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Thank you for your replies. Slowster your approach makes a lot of sense and simplified the issue for me. Thanks for taking the time to post.
This thread continues to give mature and useful advise.If only the rest of the forum was as helpful 🙂
Well done all.
I've added both V1 and V2 to our geometrygeeks.bike site [url= https://geometrygeeks.bike/search?q=brand:Kinesis ]here[/url]
Hopefully that'll make it easier to compare to what you're riding now!
PS I trialled one last year as an endurance roadie... loved it.
I've joined the cracked Tripster owners club. 🙁
60cm frame, cracked drive-side chain stay immediately behind BB shell. It's just under three years old, and has had a relatively gentle life as a winter road bike with the occasional summer outing on smoother Pentlands trails. Never raced, never crashed.
I'm not given to hyperbole or getting emotive, but right now feeling down in the dumps.
Took mine out in CX mode this morning, was bloody filthy!!! 🙁
I was pleasantly surprised with how well it goes on loads of different surfaces. 😀
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I'm quite liking this bike, it seems to be able to turn its hands to all sorts. Looking fwd to some light touring on it in summer
60cm frame, cracked drive-side chain stay immediately behind BB shell. It's just under three years old,
V2 warranty job for you then ?
I hope the top tube/steerer interface is a bit, erm, beefier
I've only 8 month's warranty left!DrP
Is it actually the case that replacement frames are only warrantied from the date of original purchase? Does the clock not get reset?
Warranty is from original purchase date (as a general rule) so if you get a new frame on the last day of your 5 year warranty (for example) then you have no warranty for the replacement.
Do you think it would be an option to just get a refund?
Vortex - I'm not sure how much confidence I'd have in a V2 frame with pretty much no warranty left. Kinesis may have reinforced the down-tube given other failures reported here, but mine went at the CS/BB.
This is the first bike I've ever had which has had a broken frame.
So what happens if a frame bought second hand or swapped to get a better frame fit cracks?
So what happens if a frame bought second hand or swapped to get a better frame fit cracks?
With most manufacturers the warranty is with the original purchaser and not the bike so if you bought it second hand you'll not have any warranty, unless you can get the original owner to submit a warranty claim for you which is a bit naughty 🙄
My V2 has been built up for a few weeks - had to swap the cables for new as the internal routing takes a longer path.
Went for Jagwire in the end - seems good enough.
Been out for a few road rides, and a nice CX ride..
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To be honest, it rides just like the V1!
I do like the neatness of internal routing, but it's not a game changer for me.
One sore point - clearly the V2 is designed to use the bolt through rear - I've the QR dropouts, and unless I'm being dumb, you can't 'drop' the wheel out without fully removing the QR lever as it catches on the dropout...hmm...
DrP
@ DrP - is that still the Mk1 fork you've got on it? I don't recongnise the graphics on the DS outer leg?
Are they Nano's DrP?
I got some from PX, and they seem spot on for mixed surfaces, even seem ok in mud.
Just won't fit under my pdw guards.
Just won't fit under my pdw guards.
got nanos under my PDWs - I have the city PDWs and I think there are other examples on here of this combo.
Mine are city ones. Maybe they need some Fettling. Job for this weekend I think
did you get the longer stays ?
no, I used the std ones, but attached them to the rack
I have given up trying to find the longer PDW stays 🙁
Charlie has the long stays in stock it seems :
http://www.charliethebikemonger.com/pdw-full-metal-fender-extra-long-stays-10201-p.asp
you need the longer stays to get the bigger tyres in.
Not for the 45mm guards sadly and hasn't had them for a while. Funny actually as am just fitting them to my Escapade town bike after they have been hanging in the garage for 2 years. 🙄
they are mk1 forks..but with a CtBM sticker on them!
And yes, wtb nano tubeless tyres..great bouncy tyres!!
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Loving my V2 so far. Messing about with some old bits before chopping the forks down and final gear choice.
I've ridden many bikes, lots of Ti, but this just feels right. Weirdly very quiet, extremely comfortable, it's almost has a "cocky" attitude.
Cross tyres on next, and has anyone seen the larger PDW guards on sale anywhere?
I have given up trying to find the longer PDW stays
I ordered mine direct from the states. Postage wasn't too bad.
Where from please Slackboy? Thanks
Oh and I never thought I'd say this about mudguards but the pdw guards do look nice on the Bike!
From the manufacturer [url= https://ridepdw.com/ ]https://ridepdw.com/[/url]
Although they aren't in stock there either at the moment 🙄
[url= https://ridepdw.com/collections/fenders/products/alloy-stay?variant=25408285505 ]City Fender[/url]
What do we all think of the new v2 fork?
I'm sure I read somewhere that it eliminated the flutter which sometimes affects the v1.
Also, it accepts flat mount which the gruppo I think I'll have to buy.
I wish they did the PDW city ones in black 🙁
I wish they did the PDW city ones in black
I was after the same so wrapped mine with 10mm wide reflective black 3M tape and they don't look too bad - and obviously have a safety benefit at night. Quite pleased with the result but think I really needed to use a 12mm wide tape to completely cover the circumference of the stays. Got it off eBay if it's of interest.
you are a much braver man than me 🙁
Looks nice though
Not me.. Just enjoyed reading the article.... Then happened to notice he was riding a Tripster
Thanks for sharing my blog was a great trip if challenging at times! Was hoping to do the ride on my Tripster V2 but it only arrived today. Super excited by my build on the V2, trying it with 650b to start with, 1x11 Sram force and a set of Ritchey venture flared bars as never quite got on with the midges' shape. Looks amazing can't wait to try it out later this week and to share some pics.
The Ritchey bars look nice.. been considering something with more flare than my cowbells. Let us know how they go..
Hi Guys,
Gonna be listings some parts for sale I've swapped out on my tripster shortly, DuraAce Cranks 50/34, DuraAce front mech, Thomson Carbon road bars, Deda zero 100 seatpost/stem/bars
Please take a look or drop me a PM if interested.
I'm currently Tripster-curious (new bike time always coincides with dark winter months). But I've got a couple of concerns / questions:
- the 3yr warranty seems very short (both my carbon bikes have lifetime frame warranties). What's the feeling on this?
- what are the typical weights of some of the lighter builds?
Hi,
just some quick photo of my new Tripster (it's a V1 frame). I wanted to share them here because I bought the frame after reading this forum. I put 650B wheels (even if V1 frame is in theory 700c only) with Rock 'n Road tyres (amazing).
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mmmm, I don't know if I'm doing something wrong, the image share from Flickr seems not to work.
sorry for the previous post, finally I sorted out the photo sharing from Flickr
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Hi all,
here's my V2 Tripster in randonneur fashion. Still have to try it with knobby tyres in gravel mode.
Great ride though.
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Andy - Member
I have given up trying to find the longer PDW stays
Don't bother. Just buy 5mm aluminium rod from eBay, bend it to shape over the guard and then cut to length when on the bike.
Out of curiosity.. What sort of weight are people's Tripsters weighing in at? Had a n+1 road bike urge yesterday but am thinking a proper road bike wont be that much faster... It definitely won't be as comfy.
9.8kg/21.5lbs for this off-road set-up (just weighed it on my x-tools bike scales)
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My X's weighed in at 9.6kg. V1 with 32mm gatorskins. She seems to keep up with roadies.
I've always been interested to know how much slower it was over a full on road bike. My guess, not a lot slower.
Daffy - Member
Andy - Member
I have given up trying to find the longer PDW stays
Don't bother. Just buy 5mm aluminium rod from eBay, bend it to shape over the guard and then cut to length when on the bike.
Yep I had already arrived at the same conclusion...
Funny coincidence - Email from PDW to say they are in stock only $5 but $13.50 postage on top plus customs.
My V1 Tripster weighs in at 8.3Kg with 32mm Schwalbe G ones onto Hunt Mason x Hunt 4 season wheels. Rotor 3D+ crank 1x setup onto Dura-ace rear mech, Enve seatpost,stem and handlebars, Enve forks, Enve bottle cage and Enve Garmin mount. Shimano hydro disc brakes. Fizik Aliante saddle.
Love my bike....
Thinking about doing some bikepacking on my Tripster... anyone absolutely love (or hate!) a particular frame bag? Any other suggestions for gear carrying? (I have panniers for commuting, so in addition to those)
Would anyone be interested in buying my 55.5 Tripster ATR V1 frame with 105 components (mostly from the Racelight 105 build kit) plus TRP Hy/Rd, before I put it on either STW classifieds or eBay? I'm located in Wakefield.
I almost went Full Dentist back in January 2015. Bought from Freeborn January 2015, delivered March. It took me a long time to START building it... literally a year. In the meantime I commuted to work every day with my first (built!) bike, a cheap £250 Ridgeback Speed, which I've been using every day since and is perfectly fine for my needs.
It has been on a 2.04 mile test ride, as measured with Google Maps, on a nice dry summer day. This was to try out some Tannus solid tyres (which were *terrible*, of course). I then got the rear disc brake mounting surface faced at my local LBS, and since then I've been commuting with the Ridgeback and haven't felt the desire to finish the Tripster build.
The Tripster frame has a very slight mark from when I took it to the the LBS and the drop bars rotated & touched the frame. The mark is hardly noticeable and will be easy to buff out, given that it's Ti.
All components have been fitted to the correct torque with a Norbar torque wrench. The bottom bracket is lubed with nickel based anti-seize, and I also applied a tiny amount to the frame where the headset touches the Ti (rubbed tiny amount onto gloves, then touched the inside mounting surface), so you will need gloves for disassembly.
Full setup:
- TRP Hy/Rd front & rear (fitted)
- The original Kinesis front carbon fork. The top has not been cut to size - it's exactly as it was delivered.
- KMC gold chain (fitted, plus spare new links)
- Thomson seat tube clamp, plus the original Kinesis one.
- FSA seat post & front chain rings
- Hope seat post shim & Hope headset spacer thingys.
- Hope Road Stainless Steel BB, with the interior lubed with Phil Wood Waterproof grease.
- FSA headset (I had to get a new one because the original was ever so slightly misaligned)
- 11spd cassette from the wheel
- You can probably also have the disc rotor & bolts from the wheels, if you want/need them.
- Original box for the frame, with packing foam & the clips (unused) to secure the rear brake cable to the frame.
- It's not currently immediately testrideable because I haven't attached the front & rear shifting cables or set up the derailleurs. The cables are inserted into the shifters, and I think I made them the correct length, but they're just dangling. The Hy/Rd brakes are all hooked up and work fine.
I'm looking for £1,400 for all the above. It currently has DMR V12 pedals attached, and a Selle Italia seat, but I'll remove those for later use/sale.
I also have other things that I've bought for this perpetual never-built build (this is embarrasing...):
There's the original wheels from the build kit (RS010, I think) that have never been used, RS685+RS785 hydro brakes kit (calipers+levers+cables+bleed tool etc, still boxed & unused) which will probably go on eBay in a few months, H Plus Son Archetype wheels with Shwalbe rim tape & never-ridden Marathon Plus tyres, White Industries CX11 hub (this was so expensive) at the rear and SP PD-8 dynamo at the front (both hand-built by a LBS w/ brass nips), a Tacx wheel build truing stand (my wheel building attempts failed miserably), King Cage Titanium bottle holder, Tubus Cosmo stainless rear rack........ all these will probably go on eBay separately.
Although I sold my car and am now car-free, I basically really don't need a posh Ti bike for long-distance travels - I've just lost the enthusiasm for it. I am, however, quite keen on something like a Canyon Commuter 6.0, so might end up buying something like that instead 🙂
Smarr.. I've sent you a PM
Picture of my new Tripster V2. Have been using it in the 650b set up, running 1.95 Vee Tire Rails and eats up rough stuff but still fast on road sections. Last weekend bikepacked a gravel route with more road so used the 700c 40mm nanos and not that noticeably faster. Here's details on my set-up:
[url= http://welovemountains.net/the-kinesis-tripster-atr-v2-reviewed/ ]Tripster V2 review[/url]
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@llatsni With bikepacking bags I genuinely think Apidura are about the best around and I've had the chance to use a few different brands recently (Ortleib, Blackburn, Alpkit).
So have I 🙂
eshoote really good review. Thanks for sharing. The Ritchey WCS Venturemax bars look intriguing. You say you had used Midges before. How do the compare to Midges, specifically the curve. Reason I ask is I find the curve on Midges way to tight for my hand size.
Andy - They're probably an inch deeper in the drop than the Midges so lot less tight in the curved section. The lowers on the Venturemaxs also sweep back further than the Midges which to me felt like they ended 2 inches short and my big hands kept slipping off the drops!
eshoote yes thats good to know - thanks. Midges are a no go for me because of the tight curve and i agree they also seem to end a couple inches too short. These look like a decent alternative to the silly expensive Woodchippers I was going to buy to put on.
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Finished the tripster at last: similar issues with getting my hands on the PDW long stays, but they arrived in the post yesterday! Built up as a 1x11
@eshoote: cheers for the bag recommendation... and for pointing out your blog... I'm reading through like a man possessed! 😉
Hello there,
has someone tried to fit the Tubus Airy rack with Avid BB7 disk brakes on the Tripster? They certainly don't seem to go together.
Antonella
For you guys who are running 1x11 set ups with 10/42 cassettes, how are you finding it?
Is it ok for road rides, are the gaps between gears too big or not?
I'm thinking about going for a wide range cassette on my Tripster with something like a 46t or 48t up front for road rides.
Out of curiosity.. What sort of weight are people's Tripsters weighing in at? Had a n+1 road bike urge yesterday but am thinking a proper road bike wont be that much faster... It definitely won't be as comfy.
I've always been interested to know how much slower it was over a full on road bike. My guess, not a lot slower.
Mine weighs about 9.5 in commuter mode (with guards and 37mm Voyager Hypers). And a smidge under 9 with 25mm road tyres.
In terms of it being slower. The single biggest difference between the Tripster and my race bike is undoubtedly how low I can get, as stack is quite high.
As an exercise in convincing myself I did the right thing taking the Tripster on holiday, I worked out how much faster I would have been up this 100 Climbs hill (Asterton Bank in Shropshire) if I had taken my race bike away with me instead. I used this hill, as the gradient is steep and constant.
https://www.strava.com/segments/739488?filter=overall
I put the numbers in to analytic cycling, and then reduced the total weight by 1.5Kg, the expected speed increase for the same power was 0.05m/s. That would have resulted in me saving about 5 or 6 seconds - meaning I would have stayed in exactly the same place on the leaderboard!
But I can tell you one thing for certain; going _down_ the hills around there would have been a damn site more sketchy with the China carbon rims on my race bike. 😯
Can anyone tell me which is the correct kinesis spare mech hanger.. Been meaning to buy one for ages
Can anyone tell me which is the correct kinesis spare mech hanger.. Been meaning to buy one for ages
The one you need will depend upon your frame number series, [url= http://shop.upgradebikes.co.uk/Catalogue/Dropout-Mech-Hanger/Kinesis/Kinesis-Dropout-9 ]scroll down the page here[/url]. [url= https://www.tritoncycles.co.uk/frames-forks-c6/frame-fork-spares-c152/kinesis-dropouts-p12080 ]Triton[/url] have no. 9 in stock, but you may need to go direct to Upgrade Bikes otherwise.
A long shot question.....
Has anyone ridden both the V2 Tripster and the Salsa Warbird Carbon and what do they think of them?
Has anyone got a recommendation for a half frame bag that will fit a 54cm v1 ATR frame?
I use a revelate tangle medium perfect fit, back country Scott in aviemore are the cheapest
Dc
Blackburn Outpost fits mine though there's not really room for a bottle cage, but it has a bladder port so I used one from a small camelbak that worked well.
How does everyone find the fork? I've designed my own Ti 'do everything' frame which is currently being built, and was considering this as a possible fork to go with it...
Has anyone got a recommendation for a half frame bag that will fit a 54cm v1 ATR frame?
I'm running an Apidura one. They have a number of different sizes. I reckon that the 'road small' may fit the 54". They have all the sizing on the 'technical specifications' tab.
Hi all.
I've just ordered a Tripster ATR v2 frame from my LBS, but I'm nervous they haven't go the sizing right. Hoping you Tripster experts and bikerbruce may be able to help advise?
I've ridden a Condor Mode titanium frame on and off for the past 8 years - absolutely love it, and had it fitted at Condor back in the day for L'Etape. It still fits nicely. As far as I can measure, it has a Top Tube Actual of 54cm, with a 110cm stem. Seat tube length is 55cm from midpoint to midpoint.
I'm 176cm (circa 5'9.5") tall, not hugely flexible at the mo due to fitness and rarely ride on the drops. My arm span is around 174cm, inside leg 32cm.
My LBS staff got confused while sizing me for a v2. Using a diff brand and converting the geometries, I was deemed right for a Kinesis 54cm frame, and it was then suggested a 55.5cm might work. While sizing for that, a more senior member of staff thought the junior had got his virtual and actuals mixed up etc. And said I was definitely right for a Kinesis 51cm, which is what is now on order (with a 10% deposit).
The more I think about it, I'm nervous a 51cm is too small.
Completely appreciate it's impossible for any of you to know for sure, but what's your sense of it?
Am so looking forward to the new bike and build. Hoping to do JOGLE and Iceland next year.
Just wanna get it right. I don't want a long stem to add reach and slow steering off-road, which I've heard can happen.
Is it usual for men of my height to be riding a 51cm Tripster v2 frame?
Thanks, everyone. Any insights much appreciated.
The tripster V1 and V2 have almost identical geometry, so anyone riding a 54 or 51cm should be able to comment
From my own experience, Kinesis sizing is...interesting, I'm 182cm with a 32cm inside leg and so should be on either a 57cm or 60cm according to the sizing charts, but have a 55cm which is near identical in size and shape to my other road/cross bikes which are 56cm.
My V1 was a 51, I'm 5'5" with short body but long arms and legs. Reckon someone up to a couple of inches taller than me would be OK but, sorry, at 5'9.1/2" it will definitely be too small for you.
I agree with Cinnamon Girl, 51cm for 5'9.5" would almost certainly be too small (unless you normally have a very large saddle to bars drop and aero position which you wanted to replicate on the Tripster).
I'm 5'10", and ride a 54cm V1 Tripster. 57cm is too large for me (despite Kinesis' own size chart indicating that should be my size based on my height), and I think I would probably be OK with a 55.5cm, which I suspect would give me a more touring bike position with slightly higher bars. I've commented similarly at more length to another poster querying the Kinesis sizing on [url= http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/tripster-atr-finally-built-up-lush/page/71 ]page 71 of this thread[/url].
Where are you based?
Thank you all so far. I think I'll query it at the shop in case not yet dispatched and take my Moda down too.
Slowster: I'm in Bristol.
Not close to me then, otherwise you could try mine.
I am a bit concerned that what appears to have been better advice from one member of shop staff was overruled by someone more senior. We all make mistakes, but the point of someone supposedly more knowledgeable and experienced reviewing advice is to spot and correct mistakes, not to introduce them. In situations like that in any business, senior staff should always be mindful that if a junior has apparently given the wrong advice to a customer, they need to take their time double checking and be absolutely sure of it and of their facts before saying so.
If they have made a mistake, I hope they will acknowledge when questioned and agree to change the order, rather than, say, suggest 51cm will be OK with the maximum amount of spacers allowed and a 10mm or 20mm longer stem. There is some overlap between the sizes by virtue of the scope to vary the amount of spacers and stem length, but if 54cm, or even 55.5cm, is the 'correct' size for you (i.e. optimum for you, your height, riding position, flexibility etc.), then that is what you should get.
I'm in Bristol (sort of) and have a 55.5, but suspect it'd be too big?
5'10 on a 54 here, i could happily go smaller, i could definitely not go bigger my stem is already slammed.
Depends on the type of riding you want to do on it.
I feel like buying beers all-round.
For myself, because I now have a 54" V2 ordered, along with the rest of what sounds like an exciting build.
For the team at the LBS; who to be honest, have just been brilliant. To update you all, I was initially sized at a 54, then 51 frame. I queried it and the immediate response was they would sort it out, change the order if required, no issues at all. Have just been in for a proper fitting, video, tape measured, old frame spec' d and matched, everything talked through, great conversation, no pressure, v enjoyable. Have every confidence in them.
And for you, the community on here. For the advice, the kind willingness from slowster and daffy to try their frames if practical, and just for helping.
Thank you, and I'll share the build when done.
smarr - I'm interested in your half finished build. I can't seem to send you a PM so can you please see my profile and drop me an email.
thanks, smurf
Signed up, just for this thread alone.
Some really useful stuff on here.
First post, here's my Tripster
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Nice V2.
I love the clean cable routing of the V2, the rear caliper being inside the rear triangle, and the fact it can run 140mm rear rotors (I would still run a 160 on the front).
I've come to the conclusion that I'd be better off with a full-on road bike again since I've only ever used my tripster on road. Over the winter it sat on the turbo trainer(!)
It's a 57cm V1 Tripster built with a mix of Ultegra-level (RS685 hydraulics) and 105-level components (mechs, cassette). I'll probably split and keep the components for an Aithein disc build, but please let me know if you'd be interested in a complete bike before I post the frame up on classifieds.