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you mean appears, don't you. The effective TT is slightly longer, but because of the slacker seattube more of it is behind the BB and the reach is less, like on their chart.

I think I am going to have to find someone or somewhere with a 55.5 to check.

 
Posted : 21/09/2016 9:04 pm
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Where are you TG?

 
Posted : 21/09/2016 9:29 pm
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Woking, Surrey.

Junction 11 of the M25 and then down a bit. Near McLaren/Apple.

 
Posted : 22/09/2016 7:33 am
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Cyclist magazine have a 'gravel' bike special and are showing the new ATR V2

Looks nice, they say it's compatible with 650b but don't say how big a tyre,

 
Posted : 22/09/2016 7:46 am
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I'm near Bristol (just outside Castle Comb) if you're heading down the M4 at any point.

 
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cheers, I have mates in Cardiff that I visit occasionally, although I have a lot going on at the moment so nothing imminent 🙁

 
Posted : 22/09/2016 8:03 am
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If I'm reading the Kinesis website correctly - is the warranty offered on the Tripster ATR only 1 year????

Seems ridiculously short, most Ti frames have a 10 year guarantee, even the ones sold by Planet X

 
Posted : 22/09/2016 12:09 pm
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Think it is 3 years

 
Posted : 22/09/2016 12:17 pm
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There is a frame info sheet on the website that says 1 year for all frames, even 3 years seems short

 
Posted : 22/09/2016 12:29 pm
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its three years

9. What is the Warranty Period on my product?: 3 years warranty for all frames, 1 year for paint and decals, 1 year for accessories such as forks, handlebars and wheelsets. These limited warranties do not apply to normal wear and tear, claimed defects, malfunctions or failures that result from abuse, neglect, improper assembly, improper maintenance, alteration, collision, crash or misuse. Installation of components, parts, or accessories not originally intended for use with or compatible with Kinesis UK frames and components will void any warranty offered by Kinesis UK.

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Posted : 22/09/2016 12:35 pm
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Its 3 years, i know, i claimed after 2.

 
Posted : 22/09/2016 12:43 pm
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@TurnerGuy
If you're wanting a try on a 55cm then drop me a line. I'm not far from Woking at all so you can have a go on mine if you want.

 
Posted : 23/09/2016 10:08 am
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whitecitadel: di2 on a tripster is also great because you can add shifters too the ends of your aerobars. Great for long-distance bike packing.

I'd fit MTB gears if starting from scratch. 30/32 is too high for repeated 20% hills and a fully loaded bike unless you are *very* fit.

Yes I saw that Mike Hall did that on his bike, very flexible (expensive) system. I have been doing some calculations and the XT really is great value, and from what I read as long as you run front/rear mech the same as MTB or Road you can mix - so you could go XT with drop bar RS785 shifters (hydraulic a must for me).

Depends what your riding I suppose, and how long its uphill, I can climb the big hill on local MTB route I ride on 24/22 (1.09), and 30/32 gives 0.983 - but that's not "repeated hills" as you suggest. I actually just bought some 30/42 XTR cranks I might put on, the chainline is not identical to road though - might need creative spacing.

Of course if you went di2 with MTB shifters you could run a triple!

Waiting for pic of v2 frame at bike show at NEC, anyone seen one?

 
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@TurnerGuy
If you're wanting a try on a 55cm then drop me a line. I'm not far from Woking at all so you can have a go on mine if you want.

thanks for the offer, will get in touch !

 
Posted : 23/09/2016 12:18 pm
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have been doing some calculations and the XT really is great value, and from what I read as long as you run front/rear mech the same as MTB or Road you can mix

So,does this mean I can use RS785 levers with Di XTR rear mech on a 1X11 set up? 'Cos my lbs said I couldn't.

This was my hoped for set up on the V2 ATR when it becomes available.

 
Posted : 23/09/2016 1:09 pm
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R785s works perfectly with XTR11 Di2 or Alfine 11 Di2 for a 1*11 setup. I don't see why you would, but it works fine.

I've done this with both, it works just fine.

There are (solvable) complications with front mechs and firmware, but the rears work fine.

 
Posted : 23/09/2016 2:17 pm
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Anyone tried the Schwalbe g-one tyres?

 
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My Tripster is reborn with Ultegra Hydro 2x11 kit... and I'm delighted! Such a nice road bike now. 52-36 up front, 11-32 out back is a simply brilliant range of gears for me. Brakes and shifting are sublime too.

Might swap out the 30c S-One's (33mm wide on my Grails!) for something faster now. Hearing bad reliability reports for the Pro-One's - can anyone here comment? Or recommend something else tubeless, fast and reliable?

 
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you could go XT with drop bar RS785 shifters (hydraulic a must for me).

This is probably how my Tripster will end up when I wear out my Di2 road FD/RD. I have RS785 brakes at the moment and they are fantastic.

Depends what your riding I suppose, and how long its uphill, I can climb the big hill on local MTB route I ride on 24/22 (1.09), and 30/32 gives 0.983 - but that's not "repeated hills" as you suggest.

I like riding [url= http://audaxclubhackney.co.uk/events/greenwich-mean-climb/ ]this kind of thing[/url] as well as 200-400km/day touring 🙂

(I also got my numbers wrong - the front is a normal Ultegra compact which is 50/34 giving an effective ratio of 1.06.)

Of course if you went di2 with MTB shifters you could run a triple!

What I really want is to gain 100W on my FTP and lose 5-10kg...

 
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Might swap out the 30c S-One's (33mm wide on my Grails!) for something faster now. Hearing bad reliability reports for the Pro-One's - can anyone here comment?

I've got 30c S-Ones on my winter/exploring wheels and 25c Pro-Ones on my summer wheels. I've put a bit more than 1500 miles on both sets with no issues.

They both ride well and are both far better than the Sector 28s I tried before. Very easy to set up as well.

 
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Hearing bad reliability reports for the Pro-One's - can anyone here comment? Or recommend something else tubeless, fast and reliable?

Have run 28c pro ones tubeless since April and can't fault them. Couldn't get them inflated with just a track pump but fine with co2 or an airshot. No known punctures, fast rolling and good in the wet.

 
Posted : 27/09/2016 3:13 pm
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I've been rebuilding the Tripster today and removed the current 1x11 set up and instead set it up as 2x11 with a compact up front.
After much faffing about I remembered why it is that I don't have front mech's on any of my bikes. Bloody horrible things.

Anyway, after much faffing the front shifting still isn't great so it got me thinking.......

The compact with an 11/28 cassette gives me a spread from 32.8 to 122.7 gear inches.
With a 46t single ring and an XT 11/40 cassette the gear spread would be from 31.1 to 112.9
According to my workings out I'd only really lose the equivalent of 50/11 from the double set up and if I went to a 48t single ring up front I'd have virtually the same spread as a double.

Is there any reason that I shouldn't run the Tripster with 1x11 running a 46t or 48t up front?
I'd be using an XT or XTR rear mech with a Tanpan so it would still work with my Ultegra shifters.

 
Posted : 30/09/2016 6:59 pm
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Is there any reason that I shouldn't run the Tripster with 1x11 running a 46t or 48t up front?

Depends on how you use it. If you do a lot of road miles training, then the smaller gaps between gears allows you to keep a steady power and cadence more easily. If you just ride around for pleasure the whole time, then you just ride a bit slower if you don't have the exact gear you want.

 
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At 100rpm 50x11 is about 36mph vs 33mph for 50x12.

So you might need the gear depending on your natural cadence.

 
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Is there any reason that I shouldn't run the Tripster with 1x11 running a 46t or 48t up front?
I'd be using an XT or XTR rear mech with a Tanpan so it would still work with my Ultegra shifters.

Have you tried a gear calulator? Here are your two setups:
[url= http://www.gear-calculator.com/?GR=DERS&KB=34,50&RZ=11,12,13,14,15,17,19,21,24,28&UF=2150&TF=90&SL=2.6&UN=KMH&GR2=DERS&KB2=48&RZ2=11,13,15,17,19,21,24,27,31,35,40&UF2=2150 ]HTML 5 Gear Calculator 34t/50t & 11-28 vs 48t & 11-40[/url]
(you may need to select "gear inches" from the Display drop down to refresh the page after it loads).

Your gear range is basically the same, but you have 13-15% gear step on every shift with the single chainring, if you have the double compact you get close spacing above 22kph.

Personally I find more gears is more when touring around, more choice, better match to cadence.

 
Posted : 03/10/2016 8:50 pm
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Few things to some post in the last few pages,
Some great info on gear, front chain ring sizes etc, good timing as I been asked to spec/do a interesting build!

Alloy nipples, look at Crosslight HD wheel set they come with brass nipples as standard.

Pro 1s, been running 28 tubeless with no issues, think they been great, and holding up v well, Not tried S ones yet (they turned up after a event I wanted them for) but might be fitting G one soon.... as they sitting there calling out to be fitted... 😈 But really I need to swap stans alpha 400 rims for the grail ones.

Daffy, not far from me 😉 if you passing Devizes way pop/let me know be good to meet you!

 
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Have you tried a gear calulator? Here are your two setups:
HTML 5 Gear Calculator 34t/50t & 11-28 vs 48t & 11-40
(you may need to select "gear inches" from the Display drop down to refresh the page after it loads).

Your gear range is basically the same, but you have 13-15% gear step on every shift with the single chainring, if you have the double compact you get close spacing above 22kph.

Thanks for that link. I was using the Sheldon Brown gear calculator but the one in your link is much better.

Still not 100% sure on whether I'm going to stick with the 1x set-up or whether I should go Di2 with a compact.
My current thinking is to go to 2x11 Di2 with Ultegra hydraulics and an XT rear mech to take advantage of the clutch. After doing a bit of reading yesterday I'm not sure yet whether I'd need the XT front mech as well or whether I would be able to use the Ultegra one.
Part of my thinking is that it would be quite easy to switch between 1x and 2x set-ups by just removing the front mech and swapping chainrings, no messing about with cables!

 
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My understanding is you can't match road/MTB mech's front/rear.

You can run both MTB mechs, or both road mechs, with any shifter, but you can't mix the mech's. I am no expert, I just read the internet. There was more on this a page or two back.

Also, see: [url= http://e-tubeproject.shimano.com/pdf/en/HM-CC.3.0.0-01-EN.pdf ]http://e-tubeproject.shimano.com/pdf/en/HM-CC.3.0.0-01-EN.pdf[/url]

If your buying now, you want the latest bluetooth battery (external or seatpost) and either the XT MT800 display or the EW-WU101 wireless unit so you can adjust settings from a phone/tablet via bluetooth would be my advice. Again, not an expert - just pricing out options for my tripster build 😉

 
Posted : 05/10/2016 7:05 pm
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I'd been hunting about for the etube compatibility chart but only found it today, looks like I'll be needing XTR front and rear mech's if I want it to work the way I'm planning.

I'm a bit disappointed that when I spoke to Upgrade last month before I bought the frame they told me that there was no sign of the v2 frame and if there was going to be one it wouldn't be until mid to late 2017 🙁

I'm not too keen on drilling the frame to run it internally with it being a new frame so it looks like I'll be needing the external battery and holder. I'll need to read up on the bluetooth battery as I didn't realise that you could get one, I thought you just needed the dongle thing.

 
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25c Pro-Ones installed and I love them. Compared to the S-Ones:

They're light! They weighed in at 275 & 257g (IIRC the s-ones were in the 350g region)

They're still pretty wide: Come up to 28.5mm @ 110psi on my Grails

They're fast: It feels a lot easier to accelerate, and maintain speed

Lastly, they're comfy! I think I might have been doing it wrong with the S-Ones, maybe I was running the pressures above their sweet-spot, because the Pro-Ones feel more compliant at a similar % of max pressure - despite losing 4.5mm of girth to the S's

 
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Advice please. I have just entered the 2017 Majorca 312. I was planning to buy a Kinesis Gran Frondo Disc frame and build it up, but looking at the geometry and weight of the ATR its not a million miles apart.

Could I / should I use my ATR for the event? It has a full Ultegra 11 speed group set and hydraulics, a carbon seat stem, 3T Ergonova bars and stem and Hunt 4 Season wheels on it at the moment with Strada Bianca 30mm tyres.

Its a lovely ride, however, I was thinking of fitting it with Hunts's 30Carbon Aero Discs, Dura Ace crank and rear mech and fitting a carbon stem.

https://www.huntbikewheels.com/collections/road-disc-wheels/products/hunt-30carbon-aero-disc-road-wheelset-1319g-30deep-27wide-999-pre-order-nov-wk4

What are peoples thoughts on this and its suitability for the Majorca 312?

 
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Hi all, great to see this thread alive still. I'm looking to replace the headset on my tripster but have been advised by a dealer the only replacement available is the FSA headset that the bike was supplied with. It seems a bit crazy that a mass produced bike only has one option in this regard, and I was rather hoping to get something blingy like a Chris king. Has anyone fitted a non fsa headset?

 
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What are peoples thoughts on this and its suitability for the Majorca 312?

Could I / should I use my ATR for the event?

Could you? For sure. I have started taking my Tripster away with me instead of my race bike. I stick some 25mm Open Pave tyres on and swap the seatpost+saddle.* Sure, it's 2Kg heavier, but the ride is great. I love the way the bike rides. I have the position set up almost identically to my race bike (there is 2cm more stack). The only time I'd wish for my race bike was when I was having a proper crack at some of the 100 climbs segments on Strava.** The rest of the time, the weight difference is irrelevant, and I don't even think about it. I also have a GS mech to take a 32 cassette. Perfect for spinning up those silly hills.

Those Hunt wheels would save you 200g. Not a great deal. They're only a few mm deeper, so wouldn't be much more aero. But over 300km, with all that climbing, they would make a bit of difference.

Maybe the bigger question is how would *you* feel about riding it? What do you want to get out of the day? Are you riding just for the thrill of it? Are you trying to set a top time? Are you trying to ride against your mates?

* I just swap the one from the other bike, as I usually have a seatpack mount on for commuting.

** I'm fairly certain I would've got second on these 2 with a 2Kg lighter bike.
- Asterton Bank ( https://www.strava.com/segments/739488)
- Burway ( https://www.strava.com/segments/6681340)

 
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Hi all, great to see this thread alive still. I'm looking to replace the headset on my tripster but have been advised by a dealer the only replacement available is the FSA headset that the bike was supplied with. It seems a bit crazy that a mass produced bike only has one option in this regard, and I was rather hoping to get something blingy like a Chris king. Has anyone fitted a non fsa headset?

I thought Tripster was FSA No42 tapered? I am using an Aerozine on my carbon MTB with the same headset - should be lots choice?
Not sure you can use external Chris King if its internal headset though?

 
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Anyone heard anymore on the v2 frame? The large 60cm frame was no longer listed on the upgrade website when I looked the other day.

If it does not appear soon, likely to buy a Mason Bokeh (alu) instead!

 
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Thanks matts. I think i'll use the Tripster and just adapt it. I'm just looking to complete / survive the event in the time limit. Comfort will be a big part of enjoying the ride so the Tripster makes sense.

I think i'll invest some of the money I was going to use for the Gran Frondo in making the bike lighter. I've also got a stone I can lose to help. 😆 If nothing else, it'll help psycologically!

 
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I appear to have 'joined the club' 🙄

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Ive had my tripster for a few months now, building it with 105 and Hunt cross wheels. Last Saturday was probably the best bike ride I've ever had, riding on quiet lanes and then getting lost on canal and bridle paths. If it were not for the trusty gps flag on my favourite café I'd still be out there now. Its truly a fantastic bike. Here's the bit that's going to get everyone moaning at me though! I think Kinesis have pushed the ATR description a bit tooo far. Adventure? Yep. Touring? Deffo. Race? Er...sorry..no. I know I could make it lighter by spending a few (hundred) quid, but I went out on my elderly VN Yukon yesterday, and the difference on road was night and day. As I say, this is a great bike, and we all knew there would be compromises when we bought one, but a true roadie this frame ain't. Is there enough in my wallet for a GF disc too? Hmmm...

 
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I always thought the 'Race' referred to CX racing, not road racing.
No idea what it'd be like for CX racing either mind you!

 
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My CX Racing on it will, be very limited, that's for sure. 😯

It's my winter and wet commuter/light Touring/bridleway/canal path etc etc bike.

 
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I've spent a happy year on a Kinesis 4S Disc, which is built with around Racelight Disc wheels and 105. I also have a Surly Ogre for around town and family duties (plus a MTB of course).

My riding is based around a regular 15-mile urban commute, 30-50-mile sociable road rides with mates and some touring. I've also got a 140km sportive in the diary for 2017; I usually do about 3-4 of these a year.

I had been thinking of replacing the 4S with an even more road-focused machine (swapping the 4S for commuting duties), but I've been looking instead at the Tripster ATR and Grand Fondo frames. I'd possibly have no need for the Ogre / 4S as a second, utility / commuter bike at that point.

I'm sorry if this has been answered on the thread already, but how have people decided between the GF Ti and Tripster? How do they do as an only road machine?

Thanks 🙂

 
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Wondered when you'd report here. Good to see ya got it ok and looking FWD to first ride reports

 
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My riding is based around a regular 15-mile urban commute, 30-50-mile sociable road rides with mates and some touring. I've also got a 140km sportive in the diary for 2017; I usually do about 3-4 of these a year.

Thats pretty much what I use my tripster for. I'm not a fast rider so the tripster suits me very well. I have it on 35mm challenge strada tyres. It rolls well and is really comfortable. I'm not any slower on the tripster than I was on my old ribble.

 
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By "racing" I think they mean stuff like the Transcontinental Race rather than urban fixed gear crits, no?

Can't race a TT bike in every competition either even though no one would quibble that they are race bikes.

 
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I'm sorry if this has been answered on the thread already, but how have people decided between the GF Ti and Tripster? How do they do as an only road machine?

For road only, I would go with the GF. It will take reasonably big tyres, guards, a rack, etc. But the geo is more road oriented. The big advantage of the Tripster is the clearances for bigger, knobbly tyres, and the more relaxed geo for offroading. If you have another bike specifically for that, then I'm not sure the Tripster has any major benefits.

Also, until the Tripster V2 arrives, the GF looks a bit sleeker (IMHO) due to the flat-mount calipers and internal routing.

I'm not sure if the GF frame is any lighter, but the fork is a few g lighter.

 
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Wondered when you'd report here. Good to see ya got it ok and looking FWD to first ride reports

🙂

This Conservatory Ceiling is getting the way of bike building, 5m lengths of plastic and wood means I can't get to the bloody thing 🙁

 
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Thought I'd post some love for my tripster. Bought it in the January sales and without being used much until March it did feel like an unnecessary indulgence. Then....

I took extended parental leave...

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Went touring...

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Bit of "gravel"..

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Went touring again...

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And it has been an overkill 20 mile/day commuter in between.

It's an awesome bike, I love it.

 
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Well I'm hoping my will be used in as many guises as yours, inc a 25 mile either way Commute in the depths of winter. Lets hope it's as good as you lot say 😯

 
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What size stem are people running on their tripsters? (especially anyone with a 57cm or 60cm frame...)

 
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Think I am running a 90 on a 57 inch frame - feels just about right for me 🙂

Does anyone have any clear details of the version 2 frame - all I can find is rumours and no definitive answers ?

Lee

 
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90 on a 57 here too. Use it with regular drops (for me it's a glorified all-weather road bike for the crappy country roads around here). Might want a bit shorter if using off road. I did try with woodchippers but as that wasn't really how I ended up using the bike, I swapped to drops.

 
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I have a 130 on my 57 most of the time with Cowbell bars. When I did the SDW I put on a 110. No issues with the handling, even if the suggestion is to run a shorter stem.

 
Posted : 07/11/2016 8:25 pm
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Built yet, Vortexracing ?

 
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Does anyone have any clear details of the version 2 frame - all I can find is rumours and no definitive answers ?

Lee

Here you go:
[url= http://shop.upgradebikes.co.uk/Catalogue/Frames/Kinesis/Tripster-ATR-V2 ]http://shop.upgradebikes.co.uk/Catalogue/Frames/Kinesis/Tripster-ATR-V2[/url]

£1850 RRP with no fork or headset included any more, not seen details of the forks but if you look at the pictures the old pictures we have seen before have a post mount front fork (same as the upgrade catalogue from May on Issuu) that is curved, the new pictures have a straight fork with a flat mount brake.

The problem, for me, is that while it has everything I was waiting for (flat mount, internal routing, bottle boss under downtube) if its over £2k for a frameset with fork your now into some serious money and there are a lot of players in this space - at £1350 street price for v1 [i]with[/i] fork and headset they were playing in their own league/space pretty much.

They will be buying the frames in roubles or dollars, so I guess some is Brexit, but other is just price hike. GF Ti Disc at ~£1600 street price £1800 RRP with fork and headset was what I was expecting.

Might get a Mason Bokeh instead, its Alu not Ti (they have a Ti model coming, but its £2.5K I read on road.cc) but I think Kinesis went to far with the price increase 🙁

Guess total frame price will depend on how much the [i]"optional"[/i] fork is...

 
Posted : 08/11/2016 9:58 am
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Thanks for answers on stem length, I had read a "short" (in road terms) stem was the right choice for the Tripster, I will look at a 90mm or 100mm I think (186cm/6'2" here)

 
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Glad I bought mine when I did. Would not be able to afford the new one and the changes made don't make it any more desirable.

 
Posted : 08/11/2016 1:35 pm
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That seems very expensive for the V2 Tripster.
Before I bought my Tripster frame I was having a hunt around for alternatives and from what I remember the Enigma Ecroix was about that price and that was for frame and forks as well as being custom sized!

 
Posted : 08/11/2016 4:55 pm
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I've just had a V2 delivered and in the process of building it up - it replaced my cracked V1.

Some lovely touches -
Flat section under the TT for shouldering - nice
Bottle bosses UNDER the downtube - fuel bottle storage..
Internal routing - neat, but now need new cables
Bolt through rear - I don' think I can change my V2 Kinesis CX hubs, so will get the QR dropouts when they turn up at upgrade.

Cool decals too!

DrP

 
Posted : 08/11/2016 5:18 pm
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There must be a good reason for the rear mudguard mount facing down but tell me how to install mudguard (sks chromoplastic) to ensure maximum tyre clearance? By drilling a hole to the mudguard and running the screw through it?

 
Posted : 09/11/2016 3:59 pm
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That seems very expensive for the V2 Tripster.

It does, especially when you look back to the start of the thread and see that people were buying the full bike for less than that!

 
Posted : 09/11/2016 4:06 pm
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oof... Just seen the Upgrade website - £1850 for the frame, when yes, I paid £1795 for the whole bike 2 years ago....

Blimey.

DrP

 
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Prices on everything are up for sure, so its not all increase, but over £2k with fork and headset (lets guess at £2200) puts it really in the big leagues with Enigma, Moots, the Mason TI Bokeh and a lot more "bespoke" frames.

I think the tripster is a great frame, and have been waiting all summer to get a V2 when it came along... but lets face it - it is a mass produced frame from a Russian or Chinese factory. PlanetX are knocking these sort of frames out at £1000 (currently with 25% off as its the end of the world), I can see how the market might support £1600 shop price for Tripster V2 like the GF Ti, but I for one am not prepared to pay new pricing for V2 Tripster.

Which is kind of a bummer, as all the 60 and 57cm V1 frames are now out of stock... and I already grabbed some Shimano hydraulic shifters with flat mount brakes before the price of those went up any more 🙁

 
Posted : 09/11/2016 4:26 pm
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I already grabbed some Shimano hydraulic shifters with flat mount brakes before the price of those went up any more

Wanna sell???

DrP

 
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By drilling a hole to the mudguard and running the screw through it?

Yep

 
Posted : 10/11/2016 9:08 am
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The Bike Smith is doing the V1 plus a pair of Hope wheels for 1500 allegedly in all sizes

http://thebikesmith.co/2015-kinesis-tripster-atr-bundle-offer-hope-pro2-sun-ringle-inferno-23

Still won't be getting my money thanks to reported failures and short warranty. Looking at Enigma and Mason currently.

 
Posted : 10/11/2016 9:39 am
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Another similar bike to consider is the sabbath September ar1. Had mine for a couple of years now and it's been really good. Plenty of clearance for a wider tyre too.

 
Posted : 10/11/2016 9:43 am
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Well mine came back from Bounce in Preston last night, with the BB fitted after having the threads cleaned (don't ask 🙁 ) and the brakes bled. So, new road wheels fitted Hope 20Five's with 28mm Schwalbe one pros' and bar, stem, seat and post fitted.

Day off work Tomorrow whilst the Mrs is in Hospital for a day op, so full build should be complete by tomorrow night, ready for a right soaking on Saturday 🙂

 
Posted : 10/11/2016 11:34 am
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You can still buy a Van Nicholas Amazon frame for less than £1,300.

http://www.fatbirds.co.uk/5842/products/van-nicholas-amazon-touring-frame-inc-headset-and-50-off-any-fork.aspx

The Tripster is just a johnny-come-lately upstart.....

 
Posted : 10/11/2016 11:40 am
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[i] (don't ask 🙁 ) [/i]

Oh, please can I??

 
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Which is kind of a bummer, as all the 60 and 57cm V1 frames are now out of stock...

I bought a V1 60 from Freeborn last week.

 
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Lots of choice out there granted - sites listing the V1 60cm I think have no link to what upgrade (distributor) has in stock and just assume they can order them all in.

DrP Shimano shifters/brakes not for sale, I can still send them back for the next 20 days for refund!

I have started looking at what Chinese carbon frames are available with big clearance and flout mount, you can get quiet a lot for $500, shame that $500 is a lot of £ these days!

 
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The ultegra BB cups went by hand for the first couple of threads and then when they got to that white stuff (I assume it's a Loctite) type material it started to bind. Hence the brand new cups got knackered and the Ti threads were full of ally from the cups 🙁

Not a good start to a build 🙁 🙄

all OK now though thankfully 🙂

 
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So, new road wheels fitted Hope 20Five's with 28mm Schwalbe one pros' and bar, stem, seat and post fitted.

Be interested to see what you think of the one pro's?

Anyone running G-One's on their tripster?

 
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I have used the original Ones on my Genesis for all last winter and they have been OK, I'm curious to see if the pro's are any less robust.

I suppose I will only find out on a dark, unlit road, during a winter rainstorm when I'm in a rush to get home 🙄

 
Posted : 10/11/2016 12:22 pm
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@vortex: Ugh!

@The "another similar bike to consider" crew: Looky at this beauty - http://www.whycycles.com/our-bikes/rcycle/ *swoon*
(Anyone wanna buy a year old Tripster frame? 😆 )

 
Posted : 10/11/2016 12:45 pm
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Reilly Bikes Gradient looks rather lovely:

http://grit.cx/reviews/reilly-cycleworks-gradient

@ Dez - hideously bent down tube. 😐

 
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The ultegra BB cups went by hand for the first couple of threads and then when they got to that white stuff (I assume it's a Loctite) type material it started to bind

I recall that my BB bound up after only a few rotations of insert, I then just backed and forthed until it went all the way in.

 
Posted : 10/11/2016 12:54 pm
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[i]hideously bent down tube[/i]

No. No. There is nothing hideous there. (Except the Laufs!)

 
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Just a sneaky update for you all, watch this space on the 18th Nov... the new improved v2 Tripster ATR is launched and available to order !

 
Posted : 10/11/2016 1:06 pm
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Week I've got a partially built up v2 frame hanging in my kitchen so neh neh neugh!!!

😉

DrP

 
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