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what if you get a double flat?
pro's mechanics don't have to fix anything though do they. they're just changing the wheel.
It's like watchings rats trapped in a maze with no exit 😐
grum - the mech is well up to supporting the bike, as long as nothing silly happens.
And yes, putting the axle thru on teh 20mm fork is no bother.
Looks like I'll have to do a video...any "upside-downers" care to do the same?
I genuinely find it easier, but I've been doing it for 20+ years.
Dave you also sound like a right ponce
SIR, that, quite flagrantly, is in no way the case. It offends my very soul to hear such fallacy.
[flounces]
Stupid thread. I pretty much always put the bike upside down to take the wheels in and out. I find it funny watching people scrabble to put the wheel in with the bike the right way up.
He would probably turn the bike upside down.
He is under strict instructions to simply destroy the bike and start again from scratch, so as to avoid the problem.
I say tom-a-to, you say tomato, etc....
+1 Terrahawk
I genuinely find it easier, but I've been doing it for 20+ years.
have you been repeating yourself yourself for 20 years?
Grow the _____ up, who cares!?
To be honest I don't feel like turning mine the right way up ever again.
5 pages ffs
Yep. It is amazing how people will argue with common sense and logic. I always forget that on STW people are right, even when they are talking complete bollocks.
I'm off to organise my sock draw.
Stepping off the back of the bike while it's still moving, raising bars and allowing the bike to roll through into a manual to upside down [u]has[/u] got to be as quick as what you're suggestong Al?
My outer lock on collars have no anodising left from riding and have no other shite attached to my bars to damage.
BMX = upside down
Roadie = Upright
IME only insecure little white sock wearing gimps will feel the need to verbally justify holding onto dated roadie rituals while riding mtbs off road.
ohmygod ohmygod ohmygod...I just looked at my Hope levers, and you wouldn't imagine the damage I have done to them over the last, ooh, SEVEN years...
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It bothered me so much I just went and got a permanent marker, and now its practically invisible 😀
ffs, if you flat, throw the bike away and get a new one. it's ruined. when did you last see a Pro Tour rider at the side of the road changing a tube? If you can't afford to do that, you shouldn't be riding a bike.
I'm not saying you should waste the old bike, you can maybe use unmarked bits for spares, but mostly once a bike's been ridden more than a few miles, it's only fit for the skip etc...
Fixed! Phew...no one will ever know...
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I just went and got a permanent marker, and now its practically invisible
prove it
EDIT: he did! 😀
Now all that will happen is when I turn the bike over, I will get permanent black smudges on the dining room carpet 😆
Doesn't everyone carry a rolled up piece of astroturf?
I always have a bit in the camelbak and my shifters are pristine even though I am a turner upside downer..
Mind you, since going tubeless 6 years ago I've only had two punchirs.
Would now be a good time to ask a stupid headset question?
spooky_b329 - That's hilarious and sums the thread up.
Good work 😆
Fixed! Phew...no one will ever know...
Quick, get 'em on the classifieds
Didn't expect this thread to still be going when I got in from work. Any mention of Page 88 of Issue 73 yet?
FWIW I'm a bike flipper.
I can't believe this is still going on! If I'm not mistaken, I've not actually said anything 'snobby' about flippers, merely that I find it harder, and it's slower, and you risk damaging the bike.
Still, always nice to incur the wrath of half the forum!
GW - Member
Stepping off the back of the bike while it's still moving, raising bars and allowing the bike to roll through into a manual to upside down has got to be as quick as what you're suggestong Al?My outer lock on collars have no anodising left from riding and have no other shite attached to my bars to damage.
BMX = upside down
Roadie = Upright
IME only insecure little white sock wearing gimps will feel the need to verbally justify holding onto dated roadie rituals while riding mtbs off road.
Oh dear, you fix punctures in the middle of the trail? Isn't that the sort of thing [s]gnarly gobshites[/s] AWESOME riders like you hate?
Why is it you do the whole "I'm like this in real life" thing, but are perfectly polite to me in real life?
Why is it you do the whole "I'm like this in real life" thing, but are perfectly polite to me in real life?
Classic keyboard warriorism innit.
Well I didn't like to say...
I always turn my bike upside down to make sure its sitting on the bell end
"It is truly amazing, I didn't realise that bike snobbery/one upmanship could extend to how you change a puncture. Incredible."
I'm truly amazed how easy it is to take the p*** on here these days!
Throw in a few crass comments and its all handbags at dawn!
I've finish hiding from work, been out for a "proper" ride with "proper" riders on "proper" trails. (No bikes were harmed or intentionally inverted)
And you are still all upset.
I think theres only been one mention of troll back on the 1st page. Come on.
Fire in the hole boyz:-)
Where did I say anything about stopping in the middle of a trail? And for that matter, where above was I impolite to YOU?
You've only met/spoken to me once Al, you don't know me at all..
(IIRC you only said about 3 sentences).
Or was it the same one 3 times?
Only joking GW, its actually the curse of the internet, everyone does it.
I whip my bike upside down so I can scrub the wheels clean.
On concrete slabs.
Am I special enough yet 😀
BTW, resting the bike right side up on its derailleur is just so wrong to me. The chain and mech sitting in the dirt getting filled with mud and scratched up on rocks? Why? To save some £10 grips and a £50 saddle? Neither of which are mechanical things! Upside down seems much more mechanically sympathetic to me.
GW - Member
Stepping off the back of the bike while it's still moving, raising bars and allowing the bike to roll through into a manual to upside down has got to be as quick as what you're suggestong Al?
Doesn't imply stopping in the middle of the trail?
GW
IME only insecure little white sock wearing gimps will feel the need to verbally justify holding onto dated roadie rituals while riding mtbs off road.
Ah, so you phrased this with sufficient ambiguity (in your mind) to not be aimed at me? And you've never been impolite to me on here?
I know you talk like you are a good rider but I've never seen back-pedalling that fast.
GW - Member
You've only met/spoken to me once Al, you don't know me at all..(IIRC you only said about 3 sentences).
Ditto.
I'm truly amazed how easy it is to take the p*** on here these days!
Throw in a few crass comments and its all handbags at dawn!
I've finish hiding from work, been out for a "proper" ride with "proper" riders on "proper" trails. (No bikes were harmed or intentionally inverted)
And you are still all upset.
I think theres only been one mention of troll back on the 1st page. Come on.
Fire in the hole boyz:-)
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jesus. where is the button.
IME only insecure little white sock wearing gimps will feel the need to verbally justify holding onto dated roadie rituals while riding mtbs off road.
See now I assumed that was aimed at me, and was amused that GW was hurling pathetic insults around because I don't conform to his way of doing things. I'm just not awesome enough **sigh**
BMX = upside down
Roadie = Upright
IME only insecure little white sock wearing gimps will feel the need to verbally justify holding onto dated roadie rituals while riding mtbs off road.
Ahhh it makes sense now. Some archaic roadie bullshit that people cling to pretending that it is easier, when in fact it is an excuse so you don't get your bar tape dirty and scratch you levers. Give me strength.
I knew it couldn't be to do with common sense as those with an understanding of gravity can plainly see that it is logical to do it with the bike upside down.
Gravity works both ways you know, if you put the bike onto the wheel it'll fall into place, and be in straight. It's definitely not roadie bullshit, tis quicker and some find it easier, you presumably are not one of these people!
Nope I never stop on the mainline (comes from 20 yrs DH track etticate)
..and Not being the stalker you seem to be I didn't even know you had white socks or a gimp suit.
Sorry if I hurt your feelings 😉
lame 🙄
Just how long does it take you to turn a bike over? Unless of course your upper body is so under- developed that you have to wait for someone else to come along and help.
Upside down to remove, right way up to replace - just to be different.....
The only reason i wouldn't do mine upside down is due to the fork lockout on the bars (its only plastic), and air can work its way into the callipers, and i don't want to scuff my seat.
Is there another way than upside down? 😯
Unless of course your upper body is so under- developed that you have to wait for someone else to come along and help.
Hopefully not, because at least two people have said they refuse to help friends unless they turn their bike upside down. It seems that's the snobbery...
Gravity works both ways you know, if you put the bike onto the wheel it'll fall into place, and be in straight. It's definitely not roadie bullshit, tis quicker and some find it easier, you presumably are not one of these people
Yes, but you have to hold the bloody bike and hold the wheel at the same time! With the bike upside down the bike stays put and all you have to do is guide the wheel into the dropouts! One moving thing rather than two!
I cannot believe I am debating over something that is pure logic. 😕
maybe this has been answered, can't be bothered reading six pages, but what do you do with it once you have the wheel off if you've not flipped it? surely you don't lay it on the ground some other way, think of the damage! bent rear mechs, scratched chainstays 😯
see, she's cleverly rotated the bars so that the grips aren't touching the floor
Gravity works both ways you know
No it definitely always goes down.
It must take me all of half a second to flip my bike. I can't see how 1 second is going to hurt when I am mincing around Cannock Chase and it takes me about 3-5 mins to repair a puncture.
Oh noooo, iv found some scratches on my brakes from performing this act!
Never fear, I know some where I can sell them.
Generic pics to follow 😉
I've worked in bike shops and we also never turned the bikes upside down to work on them, BECAUSE WE HAD A ****ING BIKE STAND.
If you don't turn your bike upside down it's because you are a ****. How is that for sweeping generalisations, about as accurate as the cyclist vs people that ride bikes comment. Furthermore the shite about mechanical sympathy, I hate it when people use the wrong tool or something touches a stanchion etc. but moddy coddling your bike and being scared of scratching a lever is a completely different kettle of fish.
Give humans two choices, and they will argue for an eternity about which is the right one.
Next week - which side of the path do you cycle on?
Week after - Right or left for front brake lever?
Week three - ball or aerosol?
Fascinating, but we're all arguebotsnikk - Member
Give humans two choices
*taps screen*
are you ... a ... person ?
arguebots
Daisy, Daisy, give me your answer do
I'm half crazy, all for the love of you
It won't be a stylish marriage,
I can't afford a carriage
But you'll look sweet, upon the seat
Of a bicycle built for two*
.
.
[i]* as long as you don't turn it upside down to fix punctures[/i]
Dave?
Look druidh, I can see you're really upset about this. I honestly think you ought to sit down calmly, take a stress pill, and think things over.
😯 Seven pages? [i]Seven?[/i] Dear God...
Seven pages is one thing.
Seven pages in nine hours? Dear oh dear.
pfffft.... imagine getting off to fix something, bunch of poofs.
but there again,there's the simple amazement to be had by flipping over and making it go as fast as you can without hurting someone (dont even kid on you've never done it)
this has to be the most desperately depressing thread I've ever read on here.
Get. A. Life.
This in an exciting example of just how low this forum has stooped. I am actually astounded that people care even remotely enough to argu about it. As above:
Get. A. Life.
Initiate bike stands up on its own device - Flip
Personally - I find that on the current bike (2001 FSR running an SLX rear mech) it's easier to locate the wheel upside down, right the bike, back off the skewer so that the hub locates properly in the dropout, then tighten.
Although I'm more than happy if people put the wheel in with the bike the other way up so they don't scratch anything - more aesthetically pleasing second-hand parts... 😆
7 pages? (hope this waste of effort takes it to 8!)
I shall develop a gadget to prevent scratches while the bike is upside down
I think its called 'grass' teej
This in an exciting example of just how low this forum has stooped. I am actually astounded that people care even remotely enough to argu about it. As above:
+1 it's embarrassing... 😕 Wgaf...
No need TJ. It's They've already been invented and are called mountain bike gloves. They are nearly always multipurpose and can fit over grips or under bars perfectly whilst leaving hands free from gloves for maintenance.
I don't know why gloves don't seem to state this on their instructions.
Those complaining about the number of posts need to (a) actually read the thread to see the humour and (b) remember that the front page polls are designed to solicit discussion and therefore increase the page hit rate 🙂
Ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Seven pages... STW @@@@wits all over... 🙂
If you turn your bike upside down to do trailside repairs, how on earth would anyone passing be able to read your name and country flag on the top tube without too much neck twisting?
😉
Regardless of which way up the bike is I think we can all agree that the proper location for the bike is at 90 degrees to the direction that other trail users will be travelling and across the narrowest point for 200 yards in either direction.
This in an exciting example of just how low this forum has stooped
Glass houses. Comments like that nearly always lead me to look at the 'threads started' by a person.
😥
Glass houses. Comments like that nearly always lead me to look at the 'threads started' by a person.
Glass houses indeed - not seeing much inspiring in yours 🙄
I always turn my bike upside down to fit new cranks using a rock.
I don't fix punctures on the trail, I simply manual or endo all the way home.
RealMan - MemberI find that on the current bike (2001 FSR running an SLX rear mech) it's easier to locate the wheel upside down,
Where's the wheel? I can't find it anywhere. Ctrl + Alt + down - ah, there it is.
That's not my bike, though it is similar... 😆
Aah, I had a 2001 S-Works FSR like that one up there. The Horst pivot did protrude quite a lot on the inside of the chainstay, but it was still far easier with the bike the right way up!


