[Closed] Utility bike life changing stories...

The xrtacycle hasnt, in itself, been life changing. However I do use it fairly regularly when the weather is nice to take the kids to school, although Jr #1 is big enough now to cycle on his own, so the extra frame isnt necessary.

Of far greater impact though was getting the Croozer trailer.

Both Mrs S and I ride a lot and are big outdoors fans so on the arrival of Jr #1 it was fantastic to be able to still do the exploring we love both on holiday and at home. Especially when we spend up to 4wks at a time away in the campervan in France.

This was our first one. It was stolen in France two years ago and so I replaced it straight away for Jr #2. He's now outgrown it and it's now moved on to another STWer who I hope he and little'un get as much use out of it as we did.

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Thanks Stoner... that's another bit of kit to consider now!

mrblobby - I think "life changing" was mentioned on my thread about shopping by bike - http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/shopping-by-bike.
He's still taking sign ups, so sign up, then you'll have to get something 🙂

Thanks DezB shall check that out. Like most though, I'd be worried about leaving, say, a couple of grands worth of Surly chained up outside my local supermarket!

I can confirm Stoners old Croozer's in almost daily use, Hi Mark.
Three days a week I take my 10month old to Nursery and back on the back of my CDF which has a rack and pair of Ortliebs too for work kit and shopping. 4.5miles with the trailer and then 2.5 on top to work, I leave the trailer in the nursery garage during the day.

It also gets used for walks\runs round the village and the forest on the other days too.
I really do try to not use the car unless I can help it.

I've got one of those cheap Bob copies too which I use for large bits that wont go in my panniers. I've pick up a few odd bits ranging from 25kg compost bag from the local garden centre and a new stroller buggy.

The bigger and odder the better (provided it's safe and road worthy), I like the challenge. By the looks of it I'm not the only one with that attitude by the looks of the photo's on the other thread.

Before the Ute I used a trailer. Even through the worst of the Winter we'd tuck them in with blankets etc. Quite often one or both of them would be fast asleep when we got home...

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I'm lucky enough to have been involved a part of their day to day lives that other Dads/Mums dont. My job is 5 mins away. I've never been an avid chaser of the dollar so in weighing up what was important, the ability to do things like the school run etc, won out. Bikes are massive part of my life, I'm never happier than when I'm on two wheels, rain or shine. The Wife, sadly, doesnt share my passion but my lads seem to. If you've young kids, & it can fit in with your lives, then things like trailers, cargo-bikes etc, just make everyday mundane chores another opportunity to have a bit of fun.

FWIW, I use my Pomp constantly for shopping trips - weekly shop with two panniers, trips to all sorts of different retailers for bits and pieces. I have no problem leaving it locked outside different places and don't really worry about it too much. I never leave it for that long, no problems so far.

Can carry a huge amount of stuff on it, can only imagine the possibilities with a Big Dummy or similar!

School run on my big dummy everyday. My boys (5&2 yrs old) absolutely love it.
Yesterday I loaded it up with;
Two kids,two school bags,a massive lock, 4 carrier bags of food, a scooter and a balance bike.
If the family go on a big ride, and the boys get tired, I just throw their bikes in the panniers and they jump on the back of the dummy . Not"life changing" but a fantastic way of getting around.

I'm thinking our new Tandem is about to be pretty life changing for my GF. Mobility and a bit of fitness. It's not even here yet and she is already floating about 10 feet of the floor.

And I can get the shopping on it!

Here's the old wagon (trailer has been upgraded now as the boys got too heavy for my recycling centre trailer)

I'm a stay at home Dad and we're a one car family, so whilst Mrs yunki is at work, this is our sole means of transport during the day..

The only drawback I have discovered is the fighting that can break out when one or the other is crabby, which was ingeniously solved by a mate the other day, who suggested a heavy duty cardboard partition akin to the West Bank in Gaza..

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Thanks all.

I'm lucky enough to have been involved a part of their day to day lives that other Dads/Mums dont. My job is 5 mins away. I've never been an avid chaser of the dollar so in weighing up what was important, the ability to do things like the school run etc, won out. Bikes are massive part of my life, I'm never happier than when I'm on two wheels, rain or shine. The Wife, sadly, doesnt share my passion but my lads seem to. If you've young kids, & it can fit in with your lives, then things like trailers, cargo-bikes etc, just make everyday mundane chores another opportunity to have a bit of fun.

Takisawa2, thanks for that 🙂 Just about sums up my situation too, though luckily the wife also enjoys time on the bike. Took the nipper to nursery today on the back of the bike, was great, just an opportunity to mess about on a bike and have some fun.

If the family go on a big ride, and the boys get tired, I just throw their bikes in the panniers and they jump on the back of the dummy . Not"life changing" but a fantastic way of getting around.

Babyjack, thanks, this may have sold me on one!

Big dummy is increasingly tempting.

We're a one car family too and my wife's usually got it, which is fine by me, although she said she might ride to work tomorrow 😯 8) 4 miles of gravel track through the new forest from one village to another, why wouldn't you?

he usually sleeps about half of the time in the trailer at the moment
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we had nice morning the other day where we went to see the great grandparents and a trip to the library while my wife was at work

Ive got a Yuba Mundo Version1.
I did a short tour up north last year, which is the reason I bought it for because I wanted a bike that would be almost impossible to break on tour no matter what shitty road/path I went along!
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Nightmare path from Glen Lyon to Loch Rannoch.
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Was kinda worth it though, Loch Rannoch.
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When not touring, it is in (80kg or 100kg) training bike mode!
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And over winter, it is in wood collecting mode.
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While I wouldn't say its changed my life, it has certainly made it easier now I no longer have a vehicle.

Lots of people use Mundo's etc for wheeling their kids about ~
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Babies sleeping in trailer pics make me smile 🙂

Sadly my wife can't cycle due to a knee problem, so all this talk of family outings by bike make me very jealous. However, you can get a handcycle adaptation for the front of these:
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which we are very tempted by!

Reading this thread I don't understand why everyone doesn't have an utility bike / trailer 🙂

I'm very jealous of folk who use these type of bikes on a regular basis.

Reading this thread I don't understand why everyone doesn't have an utility bike / trailer

lightman/anyone else, what's that baby seat on the front of the Mundo?

lightman/anyone else, what's that baby seat on the front of the Mundo?

cheers, I like the look of that
not so in the way of your knees as some

Lightman

What was so nightmare-ish about the Glen Lyin to Rannoch path?

And dear lord, how much gear did you take? When you say short, do you mean several months? 😀

Cheers

Sanny

PS Trailers rock. I don't have a utility bike but my Salsa Fargo ticks all the right boxes for me and has been brilliant for carting my little one around.

good thread! used to use a butchers bike for work as an electrician on a RAF station and carried tool boxes etc and an industrial Bain Marie once in the front.... now I'd question doing that guess I've become conditioned to the infernal combustion engine.....

now that we have another little person on the way and for once I can work from home I'll have to look at the whole trailer / utility thing....

I'm hankering for a cargo bike atm, but finances on hold for the present...
However, I can absolutely preach the virtues of a decent trailer set up for kids/cargo!
We got our when Little'un was born, and was used almost daily for the first 18mths of his life (cycle to nursery come rain, shine, or snow!), and now is used less, but still invaluable!

Has carried him, friends, cousins, bikes, tents, food etc etc!

Yes, it's a lot more 'faff' than a cargo bike, and probably can't carry as much, but for a tiddler it's a really comfy, weatherproof solution.

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DrP

cheap Bob copies

Any info on these? I'm in need something for allotment duties.

I, ideally, wanted a trailer to tow our little one in but for a number of reasons this would have been impractical. Now I have an xtracycle converted hardtail and my daughter loves it (doesn't seem to mind whatever the weather which is great). It hasn't been life-changing but it has meant I can continue to not need a car day to day and my daughter seems to be settling into the idea that bikes are normal - so it may be transformational after all. It's bloody heavy and slow on Sheffield's hills, though, so I may have found it even more useful had we lived somewhere flatter.

Thanks all. DrP love the photos. Thinking one of those Coozer trailers at the moment. Would really like an xtracycle but they no longer have an European importer and the cost of importing looks bloody steep.

Any photos of child and dog in a trailer? Would quite like to ride out to a park with boy and dog. May need some sort of partition though.

Sanny - Member

Lightman

What was so nightmare-ish about the Glen Lyin to Rannoch path?

And dear lord, how much gear did you take? When you say short, do you mean several months?

Cheers

Sanny

While the path would've been not to bad for a mtb or a lighter bike, for my bike (about 85+kg) it was terrible because of the rocks and boulders that were sticking out of the ground. I was getting bounced around all over the place making traction very difficult, and because some of the sections were over 20%, it was just not the best place for that bike.
I actually broke one of my 48 rear spoke on the section!
Oh, and it was during the short hot spell, so it was around 25c and with no wind either, I was dripping with sweat!

While I did take a lot of gear, I think it just looks more when its all in one bag (one bag was much cheaper than 4x waterproof panniers), plus I was planning on being self sufficient for my 3/4 day cycle up to Rothes, so I had all my food plus more just in case. I only needed to get water on the way.

Here's a picture looking back along the path, and the absolute nightmare which greeted me at the other end!
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Even skinny walkers would struggle to get through this~
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Around 45mins of getting eaten by midges before I managed to get through. I will be taking a hacksaw next time a go on tour!

Thinking one of those Coozer trailers at the moment

Get one! - yes, they are at least TWICE the price of the cheaper models (Mine was about £380) but honestly, the quality is remembered LONG after the price is forgotten!

DrP

Lightman - i presume that is only the main gate locked?
I love that ride, it is a great path!
What's not to like?
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Lightman, that 'road' is on my to do list. It doesn't look so bad. As you say bike choice would influence your view.

Do you have any more pics from that trip?

Yeah, it threw me off a bit when the start looked very promising with 2 nice big easy to open gates and a nice bit of gravelly path to start me of with, but it just got worse and worse.
But yep, would be good on normal mtb though 🙂

mcmoonter, deff do it, but its all about the bike!
This was my first ever tour, so I was still getting the hang of where and when to take pictures, so not that many/interesting ones, but I think you should be able to see [url=

The Garmin route details are at the bottom of the album.

After Loch Rannoch, I had planned to go over to Loch Ericht and up the side of that, but after "The Path", I decided to play it safe and just go along the road.

Quick Croozer question. Notice it fits onto a bolt that goes on the rear axle. Do you chaps reckon this would be ok with horizontal dropouts?

Edit: ... and is there much storage if you have a couple of kids in there? Looks like there is a bit of a boot space but I really can't tell how big it is from the photos.

I've ran mine on horiz dropouts with no issue..
And the great thing about the croozer is there is loads of boot space - the cheaper ones down come with much at all (and the more expensive chariot has a much smaller boot also...)

Can take pics sometime later today if you want?

Drp

Would be great to have some pics, thanks. Though I'll probably have ordered one by then 🙂

One more question. The seat that they come with, is it suitable for a 15 month old? I notice they do an extra seat that's one up from the baby sling. Would I need that?

15months will be fine in standard seat....

DrP

Here you go - I've used a 1l bottle of sugar free pop, and alan 110g of cranberry sauce as a size reference....
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DrP

Thanks, useful pics. Appreciate the use of those standard measures!

[url= http://tinyurl.com/ne82t22 ]Cheap Bob Copy for the chap that was asking[/url]

Keep an eye out on ebay and gumtree for Croozers they don't come up often but do every now and again.

a few weeks before I bought stoner's of of him one came up locally to me and didn't even get any bids at about £100. It was a double and I was after a single as it's narrow enough to go through a standard door way.

That trailer is the same as the one I picked up off eBay for £30 (brand new 🙂 ).

Its ok [i]now[/i].. but the first time I used it it caused the weekend trip to the Isle of Wight to almost be a disaster - the QR was so weak that the first turn I made snapped the end off and we were stuck at the ferry port.
So:
1. Don't overload it
2. Pick up a replacement skewer to take with you just in case. I got mine from Edinburgh Bicyles - they have the same trailer branded as theirs. Unfortunately don't stock them at the moment. Will post if I find one.

[edit]close look at the listing shows the skewers to be the same as the Edinburgh one, so it'll be ok.

Thought I'd give a quick update on this thread and xtracycles. I did look at [url= http://www.xtracycle.com ]xtracycle freeradical conversion kit[/url] and at the time there was some issue with the importer and there was no UK stock. Thought I'd have another look today and it would appear that whatever the issue was it's been sorted as [url= http://www.practicalcycles.com ]Practical Cycles[/url] now have stock.

I did finish my semi-utility build a few days ago ([url= http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/new-bike-build-my-dad-bike ]linky[/url]). While not a full on utility bike I'm loving the utility-ness of it. For child carrying it's the Hamax and Croozer for now, but give it a few years and this sort of conversion...

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... will be very tempting 🙂 though I suspect by that age they'll want to ride their own bikes/scooters probably!

Thanks again for all the advice.

The benefit of being able to do progressively more things on my bike rather then my car cannot be underestimated the simple pleasure of just going to the post office. It even has me considering getting rid of the car entirely although a significant upgrade would probably be involved. 😉

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Is that a Minute? Looks good. A decent stand must be very handy too.

simple pleasure of just going to the post office

I know exactly what you mean, it really does make chores a pleasurable experience! I've done the post office parcel pick up, a supermarket run, and a few nursery and work runs so far and it's been great.

I really want a trailer/utility bike but living in a flat with no outside storage means I can't

My two bikes, kid seat and bikes take up too much room as it is 🙁

Indeed it is a Minute who knew such a boring bike could be so exciting lol the centre stand is good but i think im going to swap it out for a bi fold one which will get in the way less.

my minute:

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Does the nursery run for a 4 and 2.5 yr old, rain or shine (the kids love it), weekend picnics, family potters etc. as well as runs to shops etc. It's absolutely great, I love it.

I bought a double trailer for the kids (1 and 2) and have been using it with my MTB to cycle with the dog round the park and for simple paths. The kids absolutely love it

It wasn't a fancy one as I wanted to see how much use I'd actually get out of it, and how much the kids would like it, but so far its a complete winner!

Even in the cold they're happy once I've put blankets etc in

I've been very hesitant to use it on the road or even cycle paths on the road, do you guys use them on the road?

The other problem is having to get through width restrictions/gates etc, makes life difficult

no pics but I love my minute, fits on a standard bike rack on my camper van so when we're camping we can leave the van parked up and head out with the nipper on the weeride.

With the bags that came with it I can fit all the beach toys required for some serious sandcastle construction.

I can't see me ever getting rid of it.

ianpv, love the photo! How old before you just let your boy sit on the back?

I've been very hesitant to use it on the road or even cycle paths on the road, do you guys use them on the road?

Don't really like to use the roads when I've my boy on the hamax seat (though cars do generally seem to give you a lot more room!) I use them a bit but mostly try and link together pavement, cycle paths and towpaths.

I reckon I'd struggle a little on the nursery run with a trailer due to stupid staggered barriers on the cycle paths.

Pictonroad, what you got?