[Closed] Tweedlove no longer a free festival

Ultimately I think they would struggle to expand beyond what they had without the revenue stream, and there's more and more competition. Its only £10 for the 3 days, U16s are free, and racers get a free pass too, so while it will have an impact on numbers for sure, I guess they feel the improvements it could fuel will be worth the offset.

Imagine having to pay?, between this and crc not doing free returns, this country is going to shit!

😔😂

may rethink visiting next year.

Over a tenner? Is it the money, or is it just because you are being asked to pay ‘something’?

We will be going up again, our daughter will be competing. Paying to have what has always been a great weekend should be well worth it. The fact that they haven't charged people in the past was a bonus.

Really? How much was your bike. Your moaning about paying a tenner for something you enjoy attending?

Yup moaning, I run a trip up there so I'll need to buy 12 tickets. The festival organisers did not mention a change to charging for entry so I've based my costs on the previous 6yrs we've been there.

oh dear

just pass on the costs explain the change by the organisers, are you doing the trip for free?

<edit> https://chaseskills.co.uk/tweedlove/

no you're not doing it for free

Tbf, was thinking of travelling up with the family, I know my wife will scowl at having to pay a tenner to wander round some stalls selling bike parts.

It seems a bit odd unless there are other events on there, even then with 4 young kids it's not like we can stay up all night in a dance tent !

At least the kids are free

So bobbyspangles is upset that someone else gets to make money from his prior making trip? Yes it's a change, but as a fellow businessman you should understand.

Quick call or email to your customers to say you didn't know the changes, sorry it's now +£10 if your not racing.

no you’re not doing it for free

Ouch. Business who took advantage of profiting from something put on for free now unhappy that business makes less profit from an event that people previously put on for free...

That national cycling Park and further ghetto-creation can't fund itself...

You would probably pay a tenner for parking in many cities for a day, sounds cheap

What Mike says.

It does indeed sound reasonable. How much is festival entry at 'Ardrock?

it is bloody expensive given that all you get is access to the stalls. If you have paid for any ticketed events then you don't pay the £10 though.

Did they not announce this back in October, they certainly announced the change of format back then if not the pricing details. Either way, might have been safe to assume a change of format meant things might be a bit different to the 2017 event that you are advertising a trio to on your own site.

Yup it’s quite clear for this year it’s £10 entry for 3 days, seems to be loads going on shame I’m working.

I suggest you use the current info not the one from 2 years ago. Maybe swallow the cost this year.

Scottish outdoor pursuits show is 12 quid plus the bank loan if you choose to park at the secc. Going on previous years you will get a couple of hours out of it at most .
£10 for 3 days at tweedlove is a bargain .

I've been in conversation with the organisers before the date was announced this year, my costs are not based on previous experience. Nothing was mentioned about the introduction of a charge. I don't mind the price, it's low cost compared to many. It's the change
in pricing months into the planning that's a surpris, could have been mentioned in the conversations I've had with organisers.
Taking advantage? Hahaha, righto.
I will be swallowing the cost, rather that than go to the folks booked on begging bowl in hand

Having competed a couple of years back I didn't feel like the event warranted a £10 entry fee, the riding was great but there were just a few stalls on the green. Are locals going to turn up if they're charged a tenner?

I’ve been in conversation with the organisers before the date was announced this year, my costs are not based on previous experience. Nothing was mentioned about the introduction of a charge. I don’t mind the price, it’s low cost compared to many. It’s the change
in pricing months into the planning that’s a surpris, could have been mentioned in the conversations I’ve had with organisers.
Taking advantage? Hahaha, righto.
I will be swallowing the cost, rather that than go to the folks booked on begging bowl in hand

I don't think anything has changed. I thought it was always clear that entry was to be charged from the moment they announced this years events. It has always said you'd get free entry into the festival if you did an event. I think you've just not noticed till now!

mikewsmith

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You would probably pay a tenner for parking in many cities for a day, sounds cheap

I assume you still have to pay to park in the town on top of that tho?

A tenner isnt too bad, as long as its motre than just a few bike shops offloading their unwanted stock & the odd trade display

one of teh great things about t was finishing the races to a bunch of cheering locals (mostly kids who still get in for free anyway, tbf)

I assume you still have to pay to park in the town on top of that tho?

or park 5 mins walk out of town for free

Sorry, I'm confused. Are we saying that the OP runs commercial trips that take advantage of what tweedlove has to offer, and he's pissed because tweedlove are charging?

Is that right?

Shirley Knott.

If you've been in conversations with the organiser, surely you've got a direct line to them to raise your concerns directly, rather than moaning on a public forum.

It’s the change
in pricing months into the planning that’s a surpris, could have been mentioned in the conversations I’ve had with organisers.

Fair enough if you feel this is a surprise then.

But, £10 for three days is a bargain still.

Maybe (I'm taking a punt here but not an unrealistic one I don't think) the fixed costs of putting it on aren't met by a sponsor any more, or sponsorship revenues have been harder to find (I do know they had this issue in the past), so something has to meet those fixed costs.

As others have said, £10 seems cheap enough to not be a barrier to entry, but probably enough to cover the revenue gap. Can't see anyone running an MTB festival to get rich.....

Abigales entry went in on the 3rd December and we were aware then that we would have to pay the entry fee for us
I thought it was at Innerleithen this year and not on the green at Peebles

You do seem to get alot for £10 over three days

What to expect:

Mega Bike Demo
Bike expo
Bike uplifts and shuttles
Camping on-site
Awesome festival village
Transcend Bar and craft beers
Street food village
DJs & live music
‘Bike-park’ location
Access to Innerleithen, Glentress, the Golfie and miles of gravel roads
Easy access to some of the country’s best trails
Tons of top tracks to ride for non-racers
Family events
Pumtrack racing
Tech support
On site parking
The Transcend Festival Plan: Ride fantastic trails with your mates, grab some great grub and beer, check out the bike bling, demo an awesome bike, enjoy top tunes and live music, get stoked to do it again the next day. Repeat.

Yup that’s quite an itinerary for £225.

£230, which is more than any of the EWS rounds, and she gets

Entry to the Transcend Epic includes
Race entry
Two day, multiple stage event
Uplift & shuttles
Packed lunch and energy products both days
Medic cover
Two days of dedicated shuttles and uplift (more than double your ascent)
Tech and mechanical support
Post ride Beer Voucher both days
Return to Transcend Festival HQ at night
SI Entries timing
Parking and camping space (bring your own tent)
Entry to festival village
All entertainment/expo facilities

We get to hang about, ride, cook, spanner, meet up with old friends, try not to buy anything all for just over £3 a day.

Coming from South Yorkshire even I cant argue on value for money.

Coming from South Yorkshire even I cant argue on value for money.

Lol! 🙂

Medic cover

That is the bit I'm hoping is good.... 2 day uplifted enduro is going to be a test 🙂

I don't understand. Pay for what?
riding in the tweed valley hills?
don't think so.

Racing? Not interested personally but of course it's not going to be free.
Paying to park and enter a trade show sort of thing? Can't say that interests me either.
Shopping is a chore.

£230, which is more than any of the EWS rounds, and she gets

I was talking about the OPs planned trip. However yes that is an even better deal.

Shame I'm working seems I could have caught up with some old faces.

I don’t understand. Pay for what?

What's listed several posts above.

Mega Bike Demo
Bike expo
Bike uplifts and shuttles
Camping on-site
Awesome festival village
Transcend Bar and craft beers
Street food village
DJs & live music
‘Bike-park’ location
Access to Innerleithen, Glentress, the Golfie and miles of gravel roads
Easy access to some of the country’s best trails
Tons of top tracks to ride for non-racers
Family events
Pumtrack racing
Tech support
On site parking

As a local, previous years village on Tweed Green would not be worth £10. Some items on the list go a decent way to being worth £10 if there for 3 days. Bike uplift and shuttles and car parking. Previously in Peebles people would be paying for parking around town.

However is it really a selling point to say that paying £10 will then allow me access to spend money on a new bike, or £10 entry will allow me to buy food from a stall, or £10 will permit me to buy craft beer in a tent.

My worry is not with £10 entry if travelling a distance and staying it is great value, but rather the move of venue to a quieter town and an attempt it seems to keep tourists and revenue streams more contained to the festival venue. I think less local involvement and participation is likely.

I always liked the bustle and business that came to Peebles to use the shops, cafes and pubs. I can see Peebles being quieter this year while a mini music festival occurs 5 miles away at the trailhead at Innerleithen.

Three days worth of uplifts, shuttles and parking for a tenner is expensive?

🤯

Do you get uplift if not racing for 3 quid a day? Bargain if so but surely not...

Yeah I feel there might be a top-up involved when you’re actually there.

Also, these are taking the piss somewhat as part of the justification.

Access to Innerleithen, Glentress, the Golfie and miles of gravel roads
Easy access to some of the country’s best trails
Tons of top tracks to ride for non-racers

I went to the local village show back up north last summer, £4, I mean FOUR POUNDS, there was no free ice cream

I went to the local village show back up north last summer, £4, I mean FOUR POUNDS, there was no free ice cream

I do think that what is being offered is certainly worth £10 if using many of the features available. Uplift and parking if you have brought your car from further afield.

I do not think it is likely to be good value for passing casual footfall. I would certainly not have paid £10 to enter the tented area previously however there is more on offer if you intend to be biking.

In the past I would taken the family have to support riders and purchase a pizza slice and a coffee and sample the atmosphere. For my wife and I just to enter the village with the kids will cost £20. You then buy a couple of coffees a bite to eat and ice cream for the kids and suddenly you are £40 out of pocket. I can't see that happening which is a shame.

I do think that what is being offered is certainly worth £10 if using many of the features available.

Uplift is extra as is all the other ticketed events.

Is uplift over and above. It does say that you don't pay £10 If purchasing a ticket for an event.

I don’t think uplift is included in the £10. The £10 is for entry into the festival village. I understand that they are trying to put more on with more live music and entertainment and maybe the increase will justify the new charge, but if not a tenner to walk round a bunch of bike stands, still pay for food and drink and see a proclaimers tribute band ( sorry, it’s probably not them but it is Scotland and that the first band that came into my head) does seem a bit steep for none riders.