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No debating here please, just say "IN" if you're racing (and getting insurance) and "OUT" if you're not (but wanted to do at least one event in 2015).
Please don't reply if you had no intention of racing anyway.
[url= http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/if-you-thought-mandatory-full-facers-were-a-pain-for-ukge ]Background here BTW[/url]
I'll kick things off - OUT.
In.
Out, quite fancied it, but extra costs and faff put me off. Red kite for me
Out
Undecided
Undecided
Out
Out.
Can't be bothered to take racing that seriously.
Out
Out.
(But was already out due to the full face helmet rule).
Out,(in with full face). Others in our club feel the same
In.
Hoping that the full-face rule and now insurance will give Parr et al the confidence to build some really steep and technical stages into their races, can't wait!
Out.
Will look elsewhere.
In
Out
doing the POC scottish series and tweed love events instead. i cannot get insurance because of my job i have tried many times before 🙁
Out as no rounds in Wales...
Total so far...
In = 3
Out = 11
Undecided = 2
Out (at the moment, but if 1 weekend insurance comes to <£15, then In)
shake it all about?
deviant
the confidence to build some really steep and technical stages into their races, can't wait!
Could that not alienate more riders and create an "elitist" series? Not exactly within the "spirit" of enduro.....
out
In
OUT. Planned to do the scottish round but no chance now
(but in perspective- I've only done one round previously so it's no great loss to them 😉 )Did the Scottish series and the EWS instead, and some standalones, will do so again and maybe the Welsh Multi Day Whotsit
In
Out - full face, insurance and cost put me off. Did Ae last year. Thought it was pretty tame.
We have a great scottish series and the PMBA events are also fun.
out - too expensive
Could that not alienate more riders and create an "elitist" series? Not exactly within the "spirit" of enduro...
They are competitive events and Parr wants his series to be seen as the National series not just local or regional, he is also holding what he hopes to be the inaugural UK Championship for Enduro this year.
He said in the Pinkbike interview that he wants to see a pyramid structure for Enduro in this country where riders start in local races, progress to regional series, then onto the UKGE National series and then on to the Enduro World Series...it makes sense to me anyway....if the courses are too technical step back and race locally or regionally until you can compete nationally.
I wouldnt enter a British DH race, i dont have the bike for a start and given that most of the top 10 - 20 riders in the UK are also regulars in the top-10 DH World Cups i'd get slaughtered, the courses are way beyond me too...Llangollen for example!....bugger that...
...but rather than moan that its not 'accessible' enough for newbies like me i just race locally or do low key stuff like the Forest of Dean mini-DH.
This whole "Enduro is supposed to be a ride around the woods with mates" attitude is cool but it is also a timed race so some people will take it seriously an want a tiered system for them t progress on....the UKGE races in 2011 i did were brilliant, exactly like a lot of people hoped...fun, laugh, all skill levels...but that was 4 years ago and people like Dan Atherton etc are now racing the series, as the organiser Parr has to challenge these top riders.
Guys, from the OP:
chakaping - Member
No debating here please
Apologies for the War & Peace post above.
Out
out
Out like all the above complaints
In
National champs only.
If I was still a privateer I would be OUT. As it is I am IN however.
Nice one Benpinnick!
Out.
out. unless a simple single race insurance becomes readily available.
Out
Out
New running total after mrhoppy...
In - 6
Out - 22
Undecided - 2
Out
Out
Out, but I only wanted to join IN 😉
it is too dear mind.
Out, EWS instead
In
But not happy about the ff and insurances rulings but I work weekends and booked them all off months ago so I'm screwed, hope they struggle to sell em tbf.
OUT. I'll have a look at some of the (currently) smaller ones instead.
The lack of professionalism from the organisers is a concern. The messages are so garbled, I don't even know what the FF rule is. IMHO, Mr Parr needs a spokesman with some business acumen.
It's very telling that EWS is less hassle.
It's very telling that EWS is less hassle.
Just wait till you try using the ews registration web site !
Apparently that site's gone for this year
Wrecker, you're absolutely on the money, but as per the rules I cant more than that 😉
Out. Being forced to buy shit I don't need
In.
ukge's are brilliant races IMO
Undecided.
If (which there is no reason why I can't) I can play the system & buy a policy to be valid for the race weekend, even with their preferred choice insurer, then cancel it on the Monday morning, then that's what i'll do.
Like many others, still waiting on what sort of cover we actually need, a decent explaination as to WHY would be nice too. Rather than buy it, or piss off...
In - 8
Out - 27
Undecided - 3
Out.
Out
Bump for the weekday massive.
Out.
Was going to do some rounds, but I don't trust the organisers to change their minds about something else. Both issues; FF and insurance are fundemental, and they borked both announcements.
No trust.
I really wanted to race more this year but, while I was fairly ok with FF as sometimes i felt uncomfortable racing in an open face on parts of stages that were as tech as any DH stuff ive ever ridden, the insurance requirement is an extra cost for something that I dont understand the point of. And they're doing pretty bad at communicating those reasons unsurprisingly!
Shame we can't have it as good as the Euro's.
joefm - MemberShame we can't have it as good as the Euros
It's quite funny that- some folks are obsessed with the euro scene, "they do it in france" is all the reason they need to want it here. But Enrico Gualo came to Scotland and couldn't stop talking about the things from Scottish enduro he wants to take home. He was knocked out by the inclusivity and openness of it here.
TBH it seems like Steve sees elitism and exclusivity as something to aspire to
Ahem.
No debating here please
Joe - is that "out" then?
I'm not debating, I'm ranting
Not just the insurance but - Out
OUT - for a few reasons. Insurance etc the last straw.
Out.
Full facer I've got but I'm not keen on attaching it to my camelback and switching between that and an open lid for the transitions. I may have done it though if there was a round local and I was free that weekend.
The insurance thing? Unless it was a few quid, I'm ooot.
Maybe then.
so northwind u think Parr shouldve cancelled the series liek Enrico Gualla did?
http://singletrackmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/2015-time-check-for-superenduro/
I think if it was made clear what you had to insure and why then there would be less grumbling.
I was considering the quantocks round but seems a bit of a shambles at the moment.
In....
kimbers - Memberso northwind u think Parr shouldve cancelled the series liek Enrico Gualla did?
Eh no. What a weird comment. In case you hadn't noticed, the Scottish Enduro Series is carrying on with open faces and no random insurance requirements. The EWS seems to be doing the same, as are lower level events. This isn't something UKGE has been forced into, it's something they've chosen to do for their own reasons.
In - 9
Out - 33
Undecided - 4
Wish I'd asked if you'd all done any UKGE events before, but still useful figures I think.
[url= http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/if-you-thought-mandatory-full-facers-were-a-pain-for-ukge/page/7#post-6609677 ]This way with the bickering please boys[/url].
🙂
Agreed cha****ng and how many rounds you intended to enter
I did the last 2 seriesand will be doing all rounds this year
I did 3 rounds in 2011 and 1 in 2012 BTW.
Out-cost & extra for insurance.
rode one in 2013
Tried entering 1 in 2014 but sold out.
Won't bother this year.
Not raced any UKGE rounds before. Will be doing all + and probably National Champs this year which is going to cost a bomb in petrol (coming from Cornwall) but really looking forward to it.
Raced one round last year and loved it.
Following latest statement and consequently none-the-wiser why i need £100 worth of insurance, it's very unlikely i'll race again this year. Would have done so otherwise.
OUT - Changed from undecided
Happy to pay £100 for insurance if someone can tell me why this is needed for the series? All I can see it does is provide a very small amount of personal cover which I don't need. OUT.
IN
Be interested to see how many of the outs have raced the series previously!