[Closed] Vallelujah

Not this year. Would have had it been at Yair again but not fussed about it being at GT. Trails were running superbly at the weekend and another 10 days of no rain would be perfect

Moi.

No rain for the next 10 days is quite feasible, but then expect a deluge of biblical proportion before the event itself kicks off.

expect a deluge of biblical proportion before the event itself kicks off.

It's usually bone dry practice then biblical rain overnight rendering practice pointless

I'm going too. Hopefully be slightly less muddy than last year, although being based at glentress this time that shouldn't be difficult.

Dry weather but gale force winds is traditional.

My first Enduro.
Never ridden natural trails in Peebles either.

Trial of fire.

I'm in . I really enjoyed it last year at selkirk so was a bit disappointed but if the course is as fun as the last king of the hill it will be a great weekend . The last email said the last stage will finish I'm the event village so I am assuming it is the final descent on the gt7 course which is a great bit of trail .

I am assuming it is the final descent on the gt7 course which is a great bit of trail

Im in but seriously unfit. 1st enduro and i think I'm going to struggle.

Bob, is Yair worth exploring?

Bob, is Yair worth exploring?

Definitely. Only been twice but it was brilliant. I loved the race stages last year

Yair's kind of fiddly to explore, mind. Some awesome riding up there but I've still not figured out how to make a ride of it.

I'll be there in some capacity, either riding or helping.

We are off up on the Friday, Abigale and her boyfriend Ed are racing. I have another foot operation on the Thursday.

You will be able to reconise me as the one in a pot and surgical stockings.

It cant be as wet as the Grizdale Enduro in January, Abigale is still drying out.

Is it ok to race in normal helmets or are full face compulsory

Trail helmets are fine for tweedlove events.

Me and OH are down for it too.

I'm in. Missed out on it last year so missed the Yair mud slide.

An unfortunate withdrawal for me - didn't realise it was on Easter Sunday 😳
Enjoy all - will be belting in the Tweed with a bit of dry weather.

I wasnt going to bother with vallelujah this year but just been informed my other half is going to home to Belfast that weekend so tried to enter and on the waitlist :/, hoping there may be some new off piste trails than the usual Gt off piste

Anyone know what to expect? How many KM do I need to be fit for? How many stages?

The king of the hill last year which started at glentress to was about 25 miles . There were 4 stages and 2 big climbs plus a couple of smaller climbs to get to the stages .

I'm in. Really enjoyed the mudfest last year ?

I'm in, really looking forward to it! Will see you all up there

groundskeeperwilly - Member
Anyone know what to expect? How many KM do I need to be fit for? How many stages?

budget for 20-25 miles and 4000-5000ft of climbing.. you wont be far away at that

Really? Thought this was billed as a mellow enduro, a bit less intense than others....

Last year it was 16.5 miles with 2900ft climbing, although that was missing a stage due to high winds. The last two Scottish Open Enduros (also Tweedlove) were,19 miles / 3,500ft; 24.5 miles / 3800ft.

Only more mellow than the International, it can still be a big day out

Thanks lucky7500 and legend. Looks like I misinterpreted it a fair bit (as have others I've been speaking to!)

The old king & queen of the hill used to be quite a mellow enduro, I really enjoyed it, I've not done it for two years and I think it's maybe a bit more gnar now.

That first round of the SES looked proper nuts though...

I'm there doing First Aid. My honest advice to you is to not hurt yourself, or, if you do, check it isn't me [s]bodging you back together[/s] administering first aid.

I think there might be one or two surprises, cant see this myself but have just read that work is currently ongoing on Trail Fairy Plan for Vallelujah,the quagmire from the mast, It was a waste of time at the EWS and cant see it being much different now, about 6 inches deep in mud from top to bottom and personally I havent been down it since, I did ride it before EWS right enough and it was excellent, maybe a bit to Gnarly for Vallelujah but who knows :/

the old king & queen of the hill used to be quite a mellow enduro

Every year I look at it and think it's harder than the last, but it never is. Last year was perhaps a bit more technical than previous years, but even back in 2013 with Cademuir in there was plenty of challenging stuff.

Also worth bearing in mind that the road section can be quite a chunk of that too depending on locations used, last year was paved footpath between GT & Inners, previous to that on the road between GT & Cademuir.

Well forecast is saying no rain between now and then 🙂

Im still taking my shorty tho!

I've just put a shorty on the front - hopefully that'll keep the rain away 🙂

Re trailfairy plan/b side- it's been on the to do list to essentially rebuild it ever since EWS, but there's been no urgency to it, I'd be very surprised if it's in the race, it needs a fair amount of work to stop it turning to porridge when it rains. Could be wrong though. As Fabien Barel said to me, it'll be a good trail when it's finished. (btw, it was delivered to the spec requested!)

(*this is the royal we, I might stay in bed)

tenacious_doug - Member

I think they've been pretty consistent to be honest.

2012 was a far easier course though- hardest stage was broon troot. Don't know about length but it wasn't physically that hard. 2013 was a big escalation

(it was berm baby berm/electric blue, broon troot, spooky-shallow-rave-hitsquad, then the fort descent IIRC. Oh and 2 bastard timed climbs!)

2 bastard timed climbs!

Should be another really good one again! The trails I think will be used are really good. One of them is up there with my favourite trail anywhere, especially when ridden in the wet.

Wont be venturing out of the camp site assuming my foot op goes to plan next Thursday. Leaving all the climbs to the young ones.

@alexsimon, If I remember rightly, there were 6 stages and you dropped your worst 2 from your overall so you had the option of just dawdling up. Pretty interesting format actually but I can't remember how the maths really worked, since some stages were like 2 minutes long and others were huge.

Quite like rules like that - gives it a tactical aspect and maybe a bit of a leveller.
I'm just looking forward to fresh trails tbh!
I haven't done an event since '92 🙂

Here just now. Running lovely. Zorro, trail fairy, zoom or bust and janets brae all out of action because of forestry work though they may open up for next weekend

2012 was a far easier course though- hardest stage was broon troot. Don't know about length but it wasn't physically that hard. 2013 was a big escalation

Did you not marshall it, up at the boundary? Or have I done a STW name/face mixup thing again?

2012 was done on a points system, with your worst stage not counting. IIRC 1st got 1 point, 2nd 2 points and so on, with the person with the lowest points winning.

After that it went to a more standard enduro format.

Did you not marshall it, up at the boundary? Or have I done a STW name/face mixup thing again?

Northwind, think you're thinking of bigdugsbaws who marshalled up top that year.

To be honest this is the type of thing i was expecting/hoping for:

2012 was a far easier course though- hardest stage was broon troot. Don't know about length but it wasn't physically that hard. 2013 was a big escalation

(it was berm baby berm/electric blue, broon troot, spooky-shallow-rave-hitsquad, then the fort descent IIRC. Oh and 2 bastard timed climbs!)

Well without timed climbs....

All these dugs look the same to me!

Oh, we were supposed to be digging on bside at the weekend but that's cancelled so that's looking even less likely as a stage. But you never know. I still say cademuir, it fits the teases. I've not been up there since before it got Forestried but I gather the dh is back in service?

Northwind - Member
All these dugs look the same to me!

Oh, we were supposed to be digging on bside at the weekend but that's cancelled so that's looking even less likely as a stage. But you never know. I still say cademuir, it fits the teases. I've not been up there since before it got Forestried but I gather the dh is back in service?

Did notice that the stuff they'd used to block the link/chute that took you from the blue after spooky wood into brown trout has been significantly cleared. Just a few branches covering it yesterday so a good chance that's in

Did notice that the stuff they'd used to block the link/chute that took you from the blue after spooky wood into brown trout has been significantly cleared. Just a few branches covering it yesterday so a good chance that's in

Most probably same trail used in K&Q then down to bottom of Broon Troot from corner using natural spooky

Cademuir confirmed btw- there's a sign up for exemption of access rights. You lucky people!

Do you have to wear a helmet on the transitions here? I would prefer a full face for the stages but I don't fancy climbing in it.

Do you have to wear a helmet on the transitions here?

Thanks Doug

Yes, the exemption of access rights signs do kind of spoil the guessing game fun ! I was hoping to start some ludicrous rumors via this website, so that game is over.

Word on the street is the theme is 'four corners' so there are going to be stages at GT, Cademuir, Inners and the golfy. Supposed to be 60K+ so bring yer climbing legs

That's not quite right pigyn. First stage will be at Yair

Sorry, 'four corners + an out and back'

If I got to plan events, no one would enter them

Word on the street is the theme is 'four corners' so there are going to be stages at GT, Cademuir, Inners and the golfy. Supposed to be 60K+ so bring yer climbing legs

Not for Vallelujah.

Maybe the International or K&Q though...

legend - Member

First stage will be at Yair

I heard it's a climb, up double decker.

Race details and stage locations are out. 5 stages, 3 in Glentress, aprox 32km overall.

So i guess both the cademuir trails are running now, good stuff, need to hit them soon

Very much looking forward to this now!

If anyone spots an Audi driving, all-the-gear-no-idea, enduro colorway-clad fool on a snot green Giant Reign then say Hi. I'll feel a little less Billy-no-mates then 😀

You need to narrow it down a bit for us prouster 😉

Assuming they let me out of the hospital on Thursday night I will be the one sat in the camp site with a pot on my right foot. Bit peeved that it will be the first time I've been to Glentress and not rode my bike. wont even bee able to wander to the stages to cheer everyone on.

Think I'm marshalling so I'll shout some abuse at you Proutster, it'll be just like old times.

AlexSimon
You need to narrow it down a bit for us prouster

OK, I also sound like a faaaarmer

Northwind
Think I'm marshalling so I'll shout some abuse at you Proutster, it'll be just like old times.

Great! Let me know whereabouts you are and I'll try to throw some straight back - although that involves multitasking and that's usually where things go wrong

Are you marshalling Northwind ? You are not on my list - if you are who I think you are that is. Or Dougie.

You are not on my list

Ouch, does that mean he's not getting in?!

I've not heard anything back but yeah, sent a FB message volunteering for sunday. Passive aggressively asking to be put somewhere fun not marshalling a road junction or some pish, so yo never know, perhaps I'm not wanted 😆

I like the 'what tyres' section 😆

Bottle of red wine and the name of the kiwi prime minister will get you a good spot. Or the new Loretta Lynne album.

Northwind - you are def wanted will email you. You have "know what I am doing" written all over you so will be a start or finish I would think, sorting that all our now.

I thought you were a Julie Andrews man, Steven ??

Variety is the spice of life.

hels - Member

You have "know what I am doing" written all over you

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I am going to this, cannot wait! Ridden Glentress many times but looking forward to discovering some of its hidden trails!

Keep an eye out for a top trail mincer on a bright pink Bronson. Heckling is appreciated!!

*Edit* Speaking of tires, I will be rocking a Shorty up front and a Minion SS oot back. Will I die?

I've been considering the Minion SS out back too, but have stuck with the HRII so far. An enduro might not be the best time to try a tyre for the first time 🙂