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[Closed] Ultegra medium cage (gs) cage length?

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As above I’m looking at buying an uktegra r8000 rear mech in medium (gs) cage length so I can accommodate an 11-32 cassette. I’ve found some info on the previous gen (6800) mech but not true r8000.

What length should there be between the 2 jockey wheel centres on the medium cage? I’m trying to check a second hand mech is the correct type.


 
Posted : 28/02/2019 4:53 pm
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About 90mm (didn't want to destroy the packaging to get an accurate measurement)


 
Posted : 28/02/2019 5:00 pm
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It's pretty easy to tell from looking at the cage. SS doesn't have a cut out, GS does. This is an SS

short cage

This is a GS

medium cage


 
Posted : 28/02/2019 5:07 pm
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Cheers - still not 100% sure though - the pictures on the advert don’t show the right front angle to see the cutout on the cage. I’ve got a picture with a measurement of say 73mm ish between the centres of the jockeys. Is a 6800 I’d think that could be medium cage but it sounds like it’s a bit short on the r8000 which is a completely different design.


 
Posted : 28/02/2019 5:13 pm
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Link to the advert?


 
Posted : 28/02/2019 5:15 pm
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https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F153395814863

I’m thinking it’s an SS but there’s an unhelpful standard picture (showing an ss) but it’s listed as medium cage.

I should probably just go and buy a 105 r7000 new for similar money but the lure of Ultegra is calling me!!


 
Posted : 28/02/2019 5:23 pm
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Posted : 28/02/2019 7:29 pm
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Anyone any further thoughts on the link I sent - SS or GS mech?


 
Posted : 28/02/2019 8:42 pm
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I recently bought a silver 105 7000 GS from ChainReaction that cost me £38 (cheapest colour option at time), the black one is now £37.
https://www.chainreactioncycles.com/shimano-105-r7000-rear-derailleur/rp-prod173487

11-34 cassettes in stock for ~£37 https://www.merlincycles.com/shimano-105-cs-r7000-cassette-11-speed-117086.html , CRC now out of stock.

Anyway, your Ebay link, I think it's SS cage... Distance between pulley axles on my GS is ~8.5cm, from upper pulley axle to cage base running past lower pulley axle is ~11.5cm. All approx as mech yet to be fitted, along with 11-34 cassette!


 
Posted : 01/03/2019 8:17 am
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Joe - that's a short cage by the look of things. I run an 11-32 cassette with a medium cage (GS) Ultegra R8000 mech on one bike and 11-28 with a short cage Ultegra 6800 on the other.

I don't think you'd notice a huge difference between 105 and Ultegra for this part alone, but I do think it's worth putting the small cost difference into perspective. You could easily save a lot more that the difference in cost between an Ultegra and 105 mech by paying more attention to how your pension / savings / mortgage / other costs are doing!

Life's too short. If you want an Ultegra mech for another £15-20 over 105, just do it!


 
Posted : 01/03/2019 9:22 am
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Cheers for the above. I’ve knocked that Ultegra mech idea on the head and ordered an r7000 105 rear mech in black from crc. I won’t notice the difference if I’m brutally honest! I’ve already received a new chain and an 11-32 cassette from merlin this week so as soon as the rear mech arrives I’m good to go. Hoping the existing cable will be fine as I don’t want to spend hours messing with internal cables on my caad 12. I have got spare cable / outer on standby though just in case.

It looks like the cassette I’ve ordered has a 32t cog then the next down is a 28t so should just give me that bail out I want/ need on some steeper hills. Will probably stick with semi compact rings up front for now and see how it goes.


 
Posted : 01/03/2019 12:17 pm
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one of the pictures shows the back of the cage and that says "japan SS" ?


 
Posted : 01/03/2019 12:30 pm
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I wasn’t sure if that was an ‘SS’or something else - but good point!


 
Posted : 01/03/2019 12:31 pm

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