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The ex British Gas van looks superb...
That's just a smidgen more than i'd ideally like to pay.
But as it's just a copy and paste from my forum, i thought i'd lob the info up on where we are.
Funnily this isn't the same place we were last night as Mrs Weeksy threw the blockers on Plan A last night, along with a mate who told me the older Transit are both 5 speed and rusty, the MOT history had several reports of corrosion, but not structural, which makes me think she's arguably correct on the older...
SO the big fella above was out.... partly because the expensive one was sold, the cheaper one wasn't as nice but was priced better... but was a Cat S.
So then jumped into a rabbit hole of, if but maybe and ended up thinking of an older Transit due to how much less.
Then [mention]Couchy[/mention] pinged me about it being a 5 speed and potentially prone to corrosion (which the MOT history then showed up too), along with Mrs Weeksy saying no due to lack of mod-cons.
So i'm now sitting with a short watch list
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/van-details/202211181806759?fromSavedAds=true&advertising-location=at_vans
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Transit Custom, decent miles, good spec, slightly high on price, it's a company owned by a mate who we spend NYE with each year, but i don't think he'll be offering a massive discount as i don't think they have the margin these days.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/van-details/202212062327361?fromSavedAds=true&advertising-location=at_vans
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Another Transit Custom, slightly lower miles, slightly lower price, but also is the LWB version.
The last one is a minor curve ball. But only a little. Partly because, well, i really did like the Vito. Despite it having it's issues, if it hadn't had them it would've been a no-brainer. But it did miss out in the 'security' context as it was Windowed in the back meaning leaving £10,000 of MTBs in there when out riding wasn't the best plan.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/van-details/202210130679958?fromSavedAds=true&advertising-location=at_vans
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This I do like... but it's slightly lower than the transit, although possibly longer than the grey one?
If I had to pick from the 3 it would be the middle one. Its blue and also LWB which will give you a bit more room in the back.
We have the 2.2 6 speed manual in the camper. Came with the 155hp set up but its pushing out a bit more than that now.
Transit Customs above - at least being the older 2.2 you're spared the worry surrounding the wet belt degradation of the later 2.0 engine. 2.2 is euro5 if that makes a difference to where you're likely to be driving (2.0 is euro6). The British Gas van posted earlier would be approaching needing a wet belt replacement which is a £800ish job at an independent (nearer £1500 at Ford dealer).
They're a nice van to drive, no complaints from me. Mine's a 2.0 130bhp L2 H1 double cab, so a much smaller load area than a van without the extra row of seats. Lack of headroom to stand in the back is a PITA when trying to get into or out of a wetsuit, but at the time we bought I was garaging the van overnight hence needed 2mtres max height.
But I can't help thinking for that sort of price you'd get a hell of a lot more van going to next size bigger, e.g. https://www.autotrader.co.uk/van-details/202212012175827
LWB for me every day. When it comes to mileage, if they're within 10k of each other I'd think of them as the same.
I've got an XLWB Viano, so not using as a van, more a nice big people carrier for camping and the like, the extra length means you have to pick parking spaces a bit better than you would in a car but other than that I don't really notice it. Space inside is what you need, so unless you're going for height, length has to be the overiding factor. Get a SWB and you'll be gutted when you run out of floor space.
But I can’t help thinking for that sort of price you’d get a hell of a lot more van going to next size bigger,
I think as some others have pointed out, there's long and there's MASSIVE.. in terms of parking at venues, even getting to some of them on the tight nadgery back lanes, think proper goat tracks in North Wales for say Caersws and Rhyd-y-Felin, they're horrible lanes in anything, let alone throwing in a massive monster van and for the majority of the time we wouldn't use the massiveness of the big one. It's then just a bit massive, a bit cumbersome etc.
So i think LWB in a medium van, rather than LWB in a large van is the way forward.
i'd check the size of the expanded ulez before buying anything euro 5. Its basically the entire of the inside of the m25 that's blocked from access. Might not be an issue, but it might make resale tricky
LWB 2.2 custom looks good, ulez issues aside.
I had a chat with my local mechanic about what to replace my van with eventually and his view was that the 2.2 was a good shout. He also said that issues that were coming through now were with the lowered powered ones, so get a cheaper 125ps and then get it up to 165ps or so and that would improve things. I can't remember the actual reason why more power is more reliable.
Are the lower powered engines the same as the higher powered engines but with less oomph? If so, more power sounds like it would work, but if the more powerful engines have different bits/parts/config then more power on the lower block probably won't fix the potential issues.
(Spoken from someone who doesn't really know anything about engines)
I think 125/155ps are the same engines from the factory.
Apologies, been away at https://www.anchorvans.co.uk/
Which is funnily enough where [mention]dern[/mention] bought his from too.
As i've said before, my mate own the place, so we get a bit of leeway in discussions and freedom to be a pain.
So he's got a SWB Custom, we tried that out for sizing and fitting.
It fits pretty well actually... No worries in terms of space.
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We also tried a bigger Transit size which was MWB and Higher Top like the grey one above... Whilst it gives 'more' I'm not really sure how much more it gives in term of realistic functionality day to day. So you can stand up to load the bike... but that's 30s of your time. It's not like we'll be having BBQs in the van or working on the bike in there, that sort of stuff would be in the gazebo.
We also tried out a Trafic, but the seat space for 3 people was tighter in the Trafic so that was taken as a NO from the wife as we'll be putting 3 people in to Scotland more than once next year. The Transit Custom isn't exactly overflowing in the cabin with tonnes of room, but that's the thing with a van, they can only be what they can be... we either accept it, or keep the car lol.
So there was a minor issue with the Transit that it was missing wheel nuts, but i spoke to my mate who told them
"just fix it, even if you need to take the wheels off another van"
So he's giving us the SWB for the weekend to try out and test. He's sorted all the insurance etc, so we can borrow it and bring it back Monday, making a decision from there.
We then noticed they have a LWB Custom, but that one is out of our budget, threw the bike in it and yeah it gives more space, about 30" longer I'd hazard at a guess.. Which would kinda make it better for things like the BBQ, but in truth, both the SWB and LWB could work well enough for me and the lad .
So we'll try it out, give it a run up to FoD this weekend for racing and see where we are from there. It'll also give us a few hours testing with putting various loads into it and all the stuff we'd need on a weekends race.
So you can stand up to load the bike… but that’s 30s of your time.
I'd pay to see you load 4 bikes and all your kit in 30 seconds....
As a long term van owner being able to stand up and change clothes inside a dry van when it's pissing down or freezing is worth the extra cost . You'll be in and out of the the thing loads of times while your loading and unloading- it soon gets tiresome having to bend your neck or stoop each time .
Cant see the blue one in the link now, has some one on here bought it 🤔
Nice and clean that. Be good to have it for the weekend and see how it all works.
Personally I'd still be tempted by the LWB, as I reckon, unless you're gonna rack it all out or put a nice big high level shelf in. Its all about the floor space.
Cant see the blue one in the link now, has some one on here bought it
Dunno, but apparently it sold last night.... which is a shame as arguably i'd own it by now lol
But i'll be buying a Custom from my mate as he's looked after us giving us the van for the weekend, so even if it takes a couple of weeks to sort a LWB (or buy the SWB) then he deserves my business 🙂
As a long term van owner being able to stand up and change clothes inside a dry van when it’s pissing down or freezing is worth the extra cost .
This appears to be down to personal preference/priorities, and possibly height.
At 5ft 8in on a good day, I don't mind my standard height van at all and I happily tolerate crouching/sitting to change in exchange for fitting under car park barriers.
Though I usually get changed behind my van using the barn doors as a modesty screen anyway.
Good to hear you are going for a proper weekend race test with all your kit.
You can always compromise on things like the bbq. I have a weber go-anywhere as my compact bbq. It lives under a seat in the summer so no floorspace issues.
But you will know by sunday ev whether you need lwb or not.
Good to hear you are going for a proper weekend race test with all your kit.
You can always compromise on things like the bbq. I have a weber go-anywhere as my compact bbq. It lives under a seat in the summer so no floorspace issues.
But you will know by sunday ev whether you need lwb or not.
Yeah i think this weekend will be perfect to try stuff. We'll spend the afternoon after school tomorrow trying various options, plans and tests. Things like BBQ, well they're not THAT essential. Pearce and Nationals have catering on site usually, so the BBQ is just my little idyllic thoughts of racing and weekends away, but i'm sure the reality is often different 🙂
It's not like we're new to weekends away having done it countless times with motorbike trackdays, but it is a little different with MTB stuff as we're a bit newer to that.
We'll learn a lot by Monday though 😀
I think you'll be happy with the custom, they're a nice van. We've a lwb hi top at work, the boss went mad when he specced it so it's got climate, cruise, sat nav etc. It's a nice place to be and I'd have been quite happy with one if I hadn't found the Vito first.
What about this?
Or this beast 😎
Things like BBQ, well they’re not THAT essential.
but you can buy all sorts of shapes of BBQ, so you can be flexible. You've lots of requirements, it maybe worth making a list and sorting into must have to nice to have, and see what that throws up now you've had a chance to throw a bike in the back and know the shape and size you're dealing with.
but you can buy all sorts of shapes of BBQ, so you can be flexible. You’ve lots of requirements, it maybe worth making a list and sorting into must have to nice to have, and see what that throws up now you’ve had a chance to throw a bike in the back and know the shape and size you’re dealing with.
Absolutely.
Tomorrow will tell us even more as I'll have all the bikes, kit and van in one place.
One thing I am looking at is
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/363693810240
On the bbq front the Weber go anywhere is nice and compact and cooks well. I’ve got the charcoal one but they also do a gas one. Would tuck in a corner of the van much better than a big thing.
This was/is the only other contender at the moment. Although i'm still thinking the Custom will win.
But it'll be interesting whether we go LWB or SWB Custom in the long-run. But if we decide to go bigger and my mate can't source one, then this certainly looks the part at the moment.
https://www.swscommercials.co.uk/cars/ford/transit/290trend2.2125l2h2mwb/790153/
Higher miles than Mrs Weeksy would like, but condition being King, this sure looks a sweet piece of kit. My lad is more excited than me about tonight and getting home from school and seeing a van parked here. I'm not quite sure why a van is cooler, but it seems it is 😀
Road Tax (yeah, I know... ) 25o quid. Is that a 50mph van?
Tax is generic for vans as far as i know. It's a commerical vehicle fixed tariff.
Don't think it's restricted, what makes you think that (i may have missed something)
Higher miles than Mrs Weeksy would like
It's 2015 reg so it's done what 13K a year? That not exactly a hard life for a diesel van is it?
it did miss out in the ‘security’ context as it was Windowed in the back meaning leaving £10,000 of MTBs in there when out riding wasn’t the best plan.
Hmmm. Be careful with assuming a windowless is somehow secure. There are occasional posts on here about numpties leaving vans of bikes outside hotels etc and losing the lot.
Given how much you post on here, and that people will be able to see what's in your van when you're at the race then... People will have a pretty good exact detail of what's on offer... Privateer, 141, online,XT, fits 5'10" 55kg kid etc etc.
Giant Fury times two, one with x Fusion etc
Perhaps get a floor lock
PS +1 for LWB
It’s 2015 reg so it’s done what 13K a year? That not exactly a hard life for a diesel van is it?
Women/people/Mrs Weeksy see 100k and it's an immediate :O :O :O
It's just a knee-jerk that comes from 20 years ago with cars that fell apart at 100k. I know loads of people who'd react exactly the same way.
Hmmm. Be careful with assuming a windowless is somehow secure. There are occasional posts on here about numpties leaving vans of bikes outside hotels etc and losing the lot.
Indeed, it's something we've considered, but it's as much about the van sitting in a DH car-park with 2 bikes on a rack, rather than in the van. Sure someone 'could' in theory pilfer them out of the locked, but it'd be fairly conspicuous with so many people about.
Re security, I’d not even leave my packed lunch in the back of a Transit (or any panel van tbh) without additional deadlocks fitted. They’re all surprisingly easy to get into.
Despite their popularity, no one could pay me to own a custom. I had one for a month whilst my van way being repaired and I found it a hateful thing.
I had one for a month whilst my van way being repaired and I found it a hateful thing
Go on.... that's an interesting one... I'd love to know why.. Maybe i'll find out later today as to why.
What vans are not hateful ?
Don’t think it’s restricted, what makes you think that (i may have missed something)
It's not restricted. It's law.
https://www.bigvanworld.co.uk/blog/speed-limit-rules-for-vans-and-commercial-vehicles/#
Whatever van you get, fit some kind of beefy anchor to the floor and lock the bikes up. Vans are targeted wherever they go and you can open them in seconds. Anywhere you go to ride bikes will have gangs of scrotes looking for easy pickings, especially during busy events.
Sure someone ‘could’ in theory pilfer them out of the locked, but it’d be fairly conspicuous with so many people about.
Completely wrong assumption - the number of vehicles getting 'accessed' in car parks and places where people just wander on by is crazy...almost no-one will pay any attention to someone trying to get in to 'their' van. A sad state of affairs nowadays but no-one seems bothered about questioning why a vehicle is being accessed without opening the doors with the key.
That silver LWB last posted is a very very clean looking van in the back - either it has been relined or it has been used for the lightest of jobs - looks nice.
Completely wrong assumption
Yeah this. People let their guard down when they're in a place full of people on bikes, as if thieves will be too scared to have a go. So many bikes get nicked in Morzine and Whistler etc. Dozens of the things. Tweed Love was also really bad this year with gangs roaming around campsites. Look what's happened recently at Farmer Johns.
Basically treat them like you would in the garage at home. Big anchor, proper chain, decent locks. Then they'll hopefully move onto the next easy target and you'll only have to replace the van door that was just ripped open, rather than 4 bikes.
EDIT: Kind of related, this just popped up on a group I'm in www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/860440362058041/
@weeksy
That Mk8 full size Tranny is the best van for your requirements. it looks genuine - the floor is only lightly scuffed, the rear arch covers are still in place, the bulkhead is not smashed to bits and the driver's seat bolster is undamaged so it hasn't been used for parcel/multidrop work.
I'd have a good look underneath for rot - especially from the front arches back along then sills but if it was fine then I'd have that van in a heartbeat.
MK8 Trannys are also good in that there are plenty of 'van life' bits for them if you wanted to pimp it up a bit.
if you wanted to pimp it up a bit.
It wont even be allowed into the race car park with those hub caps on
Lots of good info and thoughts. I've been looking at the Pragmasis anchors as they have van specific fitting kits.. So once we decide on a van i can get one ordered up. I'll need to do some research into a grown up to get it fitted though, i'm not sure about drilling through a van floor myself 😀 but i'm sure my mates place can sort that.
You know those massive queues for getting into a muddy/rutted race venue. Yeah there may be a bmw at the head, but there will also be a lowered, pimped van attempting to navigate ruts. Don't be that van driver.
No stickers either.
lowered, pimped van attempting to navigate ruts
You know me better than that 🙂 Couldn't be further from being me.
but there will also be a lowered, pimped van attempting to navigate ruts.
But if I don't make my T6 look like a BTCC car how will everyone know I'm a Rad-Dad?
By the "One Life" sticker on the tailgate of course.
You know me better than that 🙂 Couldn’t be further from being me.
Very true! Keep at it your way weeksy, nothing better.
By the “One Life” sticker on the tailgate of course.
Mrs Weeksy may prefer the "one wife, livid" version, seeing how the budget has already been blown apart in the last few pages.
Couldn’t be further from being me.
It's the boy's van though really. How can he possibly succeed with negative energy being generated by a van that's still at stock ride height?!
Grabber MT tyres will justify the ride height and increase the rad-dadness.
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Grabber MT tyres will justify the ride height and increase the rad-dadness.
ooohhh nice alt approach there. Snorkel and random ladder up the back also required
👍 Now you're talking!
One bit of advice not to be ignored, do not put any mtb stickers on it anywhere as you will only be advertising what's in it, Thieves may look anyway but will def look if there's a sticker telling them what may be inside. Also fit deadlocks and when you park up strap the sliding door shut so it can't be folded down and then reverse up to something if possible. It's all you can do even if taking the bikes out into a hotel room 🙂
So onto the report.... I REALLY like it. Sure it's been used, sure it's got more marks than the Kuga has... but hey, it's a van.
Does it drive like a car, no, it drives like a van, but it does drive like a nice van at that. 🙂
Heated seat is a dream today.. air con.... DAB ... heated windscreen. Didn't get to test the Cruise out, but it's the same setup at the Kuga, so pretty familiar to me.
It goes along well, the clutch is nice, gear changes are nice. Brake pedal is a bit high, but that's van driving for you instead of cars. It's interesting with certain T junctions locally that in a van you need to re-think the approach angles etc.
Once i got it parked up i started throwing the bikes in..
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It takes the 3 bikes, would take a 4th easily enough, with enough space for the bike washer, the riding kit, kit bags, toolbox etc.. Sure, there's not a TONNE of space other than that.... but there's 'enough' that i'd get anything else in i could consider for sure..
My thoughts are leading me towards "Do i honestly need any bigger" and i'm struggling with the 'when' i'd actually need more.
it did miss out in the ‘security’ context as it was Windowed in the back meaning leaving £10,000 of MTBs in there when out riding wasn’t the best plan.
Hmmm. Be careful with assuming a windowless is somehow secure. There are occasional posts on here about numpties leaving vans of bikes outside hotels etc and losing the lot.
Given how much you post on here, and that people will be able to see what’s in your van when you’re at the race then… People will have a pretty good exact detail of what’s on offer… Privateer, 141, online,XT, fits 5’10” 55kg kid etc etc.
Giant Fury times two, one with x Fusion etcPerhaps get a floor lock
PS +1 for LWB
Very much this above. Maybe I'm risk averse working in insurance, but I'm surprised how much intel you are posting on a public forum about your bike inventory (in your words £10K worth) and where it will be. I'd like to think that all those people who care to take an interest in reading STW are law-abiding citizens, but I suspect not.
The only practical advice I can offer, having dealt with hundreds of thefts from vans of plant and tools, assume that the van is not ever locked and any lock or security you do buy, the scrotes have probably already worked out how to defeat it.
And get good Insurance.
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Long isn't that much longer really then.
My main security advice is to make your van look as normal and non-flashy as possible (same with garages), no stickers on it or bike related stuff left in the cab. If it’s parked in a Tesco car park then no one knows it’s full of nice toys. My current Custom just looks like a rich middle class family wagon rather than a van full of bikes. And none of my old ones had anything advertising any of the sports I do.
And biking events there’s not much you can do as they’ll assume all the vans have expensive toys in them.
Fancy tyres, wheels, stickers, etc will just advertise and sttrsct attention.
The bog standard white panel van is invisible. Even traffic wardens don’t bother ticketing you half the time as they often assume you’re a delivery driver or unloading.
White van + hazard lights. Ultimate stealth vehicle.
Nah, it is always handy to have a bit more length...
Long isn’t that much longer really then.
you can do a lot with a bit of extra length (genuinely, does make a fair difference)
Just tell Mrs Weeksy she has a new job as a security guard for a MTB team 😀
How long before the long van gets swapped for a shorter one as it turns better?😉
If you can get a longer one without blowing the budget I’d go for it. The only reason I have an SWB is a) because they’re harder to park in towns and cities, b) the wife has to drive it and she doesn’t like parking bigger vans and c) we’d already spent just over £30k on the SWB and couldn’t really justify the extra.
If you can get a longer one without blowing the budget I’d go for it.
Waiting to see what my mate can find/source, he's put an offer in on 2 LWBs with the intention of me having 1 of them, but depends if they come off or not. We've got a little bit of a timescale on things as we've got events/days of coaching upcoming and the Kuga is being collected Mon/Tues. So i need something either soon, or borrow next weekend too. But that's for him to worry about. At the end of the day, if this van gets to be mine, i won't be unhappy with it 🙂
ok so who bought this one.
I was expecting you to show 2 options (big and small) and then right at the last minute buy something completely different (like a horse box or American bus) at the last minute 😜.
For personal use you can’t really go wrong with most modern vans as you won’t be loading them up heavy and not me giving them a hard life.
I just think that from personal experience the Customs are pretty good and (touch wood) I never had a problem with my old one (2013 and 2.2/125hp) or the new one (2021 2.0/170hp) and you get more/better for your money than a VW.
PS love my heated seats and windscreen (both things I thought were frivolous 3 years ago!!!)
Enjoy the van life
Is that the one you were going to be testing for the weekend? Generally the approach is test then buy
Wonder if that would work in a high enough van 🤔
It would be fine until you started driving then it would sound like a cheap drumkit.
Is that the one you were going to be testing for the weekend? Generally the approach is test then buy
Me? No, I was/am testing the Custom..
The boy gave it approval tonight after driving to get Chinese.
Me, not him.
It would be fine until you started driving then it would sound like a cheap drumkit.
🤣 or you could just strap them up 🤦🏻♂️ 🤣
Seriously weeksy, back off.. buy a LWB 🙂
Me? No, I was/am testing the Custom..
Gotcha, apparently not been paying enough attention
I had a 2.2 Limited Custom until recently. Really nice van, good to drive, fairly practical, easy to work on and was reliable for me.
If you get one there's a few security upgrades you'll want to do sooner rather than later. The drivers door lock can be opened with a pair of molegrips - replace this lock with a 'hi key' lock that can't be done this way.
Additionally the side door has a known weakpoint where crims punch a small hole through with a screwdriver and can open it easily. A company produce a metal cage that goes over the lock mechanism to prevent this approach working.
(Both of these are DIY jobs if you are reasonably competent.)
To be honest the price on that looks a little spicy. I sold mine with slightly less miles, a year newer for £13250 (no VAT) about 6 months ago, and it had a part camper conversion, fully insulated, solar panels, fridge, single rotating passenger seat etc. - and this took 6 weeks to sell advertised on both ebay and autotrader, so it wasn't vastly underpriced.
I appreciate it's a dealer and they need a margin but they're not exactly giving that away, hope you can bargain a deal.
To be honest the price on that looks a little spicy
It's not the cheapest, but it is backed by a mate owning it, plus the fact having driven it i know it's 'right' and not likely to fall apart next week. There's cheaper, but private sales, or more miles or worse condition. For the spec, the miles and condition, it's not badly priced... but no, it's not the cheapest out on the market i'll admit.
How long before the long van gets swapped for a shorter one as it turns better?😉
How long before we're debating the merits of bigger vs smaller wheels, or the 'compromise' option of mulleted van?? 😱😂
Van worked lovely on the day... Sadly my MTB never as i lost a bolt... sadly for me it was a game changer bolt which can't be sourced on the day as it's very very specific to the bike.
But anyway, the van.
It's a little lumpy when first starting at 6.30am in -3deg.... But soon gets to sounding OK in 20s. It's a fairly ticky/noise/diesel engine, but that's a Transit Custom for you.. well, it's actually a van as we know.
Everything works perfectly though.
It does have a slightly ticky/tappy noise on right handers, which Couchy tells me is CV joint potentially, but the van wasn't prepped for sale yet, so that'll get done before i collect. But other than that... no issues at all with it for me. Drives as it should 34-36mpg but a chunk of that was uppy downy back roads and through the gearbox... i think i'll see closer to 40s on a decent run.
I even provided an uplift service for the boy and his team-mate who got 3 full runs with a quick uplift in the van after they'd been sessioning the trails earlier.
Excellent 😀
I even provided an uplift service for the boy and his team-mate who got 3 full runs with a quick uplift in the van after they’d been sessioning the trails earlier.
Excellent 😀
And that's what it's all about 👍🏻 cracking stuff...shame about the Slayer
3 kids in a transit? Don’t know how lucky they are, we used to shuttle FOD 6 up in a Toyota Hiace or similar Nissan back before Fly-up started. Can only dream about the luxury of all that space!
Back when OP said they were off to buy something unexpected I thought we were going to see them with an old Asda delivery van. Decent size beer and bbq meat fridge at least.
It’s a bit small Weeksy - look at this opportunity:
Don’t know how lucky they are, we used to shuttle FOD 6 up in a Toyota Hiace or similar Nissan back before Fly-up started
INSIDE the vehicle?! You don’t know how lucky you were, we used to be hanging onto the car belonging to whatever driver cared least about their vehicle
Back when OP said they were off to buy something unexpected
I don't even recall what either of them 2 we're now. But clearly I didn't buy them.