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Ha Tom that's funny.
"I'll ignore the facts as presented and just fixate on the fact I'm not going to be refunding any time soon"
I'm.not sure the other dudes comments instigated that....the cynic in me says it was always the case the other dude just gave him a tangible (in his mind) excuse for not refunding you.
Why is it that the more I read the tosh Jordan et al spew forth onto IG the more I think he watch Nathan Barley as if it was an instructional series rather than a comedic one?
I wouldn't be surprised if one of the cretins as Sick described themself as a "self-facilitating bicycling node".
It surprises me that there hasn’t been a mob of angry folks waiting of frames or refunds come knocking at their door
Would that be a duo or trio? I'd go and bet they don't have that many actual sales.
Would that be a duo or trio? I’d go and bet they don’t have that many actual sales.
Clearly they do, from the number of people Hannah interviewed, the people commenting on insta, the others in forums. Try and stick to facts, else ridiculous statements like the above get quoted by them, to make genuine concerns look frivolous, trying to get a reaction, and petty.
Before you scream ‘troll’ or ‘cyber bully’ or any of the other shit you’ve slung at me over the weeks, do try to remember, we agree...
9 to 5 you say? I don't mind if I do.
Good one finbouy
🤣🤯🥴
Thats a blast from the past 😱🏃♀️
In the world of the internet and global media there is simply No jurisdiction or boundaries that should prevent all those that have sent “credits of the realm” to Sick! and have received nothing in return.
Its a base transaction, invented when humans became savvy to the fact that “oh, i’ve got something to sell that others would like to have... and I’ve got enough goats and grain so maybe I’d like a bike frame instead”
C’mon, gather yourselves because the only way of fulfilling that base transaction for full and final remedy is by forming a class action of some form or other.
Playing pansies and cow tow’ing to some random internet poseures is pathetic.
🤷♂️
I truly hope that company does the decent thing and pays all money back immediately. That pinkbike article was a shitshow ad showed them to be the screamers they really are. Hopefully the sickness is terminal for that company.
I truly hope that company does the decent thing and pays all money back immediately
Not a chance in hell they even still have it to pay it back.
If they did, they would have done something sensible like pay the frame builders for the frames and deliver them to the customers.
The money is gone. 🙁
I do hope for all those owe money your wrong Neal but I must say - the latest offer rings alarm bells similar to the ubyk last ditch fire sale.
How do you think they paid for fancy wheels and chainsets?
I do hope for all those owe money your wrong Neal
I would love to be wrong as it’s shit
to for anyone to lose money like this.
But who would go for this long, firefighting on social media, not paying for the frames that are ready to ship and deliver, but still refusing to give refunds, if all the money was tucked away safe and sound in their account.
That pinkbike article was a shitshow ad showed them to be the screamers they really are.
They’re still telling people to read that article as the explanation for what’s happened and what they’re doing 🙄
Yeah, the fact that they are putting that all in the past and talking about lessons learned suggests that they are drawing a line and convincing themselves that fulfilling orders/customer service start now...or now...I suspect that there are no new frames getting sent out to people waiting. After all, why bother if they paid with PayPal 3 months ago?
for all the big talk about how they'd fight folk on the internet they blocked me on their insta THEN went to town ripping me apart and slagging me off. that's not a fair internet fight haha
if they arent even refunding merch orders or replacing them then i'd say things are not good
Where is the supposed new stock?
"we have 150 frames awaiting unboxing/customs/payment/shipping from cloud cuckoo land, there are no problems here, just read all our press coverage on PB and singletrack, clears everything up thanks bye"
Looking at Pinkbike the big apology to all their existing customers customers, is being offered a different kind of shitty frame they can't flog , to the one they we're actually flogged to start with.
150 frames they say, would that be the 35 frames unpaid for in Peru. At least we now know their bullshit factor is 4.3
150 frames they say, would that be the 35 frames unpaid for in Peru. At least we now know their bullshit factor is 4.3
No this was when they were saying they had all given up the day jobs and comitted fully to Sick.
First they said 300 frames from their new Chinese supplier.
Then they said it was 200 ,stated by a customer at some show.
Then it was 150 as the most bandied about number.
May delivery no less.
9 to 5 you say? I don’t mind if I do.
I expect the.misfit.jason has got his money back by now, because you know what time it is?
It's Wednesday already?
I expect the.misfit.jason has got his money back by now, because you know what time it is?
Go on, guess if he’s quids in?
Hint: the answer rhymes with ‘nuck fo’.
...a crooked bunch of hairy arseholes from Worthing...
You could just say “from Worthing”.. I mean, once you describe someone as being from there, there rest is a given...!
DrP
the answer rhymes with ‘nuck fo’.
Luck! Bro! ?
What do I win?
the answer rhymes with ‘nuck fo’.
Luck! Bro! ?
What do I win?
Nah its duck pho or hipster chicken noddle soup it's known up north.
What do I win?
Tim's orange prototype BMX
You could just say “from Worthing”.. I mean, once you describe someone as being from there, there rest is a given…!
DrP
How very dare you!
“You have heard many rumours about Sick frames not being delivered. But we can assure you that Tariq Aziz.”
“You have heard many rumours about Sick frames not being delivered. But we can assure you that Tariq Aziz.”
🙌
You could just say “from Worthing”.. I mean, once you describe someone as being from there, there rest is a given…!
DrP
Not everyone, obvz. There are a few neatly rounded humans that are quite likeable.. Some profess to be pillars of the community and all that 👍
However, after a few run-ins with some shady windsurfing importer/distributor types in that very vicinity Worthing does have a bit of a reputation for being full of barrow boys and promises unfulfilled 🥴🤣
Those that have been blocked by Sick! Why not start your own FB Group or Insta Group and fight back? No need to go down there fists 👊 in flight, just fight them with their own bullshite stories thrown back at them.. the stories and post histories would certainly make others considering a shopping bike frame for Hucking in the woods think twice before handing over Credits of your hard earned fundamentals.
🤷♂️🤯
It really does just take 10mins to set up an account(s).....
Fight back? I was actually being quite nice when i commented previously
Check out Marino on FB, he’s had no payment and no communication from them so is now selling the frames direct......
Well, thats Sick F*d then & no less than they deserve to be honest.
They cannot pay - they have spent all the money - thats clear. ~Get those small claims in. Your frames are built and ready but sick cannot pay for them despite you paying sick. get those guys in court.#
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OMG, just when you think there was nothing left in this story to keep you coming back, it just gets better!
does the forum not display insta posts when you copy the link anymore?
It's having trouble onshoring it, that's all. You'll see it soon.
As always
Direct questions
Jordan@sickbicycle.co
Number of emails so far from singletrack commenters 0
Let’s change that.
His words. Come on guys, shall we make his dreams come true?
Awaits press release saying 'haterz' ruined our company.
We will be suing for compensation.
I've already asked Tim directly, via Facebook, why they haven't paid their suppliers. (there are more than just Marino)
I don’t think Sick are going to re-appear TBH.
How stupid do Pinkbike feel now?..
I don’t think Sick are going to re-appear TBH.
How stupid do Pinkbike feel now?..
INTERESTING that only Marino is claiming he was never paid, maybe there was an unseen issue that stopped them paying him.
Were those frames "pre-orders"? If so, Marino are selling frames that Sick customers have already paid for. Frames for which Sick have already got the cash.
No blame at all on Marino. They've got bills to pay. Sick have some serious work to do here if they are ever to regain any trust.
INTERESTING that only Marino is claiming he was never paid, maybe there was an unseen issue that stopped them paying him.
I have heard of 2 other suppliers that haven't been paid.
CFH, IIRC all sick frames are sold as preorders, save for dead stock from cancelled orders
Sick have some serious work to do here if they are ever to regain any trust.
More chance of Theresa May starting a bike company and selling them.
I have heard of 2 other suppliers that haven’t been paid.
And yet not one other person has complained of any such thing petal.
More chance of May’s deal getting voted through!
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And yet not one other person has complained of any such thing petal
They have on the PB thread. Do keep up.
Burn!!!
So we have had the first hard tail frames built by Downland that were brazed together and did not look pretty (no fillet filing to save money)
We then had the ti and carbon full sus frame have-blue that was "always only a technical exercise" that when the copies appeared on the Chinese frame builder site the Sick boys announced on a live stream that it had had multiple failures at the bottom bracket and their single copy had been welded 3 times as it kept cracking and the Chinese copies should not be trusted.
Now we have a bunch of hard tail frames that are stuck in Peru as they haven't been fully paid for.
That is some track record.
Strong and Stable bikes from the Maybot? They sound ace, until the wheels fall off and tools fall out of the cabinet and dent the frame in the run up to delivery three years late...
While looking for Tom's comment on Facebook I stumbled across the sick bicycles owners club.
It has 9 members.... Does that mean 8 folk got their frames ? - 1 or the 9 is sick themselves.
This has all the hallmarks of a company desperately trying to dig themselves out a cashflow black hole.
The 2017 (Feb 2018) accounts showed they couldn't meet their obligations without funding from the directors. Since then the same guys have started a T-Shirt Ltd co in July 2018 and had a tattoo studio dissolved (April 2019).
So it looks like none of their other sources of income can support Sick! so they need to get some external funding. They can't make it right from here for existing customers by selling new things to new customers - thats the pyramid/ponzi model and we know where that ends.
If they can't meet their obligations and still taking money off creditors, then they are trading while insolvent. If thats proven then limited liability won't help the directors.
If they can’t meet their obligations and still taking money off creditors, then they are trading while insolvent. If thats proven then limited liability won’t help the directors.
Aka Wrongful Trading.
Company directors have done time for that. Limited liability doesn’t protect them, whatever they might think. Wonder if they’ve kept any of the cash in reserve for legal advice......
Still manages to be full of woe ist me and also has a wee bit of a chubby for the attention though. "every move is headline news" aye pal, cos you're crooks. Hope nobody bought a unicoen from the sale
‘Reaching a suitable solition’
Pay up, sucka!
Wonder how long the comments will last, they are getting a pasting. Though, amazingly, some folk are STILL rooting for them.
The sad thing is that Marino sound like they got exactly the same treatment as the customers. No doubt they would have been up for something to get the frames shifted had Sick just spoken to them “privately, like most businesses do”
The Sick 'this is fine' bus keeps on trundling, doesn't it.
...like most businesses do...
Most businesses deliver their products to paying (and alreayd paid!) customers and pay their suppliers. Those that don't? Well...
Though, amazingly, some folk are STILL rooting for them.
The sad thing is that Marino sound like they got exactly the same treatment as the customers. No doubt they would have been up for something to get the frames shifted had Sick just spoken to them “privately, like most businesses do”
Wonders if Marino has his own agenda in publicising this? He has 30 frames being built and 30 finished.
What? What is your agenda Phil? So far you’ve insinuated that every side in this is dodgy in some way?
His own agenda. Aye, maybe he wants paid ya plum
He's got to get his money from somewhere and it probably won't be from Sick!
All this^ if he’s got 60 loads of time and materials committed then he’ll be really feeling the pain
Marino’s agenda is to get his money back. He’s paid for the materials, the paint job and the man hours to build those frames. Even if it was a % paid up front, Marino will be seriously out of pocket.
Even if they are half built he's as well to finish them . They are at least sailable.
Half built they are nothing more than lost time and money
Wonders if Marino has his own agenda in publicising this?
Yes but not exactly hidden or unfair. Those frames will have cost money in time/materials and for some odd reason I doubt they see sick coughing up anytime soon. By cutting out the middleman he gets to recoup that expenditure and there is a reasonable chance the people who ordered them via sick also end up with the frame they wanted although sadly some may have to pay twice.
What? What is your agenda Phil? So far you’ve insinuated that every side in this is dodgy in some way?
And yet your still chelping, pretending to have some vested interested in helping the poor and needy , it's been pointed out your only here to stir the pot.
You can guarantee even though Tom has no horse in the race he will be there stirring away like a desperate attention seeking nobody.
In fact no, no it wasn't that your still pissed that Jordan told you to jog on and do one aren't you sock puppet.
What? What horse do you have in the race Phil?
And low the ban hammer swings
As I've said before precious it's got nothing to do with you has it, is that what upsets you most , the fact your nothing to people yet crave attention just like Jordan.
But why are you focussing your anger at me? We agree!
You guys are cute
Lovely stuff
I have had the displeasure of reading this whole thread.
Phil, I think you need a sit down pal.
What’s cute is the idea that if you want to dig into stuff that seems dodgy, or to stop something causing harm to people, you have to join a queue of victims before you’re entitled to do anything.
But why are you focussing your anger at me? We agree!
I believe the term is ‘trolling’.