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Stop me chasing a lost cause. Bought a set of C2 Sport last summer and have spent on Pads(scindered and compound) Replaced Discs and still get a spungy Several pumps before even anticipating a corner situation, Recently re-installed v-Brakes and nearly averted a face plant on first use Marvelous Stopping power. Please someone tell me to leave well alone as Ive just taken delivery of front Hope C2 Pro setup to clarifie my original purchase wasn't a freak occurrence, still crap but look nice, can i hope for any better?........
Set up and bled properly, the c2 should win hands down.
Why oh why would someone buy a 15 odd years old disk brake.
Surely I'm not that crap, though history does suggest its so. Will if your knowledge is such that proper attention will reap rewards, throw some coin at my local dealer. Cheers
C2 were excellent brakes, the big downside to owning a set now is that spares to keep them working properly are drying up.
C2 were excellent brakes
Except in the Alps, where they were a nightmare due to being a closed system brake.
bwaarp its false economy admit it, went for looks at a throw away price, thanks for your err well ya know.
Just get some cheap Deore's
Were looking at an all or nothing not an alternative. Local dealer allowed me out on a fully shod model and i would still prefer the lock up stopping power of my V-Brakes. Looking to clarify whether my desires exceed my current hardware.
Retro bike build?
C2 for UK was an amazing brake, I had many sets set up for on/off. Loved them.
Had a C2 a few years ago much better than my current Juicy Carbons, more power and better control. Also had a set of xc4's which looked great but could never find the reason for their poor performance replaced piston seals, lever seals, all the copper washers, then discovered I had a tiny pin prick hole in the hose.
These seem to take great effort to grind to a halt when I'm expecting a face plant. some clarification of power and bite would be nice. Will these ever attain lock up power.
Have you adjusted the dial on the top of the lever to move the bite point? Because they won't adjust for pad wear or when the fluid expands you have the dial to move the bite point to counter both scenarios. I had EBC gold pads and the bite was sharp could easily send you over the bars.
Thanks Orange Lad tried it up until it turns no more and still rolls to a stop. Grateful for your history. All indications point towards my inability to bleed. Needed to know the power was there before i handed over cash to someone competent.
Always found the C2 pretty easy to bleed. Does the dial have any effect on the lever? If it doesn't then either there isn't enough fluid in the master cylinder or the seal on that piston connected to the dial has gone.
Mine were powerful enough for my trials days. ie locking up the rear wheel and hopping around
This is set number three and the same spongy feel in all, Pads and seals on caliper and brake replaced. Dial has a noticeable effect and only ever locked up once when going downhill and that was because of fluid expansion, took me twenty minutes to be able to wind it back after cooled down no leaks though. Bled so often i sapped the bleed nipple!
Thank You, Thank You one and all, Concluded my cack handed attempts at bleeding are to blame, though i have my doubts, shall hand it over to our local cycle dealer so i can blame them in future. cheers
If they're functioning correctly, they thave a rock solid lever, definitely not spongey. Did you check the condition of the master cylinder bore before re-sealing it, with the age of the brake it's possible that the bores could be worn, letting air into the system.
Yeah I use some on my commuter, work well, must be the bleed. They use dot fluid too, I trust you have h right stuff!
I found them a complete PITA to bleed but they were excellent brakes when bled properly. Are you sure you haven't got fluid on the pads at any stage as that will ruin the preformance.
As everyone has said, they should be solid and powerful. I can remember being delighted at how easily the front brake would lift the rear wheel and how easy it was to control it when I got mine. Check the slignment of the caliper and that the pads and discs are clean and properly bedded in while you are getting them looked at.
Where abouts are you?
I've had no end of trouble with Hope brakes.I know they are well thought of and customer service is fantastic but we just don't get on. TBH bwaarp's advice of Deore is sound. Fit and forget. Alternatively I do have V-brakes on my SS and once set up properly they more than do the job. Not sure I'd use them for DH or a mudfest but for general trail use they are fine.
The Pro setup purchased this week seems to be settling in. Wondering whether to arse about putting on the sport lever (as i have the set)giving a definitive answer Caliper, Lever, Bleeding or a mixture of all. Grateful for your insight and efforts on my behalf.
I've used Hope C2's for DH. They are really easy to bleed and has a good bite adjuster. Haven't used them in the alps tho.