Hi,
Tyre jacks or tyre bead setting tools are the thing, but name is sort of misleading.
I'm after something a bit different.
I'm after tool that pushes actual tyre bed from rim well into intended position at the rim's edge.
Doing it manually on one side of the rim, or by popping inner tube in overnight is not a problem.
The other side is something that I want to use, within actual possibilities of doing it from outside of the rim.
So am I looking it up wrong - tyre bead setting tool - or nothing like that exists?
Cheers!
I.
I've used an ordinary tyre lever to do this, with reasonably good success.
This?
Available via Amazon if needed
What tyres are causing the problem? For me thumbs or biff it sideways (relative to the rim) on the floor. Or my compressor if I'm at home.
I've been fighting tyres on the gravel bike all afternoon.
The rear Resolute had a tube in it, so I pulled it out & topped up with Stans. Could not get the bead to seal & I don't have a compressor.
Decided to pull the tyres & put my old Sawtooths back on, same drama.
Found a youtube video about seating the bead with a tyre lever, worked for the front, but the back just wouldn't play ball.
Had to resort to a CO2 to get it seated after wasting an afternoon.
So old tyres = pain in the arse.
More expense in the quest for tubeless tyres.
some sort of sticky stuff, new types of vale, sealing tape, a fancy new type of pump, a little device for coring out holes to plug them with little er.. plugs, and now a specialist tool to seat them.
Does it not just seem a bit much 😕 spending money hand over fist, and everyone it seems has problems with them when they do eventually get fitted let alone in fitting the bloody things in the first place.. a messy job. Or rolling off the bead mid trail in the middle of nowhere, putting an end to that days easy ride.
For what ? a supple tyre, though possibly prone to tears on the sidewalls due to be too supple perhaps...
And its still recommended you carry a spare innertube 😯 😆
Think I'll stick to tubes, rather than such an expensive 'upgrade' with a host of its own problems.
The pros still outweigh the cons when you find all the thorns in your tyre.
New tyres definitely go up easier.
A plug is a lot quicker than replacing a tube, which is required on any tube tyre puncture, but only a total catastrophic puncture on tubeless.
Typical STW fashion :p
Every thread on tubeless turns into same 'ole squabble about pros and cons of tubes over tubeless and vice versa.
You like tubes, grand, you like tubeless even better, just spare me your "I'd-rathers"
Boooo-ring...
Cyclo Tool... Interesting, will have a browse. If that is not mega-bucks spend might try.
I had limited success doing it with tyre levers, hence looking for something that might help.
Found a youtube video about seating the bead with a tyre lever
Would you be able to share that particular one?
What tyres are causing the problem?
Funnily, especially in the light of Michelin website link, it is Michelin Yksion, road tubeless on new Open Pro rims.
Interestingly when I was setting it first time it went up and sealed without any effort whatsoever. Then I had a bit of a mishap, slashed rear tyre almost in half, resorted to inner tube to hobble back home and since then I seems to be unable to set same, new tyre on the same rim...
Wheel is true, no flat spots or anything like that, but it refuses cooperation...
Might try to re-do the taping, just in case.
Cheers!
I.
This might be irrelevant but the way I've sorted it in the past is to inflate the tyre with a tube in, undo one bead to remove the tube and replace the valve, making sure not to disturb the other bead, smother rim and bead with 50/50 fairy liquid and water then place wheel horizontally on a bucket, loose bead facing down so gravity helps it find a seal. Then pump like buggery.
Here you go Ivan;
It worked on my first tyre but not the second.
I've always used the method BigJohn describes, but it's a bit hit or miss on used tyres.
Thanks!!
That actually gives me a bit of a idea.
Will test on the weekend and might report, depending on outcome.
Still probably re-do taping as I think that one I'm trying to do was with a bit dodgy valve hole piercing anyways.
Cheers!
I.
The above video has worked for me. Not sure if it's relevant to you, but since using tyre inserts, I've never not been able to seat a tyre with a normal pump. The insert pushes the tyre out to the bead, which seems to make it much easier to seat.
I swapped out my tubeless G-Ones for tubed Nordic spikes earlier this year when we had the cold spell. When I came to swap back to tubeless I had all sorts of bother trying to get them to seat, they just wouldn't! I tried all the tricks I could find, popping a tube in first, zip ties round the tyre to hold the bead in place (no airshot or compressor though). In the end I concluded the tape had deformed too much around the spoke holes. I retaped and they went up no bother! I wished I'd done that in the first place!
Yeah, as mentioned, will do re-taping. Might cure issue as in your case Mat.
Cheers!
I.
In my experience fitting old tyres can be difficult as they have stretched. Applying another round of tape takes up the space.
