Brassneck - mine was under 18lbs with a few carbon bits on it and 25c tyres, ultegra 6700 - nothing way over the top.
FFS stop it!!
So eventually (I appreciate the Freeborn build will probably be heavier, anyone got an out of the box weight?) it could be at least comparable with a Planet X or Ribble low end carbon? As thats what I would mostlikely replace the Giant OCR1 with, and look for a CdF on Bike2Work if it ever gets approved .. but a little weight penalty for 1 less bike and Ti I can handle..
Do Freeborn do credit or am I looking for a 0% card 🙂
Thanks to pryally, gonetothehills and birdage for answering my q. 8)
Thanks also to cloudnine for his pic and it does look good. Can I ask what width 4 Seasons you're running and is that an alloy seat post?
Many thanks to somafunk for an updated pic of his gorgeous Tripster. Another one wanting to know about the Ti seat post, what make is it and where from?
CG.. 28c 4season and a Crank Bros cobalt 3 seatpost from CRC as it was the cheapest i could find as id spent all my money on the frameset.
Got my eye on a Ti seatpost from taiwan for £40 but as i dont have much seatpost showing im not sure how much difference it will make
Brassneck mine was a 51cm frame, full kinesis build kit and shimano downhill SPDs and it weighed 19lb dead
Brassneck mine was a 51cm frame, full knees is build kit and shimano downhill SPDs and it weighed 19lb dead
Perfect, appreciated. Room for improvement if desired then.
Looks like I'll be ordering on my return from holiday.
Anyone 6' 5" running a 60 ? Can you get the bars and saddle at the same height ?
First weeks commuting completed. 260km of road, gravel and forest roads on the panarCer gravel kings and 34/50 11-28 gearing. Nothing higher would cope with my commuting roads. My knees are feeling it tonight.
The tyres are great. Fast on road, fast on gravel, secure on the dry guard pack. They don't work on or in mud I font think.
Frame and fork are simply superb. Perfect geometry, comfy and just about perfect.
Eccentric gage brakes are great.
Weekend off the tripster, up to aviemore on the carbon road racer, roll on Monday !
Another one wanting to know about the Ti seat post, what make is it and where from?
I'd lie to say it's a Kent Eriksen sweetpost but it's not, although i seriously did consider buying one, It's a Lynskey Ti inline post with an integral ENVE seat clamp, The clamp is a total fit n' forget item and i'm very happy with it.
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One thing i'm not happy about is my wheels 🙁 I've just realised i have a set of last years Kinesis CX crosslight wheels V2, and the new wheels i bought are Kinesis CX crosslight V3 - there is a slight discrepancy between the hubs on the two models so my dreams of being able to swap wheels in a flash have come to nothing as the discs rub when swapping between versions so i guess i'm gonna sell the V2 from last year and buy another set of V3 - bugger!.
I thought about keeping them but it's a hassle to set up the disc clearance every time i swap from my slick shod wheel set to my off-road tyre wheel set as fiddling with disc clearance kinda defeats the purpose of having two sets of wheels.
Anyone want a very good condition set of V2 CX disc Wheels? for £150 - i'll include skewers and two new TRP Spyre 160mm discs, still got the box that my V3 wheels came in two days ago so they'll be well packaged up…Ho-hum…...off to the classifieds now.
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Bugger about the wheels...
I've been playing around with mine - fitted 42mm tyres, but not yet ridden as plagued with a migraine today 🙁
Spent a bit of time sewing a partial frame bag - should just about fit my lunch for those longer rides!!
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DrP
Neat looking frame bag, but i guess you've had plenty of practice when stitching folk up 😀 , If that will just about hold your lunch i imagine you are talking about a continental style 3 hr lunch/feast?.
He carries a lot of food! But then he goes so bloody quick he needs to keep the fuel topped up...
BTW I got the 42C continental tyres off Madison as I work in the trade
somafunk - thanks for answering my q and am sorry to hear about your wheelset, what a pita.
Your welcome C-G, the wheels are a bit of an arse but another set have just been ordered from freeborn (don't want to miss out at that price) - hopefully the V2's will sell quickly on the classifieds otherwise i'm eating boiled rice for breakfast/lunch/tea for the next few weeks 😀
How can you tell the difference between the V2 and V3 wheelsets ?
47mm landcruiser fitted fine with plenty of clearance in the front.
Unfortunately same can't be said for the caliper and spokes. Rather than change tyres, used a Stans Crest wheel and some spokes were hitting the caliper. Least I know now.
There's a weight difference (V3 are 240g lighter) V3 have eyelets, and a slightly different profile to the rear hub
Birdage, space the disc out using Disc spacer shims
Birdage, space the disc out using Disc spacer shims
Aye done that myself to make different generations of Hope hubbed wheels play nice in one frame & disc brake.
somafunk - MemberThere's a weight difference (V3 are 240g lighter) V3 have eyelets, and a slightly different profile to the rear hub
I`ve just checked.....
mine have eyelets, other wise I'd have had your V2`s off you 😳
I'll give that a go, cheers!
Just spent the last half hour happily drinking coffee and reading this thread with joy. Absolutely beautiful frame but sadly way out of my price range! Any suggestions for a cheaper option at all? Not sure I have the patience to wait for the new Ace? Thanks
Last time i looked theres two 51cm decade tripster framesets (2nds?) in the upgrade bikes outlet £199
I'm 6ft 4 cloudnine 🙁
Thanks though.
Soo... bashed out just shy of 30 miles on the Tripster this morning, really to test out the 42c tyres.
By 'eck they really do make a difference to the bike!
Granted, the road speed is now slightly slower on the flat, but actually when really giving it some up the hills (on road) you can feel the rear gripping so much more.
But it's off-road the real difference is felt. I've been really testing the capabilities of the bike off road - not just on the simple dirt/gravel tracks, but proper stony fireroad, horse tracks, and 'light' xc stuff.
The 42c tyres transform the bike quite a lot - on certain stretches it was feeling on par with my 29er scandal in terms of 'what it could handle', albeit I was riding along on the drops at about 20mph off road!
It's not to say the original ride was a bad one, and I'll most likely stick the MTB 32c tyres back on as they probably given the 'best mix' of on and off road capability, but if you were to consider using this for mostly off road - stick some big rubber in there and this thing'll fly!
I'm going to given the SDW a go over the next few months (aiming for 10ish hours total) and I think the tripster and these tyres are the machine for it!!
DrP
What I found out this morning was it's not really working with a compact front and 11-36 out back. Jammed a few gears. Suppose I'll have to reduce the ratio at the back or return to 1 x 10 which was fine and simple anyway. Still got some nice speeds though and a refreshing dip in the sea at Rottingdean!
Hot of the bike stand! more info later off to ride it! 😆 😀
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I have one of those stands - look promising but in reality pretty poor so it never gets used...
06.40 on way to work on 24/07 :
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DrP - that's interesting, thank you for the tyre report. 🙂
MTB_Rob - looks like tubeless? Can't see what the tyres are but presumably road ones. Will look out for your first ride report. 🙂
t_l_r has a lovely coloured pack there. 🙂 Is that one of them 'gravel roads' that keeps getting mentioned?
cg - yep - i use the gravel and forest roads every day for my commute 😈
So.. after last weekend's cattle grid / adhesion / gravity debacle, I got to do the route I wanted to try out this afternoon. It was a mix of lanes and offroad sections - landrover tracks, hardpack, some old drove roads and a section of R55 - the Middlewood Way, that's easy shale / hardpack. I hugely enjoyed the bit up through Lyme Park that I'd not explored before - absolutely beautiful scenery and a surface ideally suited to the Tripster.
I'm getting used to the Land Cruiser tyres - the contact patch on tarmac is remarkably slim (hence why they don't feel too slow on the road, I guess) and I'm not 100% convinced in the wet, but on gravel, they seem to do the trick quite capably. The pic was taken early into the ride, above Pott Shrigley looking out towards Manchester and beyond. All rather good fun 🙂
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great pic 🙂
are they the 700 x 40 Land Cruisers?
Cheers, TLR - meant to say your commute looked grand too!
Nipper99 - yes; they're 700x40 wire bead. Not the lightest by any stretch of the imagination but they fit fine and roll well.
This is what you guys want..!!
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DrP
Hmm - tempting! What's it like on the road though? In reality even if I go looking for routes with good offroad sections on, that's still only going to be 30 - 40% max of the ride...
I've got the 40c LCs as they were cheap for the summer - I can recommend the 35c Kenda Slant 6s which come up the same size as the 40 LCs.
Went out with the local road club, Good first ride for the bike not so good for the rider, I suffered big time in the heat and lack of fitness (not riding enough.) Even got some PB on everyones fav GPS/route tracking website,
it is set up as a "road bike"
The bike handled it well. Comfy, responsive, handled really nicely, good and fun on the downs, just need to do a few tweaks to a few things but really happy with it
CG yes tubeless setup, Schwalbe "one" 28cc road tyres role well, need to tinker with the pressures, I think they can be a little bit better
I am really impressed with the ultegra 6800 11spd groupset rear shifts really nice, need to tweak/set up the front trim a bit bitter thou
Build went well, rear brake was a bit of a pain to set up for some reason.
57cm frame only was 1.56kg (3.43lb) frame & forks inc headset 2.08Kg
Complete bike is 9.53Kg (21lb)
Thanks for the update Rob. Will it be used strictly on the road?
Here's a pic of my recently acquired Tripster (from Freeborn) in it's element on the Pennine moors 🙂
JD
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You're all very bad people!
Well I'm off out tonight to thrash it about with the lads on their 150mm AM rigs....
I'll fill you in on the 'teeth shaken out vs miles cycled' count...
DrP
Ha !
That's like a super sized version of mine !
I take it that is the largest frame they do - it looks enormous 🙂
JD
Timbur, what wheels and tyres ? Looks beautiful btw.
this mornings commute :
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Oi, it's only a 57cm (but up close so it looks bigger, you know, like the cows!)
Wheels are XT's laced to Bonty Mustang rims. 29ers and built to last.
Tyres are Conti Cyclones IIRC. They were in the shed. It'll have slicks on for sunday, maybe on a spare set of wheel if I can juggle the disc spacing.
Started with silver Ultegra 6600 parts as they wer ein the shed but it looked rubbish so I had to buy some 6700 stuff as it was the right colour (bangs head on desk)
Only waiting for ano blue cable ends now and she's done. 😆
Nice build Tim. Can't believe no one has commented on the state of your garden though...........
I know, I need a gardener.
Wait a minute.....................
😀
(are you at the cafe on sunday?)
Amex Cashback offer on new cards - 3% back on first £2K of spending, 0% for 18 months.
Just thought I'd drop that in 🙂
Amex? Do bike shops take them :O)
(sorry John_l if you're reading this :O)
Can't believe no one has commented on the state of your garden though...........
Or MTB Robs flat on the landy?
Anyone would think this thread had some other theme to it, standards round here really are slipping!
Hi, Could any of the owners of the 57cm frame size bike give me an idea of the standover height ?
Um, seemed to have ordered a frame. 😳 How did that happen? 😆
well done c_g what size and how tal are you - i'm getting one for mrs TLR methinks !
Size 51 and am 5'5". 🙂
CG.. It was just a matter of time 😆 Bet you have looked at this thread an unhealthy number of times
Or MTB Robs flat on the landy?
not my landy! you should see some of the other vehicles here at the garage..........
Well done C Girl, that is a v good decision you just made!
Cinnamon Girl
That's the frame I've just got - 51cm - and I'm 5'5" and it's perfect
Super little bike that's making me smile every time I go on it.
I'm more if a trail runner tbh, but this seems a great accompaniment as it goes on pretty much all my running trails except for the very rocky sections .... fantastic on gravel or tow paths 🙂
Great decision to get one
JD
Thanks for the nice words guys. 😀 Will be some way off though due to availability of rims.
Is getting a little excited. 8)
CG - Yay! You won't be disappointed 🙂
Just been out on mine - Friday night treat of a hilly 20 miles in the rain. I've kept the 40c Land Rangers on and although it was all on road, some of the surfaces up in the hills are chronic so I'm not massively stressing about sticking the new pair of 28c Conti 4 Seasons that are kicking about the garage on.
In fact, it may be a few weeks yet as I've just booked accommodation for a 3 day tour at the end of the month - with hopefully a fair bit of 'non-road' built in... Macclesfield to Sheffield, via the Trans Pennine Trail, then Sheffield to Burton Upon Trent via a few bits of the NCN and some canal paths, then back to Macc via more quiet roads and tracks. It's not a particularly long or demanding route but I really can't wait.
i've done 500km on mine in the last 2 weeks in and out of work.
it's comfortable, stable and perfectly capable of road, gravel and a bit of rock, although i'm still curious about how long the wheels can last with the hammering they get in certain forest road sections, but so far so good !
it is however best on road with the panaracer gravel kings in 28c. they roll superbly and have enough volume to really smoth out the cracked asphalt thats all around us up here.
i think the Lyras are superb , especially in the wet, but reckon ultegra rim brakes have more bite in dry conditions.
what brakes / pads are you folks using out tyhere ? i may go for a pad / disc change before going for the SLCs
Are the spyres and lyras the same pad as Shimano M515 brake pads?
Spyres, yes, Lyra, no.
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mmmm...may upgrade my calipers then.......
Has anyone had both a Pro6 and the Tripster?
How does the Tripster compare?
I'm starting to think that I really need to scratch the itch that is a ti bike. I've been using the Pro6 for a bit of road riding but mainly using it on bridleways and singletrack around the Surrey Hills. I'm planning on entering a couple of the Central League CX rounds this season but I'm not sure the Tripster would be the ideal bike for it!
More gravel / cobbles / dirt / lanes / byways fun this morning 🙂
Cracking 40m route with four good offroad sections including Wincle Minn, which is one of my absolute favourite places to ride a bicycle on the planet. I reckon you can see 7 counties from it - and it's a really nice mix of gravel, broken tarmac and decent surface, right along a ridge.
Happy days.
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Got my 1st Tripster KOM today... Might start creating segments incorporating sections of really rutted roads and a bit of gravel track
Just to prove I do get out on a bike now and then! Watched the Womans CWG road race, ride, back to watch most of the mens road race.
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Nice road ride in the sun!
i LOVE my tripster - not been ridden since thursday but cleaned and greaesed at the weekend and ready for some multifunction commuting duty tomorrow 😆
Was out on mine today too, first time out with the 28c 4 seasons fitted.
Just as comfortable as the cross wolfs but much faster rolling and easier uphill !!
2nd set of wheels needs ordering though.
One for Tarmac, one for mixed or dirt rides
Spyre Calipers will be coming as well so I can fit the tubus airy cleanly too 
About time you scratched that itch C-G,
The final addition arrived for my Tripster today, a set of Paul Components 25yr Anniversary Skewers, a purely bike tart upgrade.
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Bought from AVT in the states last thursday, delivered today.
Too many upgrades there!!
After having a go on some, I've ordered some salsa cowbell 2, in 44cm width..
Seem really comfy with a tiny amount of flare. I think they will make the bike much more stable off road, without transforming the road side of things too much 🙂
DrP
Right, I've read this thread and a couple of online reviews of the Tripster and I reckon it's the ideal bike for me but I'm a bit unsure about sizing.
I'm 5'11" with a 33" inside leg and am currently riding a 54cm Pro6. The Pro6 is fitted with a Thomson setback post with 160mm of post showing but the saddle is pushed pretty far forward on it. It's also running 30mm of spacers under the stem.
I'm not really sure whether to go for a 54cm again or move up to the 57cm
Any suggestions regarding sizing?
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I'm planning on building up the Tripster with the component off my Pro6, hopefully it'll be a straight swap and I'll just need a new seatpost!
You'd prob be fine on a 54 or a 57. Depends how you like to ride it.
I'm 6'1'' and very comfortable on a 57 but I've got a fair amount of post out and a 120mm stem. It works for me. Will probably go for a 100/110mm stem when I find some time to change things around a bit as 120mm is good on the roads but is going to be a bit stretched when it goes bumpy.
Timbur.. i dont think the front mech will fit off the pro6 either...
edit.. just realised you dont have one but the tubing is different diameters between the two
You'd prob be fine on a 54 or a 57. Depends how you like to ride it.
I'm 6'1'' and very comfortable on a 57 but I've got a fair amount of post out and a 120mm stem. It works for me. Will probably go for a 100/110mm stem when I find some time to change things around a bit as 120mm is good on the roads but is going to be a bit stretched when it goes bumpy.
I've been comparing the geometry on the Pro6 and the Tripster but I really can't decide which way to go regarding the sizing.
I've previously had a 58cm Roubaix which was too big for me despite the person who did the bike fit saying otherwise! The 57cm Tripster seems a reasonable amount smaller than the 58cm Roubaix so it looks like it might be about right fir me.
I imagine that the longer head tube of the Tripster would do away with the saddle to bar drop that I have on the Pro6 making it more comfortable for longer rides.
somafunk - bloody lovely QRs!
DrP - I'll be very interested to hear how you go on with the bars. I'd sort of thought something similar but can't quite get my head around how the STIs sit on them.
I did my 22m each way commute today - borked after the three days of riding at the weekend, but didn't want to miss the decent weather. I snuck down the track in the LH pic on my post up ^^ there, riding it the other way for the first time, and in spite of stopping for a tractor, bagged a 4th overall on a Strava segment I didn't know existed. That aside, it was beautiful riding towards the hills on 8 and a half minutes of traffic free (bar the tractor) trail.
All very good fun 🙂
@notmyrealname - I'm six foot with a 34" inside leg, I went 54cm as I felt the stretch was too much on 57cm.
Got Bell Laps on my Tripster which are identical to the Cowbells and they are excellent. Fine on the road but it's off road they really come into their own, Had Cowbells on before but they were 46cm which was a bit wide, 44cm are fine.
Absolutely no problem with STI positioning.
Dammit this thread is starting to haunt me. Had my frame for 3 weeks now and still not had time to build it 🙁