team sky!

http://www.rapha.cc/team-sky-essentials-case

or, if you can live with a second http://www.jandd.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=FFP2NDS

or speak to this lady, I'm thinking of asking her to make exactly what your after

[url] http://www.beerbabe.co.uk/ [/url]

or one of these

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So a smaller version of this then ?

http://www.beerbabe.co.uk/ourshop/prod_2835483-Tool-Roll.html

[img] http://www.beerbabe.co.uk/ourshop/prod_2835483-Tool-Roll.html [/img]

http://www.alpkit.com/shop/cart.php?target=product&product_id=17046&category_id=324

you mean this 😉

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yip, that is exactly what I meant, just need to get some sizes and then I was going to mail you Judy.

Leyzne pouch does the job for me.

How about a Rapha essentials case , 😀

http://www.rapha.cc/essentials-case

Looks good value, and has Bon courage printed on it! In pink! and has a zip! Not only that but Cav uses one so its an absolute winner!

Look up specialized swat stuff, attach to bottom of bottle cage...don't know aboout the price though..chain tool in stem cap ...etc

I use a top peak saddle pack, with everything in it in re-sealable freezer bags. Keeps them dry even when the pack is soaking.

I rarely use a hydration pack. I just use a small topeak saddlebag with tools wrapped in a re-sealable plastic sandwich bag. Pump goes in back pocket of my jersey. If i need to carry more gear for longer / winter rides i use a frame bag i bought from rose bikes for about £10.

I can understand the benefits of hydration packs but i see cyclists on my local trails who look like they are going hiking for a week their packs are that big.

I use one of these: http://www.theomm.com/products/pouches?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=20&category_id=6

It can hold:
* small pump
* tube, levers
* trail tool, select spares (brake pads, chain links)
* gel or 2
* lightweight jacket such as a Paclite or roadie shell
* keys
* phone

I run hot on a bike so prefer back unencumbered if poss. I'll move up to a pack if I need to carry spare layers. The bag goes straight in the pack so no repacking needed.

Thanks all for the wealth of suggestions - there are several "goers" amongst them. I actually spotted the thread about "Beerbabe" last night and sent her a message. The tool wallet thing looks really good although a trifle large for a jersey pocket. I sent her a message and it seems as though she is working on something! I'll keep you all updated as am interested to see what she comes up with.

Great, that saves me emailing her.

TBH a slightly larger version of this would be ideal.

The TransAlper Camera / Phone Case

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Following email from Moki & comments from Vortexreacing, I've made this & added it to the website:
http://www.beerbabe.co.uk/ourshop/prod_2840540-Mini-Tool-Roll.html

Another vote for the rapha essentials case. That holds:

Chain tool
Allen tool
Tyre levers
Co2 inflator and cartridges
Spoke key
Spare brake pads
Puncture kits

In the opposite pocket I have a mini pump and a tube and maybe a bar or gel etc, middle pocket has arms warmers and or gillet depending on conditions. Works well for me!

Third bottle cage with a storage bottle? Zefal gizmo or similar to get the extra bottle bosses?

I'm a big fan of ditching the pack for pretty much all types of riding.

by eck that was quick Judy 😀

order on it's way, together with a phone case.

http://www.beerbabe.co.uk/ourshop/prod_2840540-Mini-Tool-Roll.html
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This is the kind of thing I want! That was certainly quick.

Just for reference- sports pursuit website have the lezyne organiser thing for £18: http://www.sportpursuit.com/sales/lezyne-collection/smart-wallet-loaded-black

Just to chuck another suggestion on, late or not. Alpkit mission packs work for me- http://www.alpkit.com/shop/cart.php?target=product&product_id=16555&category_id=250

Smallest one makes a good pouch for puncture related junk, emergency co2 spare bits of chain, etc. Stick it in the next size up with a mini pump, tool, anything else you fancy, fits a jersey pocket nicely.

Thanks riklegge and swanny - both of those are great suggestions. I have ordered the Beerbabe one as it would have been rude not to after she created it in a day!

http://www.wheelies.co.uk/p374/Genuine-Innovations-Tyre-Repair-and-Inflation-Wallet-Repair-Kit.aspx?utm_source=googleps&source=googlesearch&gclid=CMXeiuXV0LkCFUXJtAodcB0Amg

http://bontrager.com/model/07331

I have both of these and they are both quite handy. The bontrager might be better suited to road bike though

Seat pack. I have a cube one that's ok in the filth and I wrap the more sensitive innards. I also had one of those topeak ones but found the shape a little awkward/narrow for mtb tubes. Fine for the road bike though.

Couldn't care less about the pack getting filthy and wet on a ride. It only gets opened every half dozen rides. I get more worried about cow poo getting splattered on my water bottle!!!

Had the Lezyne pack (Medium). Great size, but the velcro is so strong it eventually pulls the seals apart. Ordered a beerbabe special which has a wrap instead.

£45 for what is essentially a pencil case? Jesus wept.
[url= http://item.mobileweb.ebay.co.uk/viewitem?itemId=290695489731 ]Cheapo Pencil Case[/url]

What about a fuel tank that attaches to the stem/top tube. This is large Topeak jobbie for around £30 but there are heaps of styles. Ive got one for bikepacking but it's now a permanent fixture as its a lot more convenient than a saddle pack and doesn't get covered in mud. Its big enough for a big volume tube, multitool, 2x CO2 canisters, phone, keys and a few other bits.

[img] http://www.topeak.com/mediafiles/products/4749/ [/img]

What about a BDU 'pocket' organiser?

Both SpecOps and Maxpedition do a range of sizes now (as I dare say do other manufacturers).

Made of a generic 'cordura' material, so only kinda water-resistant, but certainly very tough.

Just got the new mini tool roll and a custom phone case/wallet from Judy at beerbabe, turned them around in 2 days!!!!

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superb quality, price and service

ta Judy.

Little resealable poly bags. Compress tube/tubes pop in, squeeze out air and seal.
Money and phone in the same.
Pump and jacket/gilet in centre pocket.

29er tubes are big, so I use one of those funky velcro straps to attach a tube and levers permanently to the seat post. Leaves plenty of pocket space.

Ohh....just bought a beerbabe one!