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i reckon the P45's are needed for the 32c crosswolfs.

 
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this thread is grinding to a halt and there haven't been any pictures posted for a while now...

 
Posted : 17/08/2014 11:19 am
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I have the SKS 45mm section Chromoplastics and they fit very snug over a 35mm Clement X'PLOR USH tyre, and fit perfect over a 28mm roadie tyre, for basic rain duties they are fine but on mud with a larger tyre they can clog up a fair bit and grind.

I'm going to try a set of the 50mm SKS mudguards so when i fit them i'll post a pic of what clearances i have with a 40mm tyre.

 
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Would this be a good bike for the [url=

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When using 35mm tyres what pressures are people using for a mix of tarmac and smooth trails?

 
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TurnerGuy - here you go: Friday night's foray before the weekend's weather turned pants...

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Predominantly road riding but some great hardpack/stone alongside a stream to get up to Lyme Park.

 
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19 pages on and my resistance to buying one of these has gone... 🙂

Sorry to ask about sizing again- have read through the thread and more confused!

I'm a smidge over 5'11" (32" inside leg), which has me squarely on a 57 according to the sizing chart but wondering if I wouldn't be better off on a 54cm. Currently riding a medium Yeti ASR 5c which fits nicely. Road bike wise, most recently had a 56cm Cannondale which felt a little stretched if anything and certainly think I'd have found it cumbersome off road.

I see there's people of my height on this thread who've gone for 54cm and others gone for 57cm - what nudged you one way or the other?

 
Posted : 17/08/2014 3:13 pm
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Thanks TLR, may be back for advice on the BB required!

As it stands, Freeborn are out of 54cm builds, with no more build kits anticipated.

Bugger bugger bugger bugger. Should have ordered BEFORE holidays.

Shiny Bikes appear to have frames @ 1155, but I can't get a build to £1900 try as I might. Will ask freeborn too if I can get my sums right.. but I've got a kitchen to fit, can't be seen to be bike fettling

Could push to £2K I suppose, how is everyone building their framesets?

Not sure if theres any 54 cms full builds left

 
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That might aid in the decision making process 🙂

 
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Bonjye - my bike (the pic up there) is a 54. I'm 5' 11" with a 31" inside leg. You can see the seatpost on it and it's a 100 stem I think? I'd be way out if I'd gone for the 57 - and the vast majority of my riding is on road too. If you're Cheshire / S Manc, you'd be most welcome to have a look if it helps?

 
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Thanks gonetothehills. No longer in the NW unfortunately, but thanks very much for your kind offer. The 54cm looks more my size than the 57cm and I'm certainly erring towards it (especially as I'll be doing a fair bit of offroad) but the size chart is putting me off a bit!

 
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700 miles on the Tripster now.

Gave it its first proper clean and polish today.
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Still undecided on the brakes, keep having to fettle with them to keep the power and stop them from rubbing. The shimano rotors have solved the judder and squealing, those TRPs are calling.

Only changes are:

SKS P35 (Long flaps)
28mm GP4 Season
Tubis Airy Ti
Madison prime saddle
Smaller headset top cap
Shimano Rotors

 
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@bonjye, im 5'10" 1/2 with a 33" inseam, mines a 54, the 57 headtube would have been to relaxed for my liking.

 
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Here's another offering. Picked it up on Saturday.
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Not a stock build. I'm 5'7" and went for a 54 frame with a 100mm stem and a 10mm layback post. Went for TRP Spyre SLC brakes which were a breeze to set up and seem to outperform my BB7 road calipers. They sure look much nicer with a lower profile. Also went with a 28h Novatech/H-plus Archetype/Cx-ray build for wheels. Rest of the bike is a combination of Ultegra 11sp 6800 & CX-70 bits and of course I had to match my trusty ti-swift Brooks with a titanium USE post. Still not sure about the red tape. I've done 50 on-road miles and as other reports, plenty quick enough and very comfy!

 
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No more 54cm framesets at Freeborn 🙁

So I have just ordered one from shinybikes.com for £1101.23 delivered - £3.95 delivery so probably Yodel :-(.

So I am going to need a new front mech and either a new seatpost or a shim for my 27.2 USE ti post - which at least would be nice and springy 🙂

 
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@Buzzlightyear - thanks for the sizing advice 🙂

 
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Some more nice pics. 😀

Hopefully I will be stroking a new frame this week but have to wait a bit longer for the rims. Let's not talk about this bimbo changing her mind from the original build. 😳

 
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So I have just ordered one from shinybikes.com for £1101.23 delivered - £3.95 delivery so probably Yodel :-(.

So I am going to need a new front mech and either a new seatpost or a shim for my 27.2 USE ti post - which at least would be nice and springy

If it's Yodel you'll need a Ti welder!

That seems a good deal, and has me thinknig again.. but I really really can't be building bikes 🙁

 
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Has anyone had issues with the stock FSA bottom bracket??
Mine was really creaky and despite packing the bearings with grease a few times, still creaked and croaked!

I've picked up some new bearings and new top hats to replace the whole spinning-gear. The current bearings and top hats are odd - like 'half' top hats (take the crank out and you'll see what I mean). I wonder if that's got anything to do with it?
It's easy enough to pull the old bearings out and replace, and hopefully it'll solve the issue!

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Posted : 18/08/2014 1:54 pm
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Hmm, just noticed the forks on the ATR are different to the CXds, wonder why....? IS brake mounts too 😕

Also noted the guard limit on the ATR is stated as 45mm, got 50s on my p6 (site doesn't seem to state largest recommended size), reckon 45s may be a bit tight for 35c tyres I normally run, but I'm guessing a bit of guard trimming may get the 50s to fit.

is it me or are most people running slicks? Is that coz most are going for "road and dirt road" rides rather than "xc and a some road" rides or just due to the dry trails meaning you can get away with slicks?

 
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@cinnamon_girl ...ye, I had my bike delayed by a good 10 weeks because I stubbornly wanted 28h American Classic hubs. Didn't get them in the end as I gave up on the wait!

 
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Mines road dirt road

 
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Has anyone had issues with the stock FSA bottom bracket??
Mine was really creaky and despite packing the bearings with grease a few times, still creaked and croaked!

Dunno what flavour the tripster has, but my FSA ISIS BB on my roadie does this - not the bearings though, it's in the BB shell. Removal and regreasing the threads with copper slip works for me when it gets beyond bearable, maybe you need some special Ti prep stuff though?

 
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Hi guys

Whether this is of any use to anyone or not I don't know, but if there is anyone in need of a 54cm frameset and you're Midlands based, there's one hanging up in the back at Fred Williams Cycles in Wolverhampton.

Basically it arrived for me but has a very slight mark down by where you'd pop your front derailleur (may polish out and is only a mm or two), they've looked at changing it for me but have been told October/November for the next batch of 54s (on the upgrade website it says "4+" weeks for all sizes at the mo).

Now the hols are over I'm not in any rush personally as I'll be back at work (bugger!), so I've said I'll wait as I can't really ride it/build it like I might for now (my next chance will probably be Christmas!), so if anyone wants that one at Fred's (great bike shop it has to be said - been going for over 20 years) rather than it sitting there (as in if you can't get hold of one?) then feel free to enquire 🙂 The price is £1274 for the frameset (they don't get quite the discount of the volume sellers like Shiny/Freeborn but still way better than rrp of 1499) but I'm sure they'd also be happy to customise you a nice build!

Might be helpful, might not, but the info's there if you want to/need to make use of it 🙂

 
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Mine is for dirt, dirt, dirt Donk.

 
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Donk - up until a few weeks ago (ie, for the first year!) I rode almost 100% on road. I just wanted a fast, light, comfy, disc braked road bike for commuting on along some pretty agricultural lanes and for winter training in the dark. I've banged on more than enough about how I soon sold my carbon road bike and did nigh on 3600 miles in its first year - and I've just discovered how well it rides on gravel and stuff too. I have to say, I was heavily influenced in the early days by a photo of one atop Mont Ventoux - sorry can't remember who's but it's connected to a bike shop on Shropshire, I think? Anyway - that was shod with some 25c Contis I think and mine ran fine, but 28c 4 Seasons were lot comfier and pretty much as fast. Fact is, it does it all so well. Loving it on 40c tyres now... Take yer pick - you'll be more than happy 🙂

Buzz Lightyear - don't think I've ever seen a better looking bike with a rack on it! Really nice build. James Gillies - welcome on board! Love the mix of red hubs and Brooks saddle.

 
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James Gillies:- how'd you find the 54? I'm 5' 7" , and was thinking of the 54. my road bike is only 1cm shorter on the horizontal, but this has a taller headtube, which will help my back. I've a 30" inside leg. (not being pervy) , what's your measurements. how's the standover etc.?
I've stripped my single speed blingy mtb, to put on fleabay, to go towards the frame.
after showing this thread to my riding buddy, I apparently now need to strip my road bike for the groupset and finishing kit, and get one of these built.
I'm torn between the 51 and 54. I think the comfort of the taller headtube on the 54, would make it more relaxed, rather than racy.
help please, as I want to order the frame sharpish.

 
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Just for comparison I'm 5ft 4 and ride the 48cm.. Inside leg is nearly 29".
Id say go for the 51cm but can't remember the difference in tt lengths between the two

 
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I'm 5'6 ish with 29" inside leg, I went 51 and it's perfect with a 90mm stem on it, stand over is just ok, I think I'd have struggled on a 54 off road.
For comparison, I had a 53cm carbon Cube Agree GTC road bike, the 51 ATR feels bigger
Hope that helps
Dom

 
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I'd get the 54cm. Due to a car accident years ago i had two shattered vertebrae removed (T6 & T9) and most of the rest fused together with a multitude of TI scaffolding and screws so your reason above is exactly why i decided on the 54cm. I used to be 5ft 9" but i'm now 5ft 5" (ish) with an inside leg of 32".

The 51cm prob would have fitted me fine but i'd need to have a stack of 50mm spacers under the stem (or thereabouts) so i'm glad i went for the 54cm as it has a much taller head tube as you've mentioned - It took me a few stem length/height/angle changes before i was happy with the position but i've had my tripster for over a year now and i can ride it without any neck or back pain for hours n' hours.

I've fitted a Thomson 90mm x 10° stem and 20mm of spacers underneath, i also fitted a Lynskey Ti inline post as the bike came with a 110mm stem as stock and carbon layback seat post which stretched me out a bit too much.

Use [url= http://yojimg.net/bike/web_tools/stem.php ]this stem length calculator[/url] to get an idea of position.

 
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Anybody had to face/tap their bottom bracket ?

 
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Hi all,
After reading all this thread I decided to join the Tripster brigade -
only to find no built up bikes available. So here's my question - how difficult is it to build one up myself - I'd love to have a go. If I order a frame can anyone give me a list of kit to get - I'd like Ultegra 6800(£499 at Merlin -do you just get a full road kit & dispose of the caliper brakes?), Spyre brakes - the rest of the spec on a ready made tripster on the Kinesis website would be fine unless you can advise otherwise. I'd like not to go too far over my £2000 budget if poss.
Here's hoping....

 
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Ultegra 6800
Yes
Spyre brakes
Yes
£2000 budget
No!!

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http://www.probikekit.co.uk/cycling-groupsets/kinesis-crosslight-disc-build-kit/10787991.html
Just found this - maybe I should get this & a frame - then upgrade as & when?

 
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Finally got round to a pic of mine. Currently with road wheels fitted - will also have a pair of rufty tufty wheels too. Stem / steerer still needs sorting.

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Pleased with the Spyres and how the old pair of Hope hubs I used built into a nice pair of wheels

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> http://www.probikekit.co.uk/cycling-groupsets/kinesis-crosslight-disc-build-kit/10787991.html
Just found this - maybe I should get this & a frame - then upgrade as & when?

If youve never bought from PBK there is 6.3% cash back with TCB and theres also 16% off with code SWEET16UK

 
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Thanks cloudnine,
I may see if my LBS will do the build with that kit, I should hopefully get under my £2k budget then 🙂

 
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anyone converted the cx wheelset tubeless yet with the crosswolfs and if so how ?

 
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I had a little accident on the way home from work tonight, A pheasant ran out in front of me as i was hooning it down a steep path so i popped a wee bunny hop to avoid it but on landing my chain jumped off the cassette and wrapped up in the rear wheel locking it up completely and bending the cassette, breaking the rear mech in multiple areas along with my hope jockey wheels, busting the chain, snapping the inner cage of the front mech along with snapping the mounting bolt and bending the clamp as it twisted round the down tube. And to add injury to all that i will need to replace 8 drive side spokes on my new Kinesis CX wheels, along with a skid patch almost through the casing on a nearly new £50 Clement X-Plor MSO 40mm tyre.

Weirdly enough the mech hanger is intact, and on checking it with a mech hanger tool it appears to be in perfect alignment 😯

Ho-Hum…..next time i'm just gonna smack into dumb as **** pheasants and impale their gormless heads on my front chainrings while i cackle insanely - infact i may just head out now with the van and take the shotgun - death to the dumb ****ers!.

I am now £160+ lighter, needless to say the parts are already ordered so i should be back on the bike by friday.

In 25+ years of serious off road riding i have never broke a rear mech or anything such as this, I hope to never break anything else for the next 25yrs as my arse is still quivering from the 30mph 40ft rear wheel lock-up down a rough path whilst in the drops.

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Oof...bad times....

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How long before clutch mechs on CX bikes then? Makes sense really

 
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Nasty. Where are you getting the Clements fae ?

 
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Gutted, Somafunk 🙁 I guess at least you're in roughly one piece.

My mech hanger completely exploded a few weeks back as a result of dropping the bike on its drive side at about 20mph. Lesson learnt.

I did stick the rear mech into the wheel on the original (alloy) Tripster, but that was entirely down to poor spannering on my part. Still - I got to singlespeed it for 20 miles to get home...

Hope you're back up and riding soon.

 
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But you stayed on the bike, good effort!

 
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Somafunk, gutted to see the back end pringled. thanks for the reply re: my size quandary. what is the standover on your frame. I spoke to shiny bikes today, who said I'd need a 51, and I emailed Kinesis, and they replied with 54. how much post have you got exposed, as your inside leg is 32". thanks in advance.
I've now go the wheels in motion, of selling all my single speed kit, and middleburn Rs8's. got permission off my wife, I'm taking my ultegra 6700 groupset, and finishing kit off my road bike, then selling the rolling chassis.
it's going to be my carbon hardtail mtb, and one of these, once they come back in stock in a month or so. I can pre-order it tomorrow, that gives me time in which to sell off my other stuff, and get the kit in ready to build this badboy for winter.

 
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I'm thinking i may have been a tad hasty in ordering all new 10spd Ultegra mechs etc, as i could use this mishap to go 11spd?……..I might just send CRC an email to cancel the order whilst i price up the difference.

And clutch mechs on CX bikes? - great idea - why is not already done?….or would XTR 11spd work ok with Ultegra 11spd shifters? - if so then thats what i'll do as my chain has came off quite a few times when hoofing it about on off road trails.

Any bike shop that has an account with 2Pure will be able to get Clement tyres as 2Pure are the importers, so that's any shop that does POC/Ibis/Crank Bros etc.

evilsovereign : I have 5" of post from the clamp to the seatrails on my bike, if you look back at some of my pics you'll see that compares ok to other folk's Tripsters.

 
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evilsovereign - have a look at pics of mine. It's a 54cm. I'm 5' 11" with a 31" inside leg. HTH. 🙂

Somafunk - every cloud and all that 😉

 
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Every cloud/silver lining and all that?……Hmmph, I wish my wallet had a silver lining as it is now decidingly empty after going Ultegra 11speed (i thought about Di2 but it doesn't make sense for such a bike) - still i guess it was bound to happen at some point - so that'll be me working the next few weekends to pay for this upgrade - £380 all in…ouch!.

If anyone wants a bargain set of near enough brand new Ultegra shifters and new Ultegra cassette then get over to the [i]for sale[/i] forum 😀

 
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New ? That will buff out ......

Just glad you are alright, that could have ended up with significant exfoliation

 
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Doh!…like an excitable schoolboy with a hedge find of jazz mags i scurried off thinking that £380 wasn't all that bad for a complete 11 speed drivetrain, guess who forgot to factor in the price of a new 11 speed crankset? 😥 , so thats another £150 ish…….Guess i'll be working everyday for the foreseeable future, at least i'll get to ride my bike to work and back.

Sigh……….

Cheap 10pd slightly scratched Ultegra chain set & BB on classifieds if any Tripster builders are after one

 
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Oh soma, that's really awful. 🙁 What a fright you must have had and do hope that you're not too bruised. Bloomin' bad luck having to replace multiple parts though.

Heal well. 🙂

 
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To satisfy idle curiosity...what does running a double achieve on a bike such as this? I have an inkling to upgrade my current cx so thinking about a tripster frame but with a slightly custom build and having liked the 1 x 10 on my arkose I am tempted by CX1 with a 38 or 40 front ring. A compact with 11 -28 cassette creates gear inches of 34.7 according to Sheldon whereas CX1 with a 40 tooth front gives 33.8 so hill climbing gear is sorted. Using the big 52 outer will give you some pace but the 40 front 11 rear will let you clip along at 26mph based on 90rpm so a reasonable lick. So, where does the benefit lie for a traditional road 2x set up rather than cx1 style? Do average/relatively fit people really pedal out over 26mph for sustained periods?

 
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Improved chain line could be one benefit of retaining a double on the front...

 
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How long before clutch mechs on CX bikes then? Makes sense really

To satisfy idle curiosity...what does running a double achieve on a bike such as this?

I dont have a tripster (but do have a disc cross bike) and run a SRAM type 2 mech, works very well. Currently testing an MTB chainset (28-42) ala the Planet X Ti thing. Needed an eccentric shim to get the front mech across enough to shift but now works perfectly, this gives me a nice low range but top end is still just about ok. Currently on a 11-32 cassette but the gaps are a bit big so will prob go to a 11-28 if i can. Dont see the point in going CX1 when a standard mech is cheaper.

 
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Just seen a Tripster on the workstand in Halfords.

 
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During Last season CX Nat series some where running single (1x10) with mainly a retainer ring, but no clutch mech, but that did not last long after a few had chain jumps/jams etc.
Also a few where running doubles but using really close chain ring sizes, say 40 & 38, (but mainly keeping it in the big ring) just in case they need a lower gear later in the race and if the chain does jump off the big ring it more likely to be caught by the inner one.
End of the day it what your legs and body can pedal and get away with.

 
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Gotama, I originally built my Tripster with 1 x 10, 40 front and 11-36 back cause that's what I had on another bike. It was absolutely faultless. Decided that I'd like a bit more speed on the road and put on a compact double with a 11-32 at the back. Yes a I've gained a bit more at each end but I can't stand front mechs! I'm sure it's my incompetence but it always seems to need some adjustment or other. Probably going back to 1 x 10. With a surly chain ring I've never dropped a chain on the South Downs.

 
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[quote> http://www.probikekit.co.uk/cycling-groupsets/kinesis-crosslight-disc-build-kit/10787991.html
Just found this - maybe I should get this & a frame - then upgrade as & when?

Am I right in thinking this is just missing a saddle??

Looks good to me, maybe buy this and the fram and stash away for when the nights draw in (and the kitchen is done :-D)

 
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Wrong, just spotted the saddle is in there too!

EDIT: Looks like a fair few components won't fit though, seat clamp, front mech, not sure on the BB. Might still be cheaper with a bit of spares bin raiding. Should get in under the magic 2K...

 
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Has anyone tried the Niner RLT and the ATR and how did they compare.

 
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Shock!, Dom is leaving Kinesis [url= http://www.kinesisbikes.co.uk/riding-new-path/ ]info here[/url], I'm sure all Tripster owners on this thread would like to wish him well in his new venture and we'll be following his progress on Mason Cycles with interest.

Best of luck Dom, although i doubt [i]luck[/i] will come into it, you don't build a brand such as Kinesis with mere luck - so what's on the cards for your first two frame sets?.

 
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I saw that too, somafunk. I'm absolutely chuffed to bits for him. There's a little twinge of sadness as there's clearly so much of Dom in the Tripster, but I can't wait to see what he does next. As I said on Twitter, if he pens something even half as good he'll be flying...

 
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I'm just worried he does something [i]tripster ish[/i] , that'd really bugger up my saving plans………..

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Posted : 22/08/2014 9:55 pm
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Yes.... Me too. But embrace the 'now' - it's pretty good and pretty much paid for.... 😀

I'm silly excited about next weekend's 3 dayer on mine. Mix of tracks and road, travelling light, not huge mileage but taking in Sheffield and down through the White Peak before heading back up to Macc. It's obviously meant 'investing' in a few new bits but the tripster's at the heart of it. Can't wait!

 
Posted : 22/08/2014 10:01 pm
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I was having a think about what gearing i want for the Tripster after browsing through the [url= http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/touring-bike-gearing ]Touring bike gearing thread[/url] and i've thought about another solution.

I don't really use the big ring that much on my bike for leg strength reasons (spinal cord damage) so i was considering a Jones Loop bar (there's one on the classifieds) and run it with a longer stem obviously, i ran a jones bar on my Soulcraft for a while back in 2005 and i was impressed with it, i could then go for XTR 11 speed with an XTR clutch mech and a 11t - 40t cassette

36 tooth chainring and 11 - 40 cassette would give me a very decent spread of gears, from a 24.3" climbing gear to a tarmac eating 88.3", seeing as my average speed on the bike is 12mph at best i don't really see the need for a 46 outer chainring.

It would prob work out to a comparable price to the Ultegra set-up, and it's got the important clutch mech for off-road duties, the XTR shifters would play nice with the Jones Bars, i could run some pimply Pauls cable disc brake levers and the Jones Loop bar has loads of suitable hand positions for touring and for gps units/lights etc.

Am i blinkered in not seeing anything wrong with this set-up?, the more i think about it the more it seems a no-brainer?.

 
Posted : 23/08/2014 4:38 pm
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Do you want to turn a lovely drop bar bike into a posh hybrid?

 
Posted : 23/08/2014 5:11 pm
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I can't ride in the drops for more than a minute or so at a time due to a fused spine so drop bars are pretty useless, i'd say 99% of my riding is spent on the hoods and i love the angle that woodchipper hoods are set at so the Jones Loop would be a very similar position.

It's all bikes innit?, no such thing as lovely drop bar/posh hybrid to me - It's a bike and above all else it should be fit for use which is why i'm considering the Jones Loop Bar idea…..if it upsets folk due to the monstrosity of the idea then i'm all for it 😀

 
Posted : 23/08/2014 5:32 pm
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drop bars demand STI units tbh. but it's up to you innit.........

 
Posted : 23/08/2014 6:10 pm
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In the unlikely event anyone's interested, I can update my tyre / guard status...

Having happily run 25/28c Conti road tyres for a year with the P35 SKS Chromoplastics, I flirted with wider tyres and enjoyed the 40c Land Cruisers, with the guards off, obviously. I opted to try some Conti Speed Rides - a development of one of their old CX race tyres, but now in a 42c width. All the reviews I'd read suggested they come up nearer 37mm so went with some nice SKS Blumels P45 guards. However - put them onto the sensible width Kinesis CX Discs and they come up 42mm. Don't you just hate it when these brands know what they're talking about?

So - they don't fit. But the 37mm Travel Contacts I've just bought do, so that's the current, tour ready setup.

There's a couple of pairs of [url= http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/fs-700c-gravel-tyre-bargains-altura-arran-bag-gusset-time-topeak-more ]wide tyres for sale[/url] if anyone's interested. The Speed Rides really did look like they'd be good and 420g for a 42mm wide tyre is pretty, erm, speedy.

I'm also trying to find a happy medium for a rear bag - between the Altura Arran - 5 litre seatpost mounted bag and a Topeak DX bag that's got the built in side panniers. What are these stuff sack based, post mounted ones that a few of you seem to have? I really like the low profile look and have a Deuter frame pack for odds and sods. Just think I need 8-10 litres at the back if I can.

 
Posted : 23/08/2014 7:21 pm
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Www.bridgestreet.cc

I should have gone for the large.

 
Posted : 23/08/2014 7:42 pm
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Very tempting. Just watched the video but was thinking the medium. I've got one change of lightweight clothes, very basic toiletries & meds, small first aid kit, basic spares and tools. No shoes.

Did you find a coupon code for the site? Did they deliver fairly sharpish? Like the idea of buying British too.

 
Posted : 23/08/2014 8:02 pm
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Next day delivery. Give Jonathan a call, nice guy !

 
Posted : 24/08/2014 5:51 am
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Cheers fella. I dropped him a line last night so will hopefully be able to order on tues. Out of interest, what did you fit in your medium? Did it sit far enough back using the high mount not to touch your thighs?

 
Posted : 24/08/2014 5:57 am
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Yes, it's a great design and oriduct. I carry a full suite of spares and repairs inc. tubes as well as lunch, t shirt, socks, pants, shirt, yoghurt, towel and facecloth. It does get full if I carry a plastic lunchbox.

 
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another question for you folks.
As I'm going to build the bike from scratch, which choice of brakes.
TRP spyre, or spyre slc, or the hydraulic ones? the slc's are not much more than the standard spyres, and they do look more discreet. is it worth £100 an end for the hydraulic ones? Hopefully i'll be back ordering my frame lunchtime tomorrow.

 
Posted : 26/08/2014 9:24 pm
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I would go for the SLCs - being cable they will be more repairable on the trail than hydros and it is likely that you will be covering decent distances on your tripster, so that might be a consideration.

Also some people report that some of the hydros are a bit grabbier than ideal on a bike with narrower tyres than a mtb.

 
Posted : 26/08/2014 11:19 pm
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There is the Hope V twin brakes.
Also I do have left the rare Kinesis Disc bike build kit left ideal for Pro6 or ATR.

 
Posted : 26/08/2014 11:44 pm
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Well I've done it. I've placed my order for a 54 today. should be here in a few weeks. Happened to pop into my LBS on the way home from work, came out with tyres and tubes ready for it. happy days.

 
Posted : 27/08/2014 7:13 pm
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Okay resistance broken down after 21 pages and too many views of your great looking bikes. Having promised to sell the grossly underused carbon roadie I am in. Anyone know of a better deal than Shiny bikes with 5% code on the frame (or is there a great deal somewhere on built bike)?

 
Posted : 27/08/2014 8:44 pm
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Bugcab,
get a frameset from shiny bikes, groupset from merlin, maybe wheels and brakes as well. it'll not cost much more than a stock build, and it'll be custom to you. that's what I'm doing.

 
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