Same as tlr and roughly the same distance, i am concerned about how they will survive winter but ive saved some money away in case i need to replace them.
With the alloy nipples, could you squirt drops of a dry lube such as Squirt onto them to stop them seizing through a winter of salty road rides?
Has anyone put anything other than drop bars on theirs? I know Somafunk put Jones bars on his. Interested to hear of others experiences?
Cheers
Sanny
I think the squirt would come off, but a slightly messier solution could be LPS-3
http://www.lpslabs.com/product-details/612
which is a thick and waxy spray that gets used for airframe protection.
Oh dear, I appear to have purchased a 2nd set of the excellent Kinesis wheels for mucky duties 😀
(As I shamefully couldn't get the tyres on the other (Tubeless) set I brought in the mean time..... :oops:)
They will be going on the classifieds shortly then
Would any of you tripster owners who sold a road bike as this covered all basis ever go back to a road bike? Dithering for when new batch of frames come in but use would be 80% road, 20% exploring.
Dom - what wheels are they? Could be interested.
I cant see me ever going back to a road bike no, this is all the road bike I`ll ever need and then some.
I can ride in the group I want to on club rides, ride all day 100 mile sportives etc and go exploring if the mood takes me.
I can do all of this in total comfort with rack and guards if needed.
I`ll get some wheel details later (I brought them off a mate locally, they are 700c, 6 bolt disc hubs and tubeless) I got them to run until the Kinesis ones were back in stock, couldn't get Tyres on them 😳 and have not needed to so didn't try again 🙄
Ok, ta on both counts although the kinesis wheels are mighty tempting.
(These will be half the cost if that helps 😉 )
How usable is it offroad?
I've got a Cotic x that I use for child towing duties, all terrain touring, cx sportives and making the easy woodland riding more interesting. I also had a giant defy that was used for Audax, sportives and evening blasts until it got stolen. I was hoping the tripster atr might be able to replace both but I was interested in people's thoughts on how robust it is for offroad singletrack?
Very useable off road, i've taken mine round Dalbeattie 7 stanes but avoided the slab for obvious reasons, managed all of Kirroughtree and not a problem on any part of the trail, same goes for all my local trails in Galloway, running 40mm tyres obviously.
Was up at Aviemore earlier this April (stunning weather for a week) with my Tripster and my Cove Hummer with 140mm of Fox Talas and i think i rode my Hummer for one afternoon only, but on that afternoons riding i constantly wished i was out on my Tripster instead.
The following day after i had my Hummer out i rode the same route on the Tripster, for sure it was far slower down the rooty descent and i had quite a few comedy dismounts into the heather but for the other 80% of the 30km route it made far more sense (and fun) to be riding the Tripster.
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Gotama - mine's used for 95% road duties. Admittedly bumpy, mucky, crappy road in places, but it just makes sense to be riding something that's light, fast, comfy, stops and goes, refined, versatile... I don't really miss my carbon road bike. I've kept up with the occasional group ride in about as mediocre fashion as I used to on the 16lb 'race bike' so I can't really see it. Maybe if I had endless funds I'd stick a fancy Colnago disc road bike in the garage, but it would only be for high days and dry days and the Tripster is good enough for that anyway... I'd rather not complicate things.
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Got both my new wheels on at last....
I ride mine anywhere I would ride my MTB on the South Downs and Surrey Hills. As Somafunk said above you might not get down the hill as quickly, but it's still doable. It trains you to look where you are going!
Hi Mrhoppy
I have to say I really am struggling to find fault with my long term Tripster test bike. I've already given it a shakedown on some pretty techy and rough mountain bike trails and I keep coming away impressed by how capable it is. Admittedly, I do run a 1.8 tyre on the front and a 42c on the back but I don't find that set up to be much slower than the stock WTB cross tyres. I switched to Woodchipper bars which give a bit more width and to my mind, more control off road. I may fit a shorter stem and raise the bars a little next to mimic my Fargo set up as that too is ace off road. On road, I can confidently drive into corners on steep descents on the drops, something I struggle to do on any other road or cross bike I have ridden in the past. Part of me is tempted to fit a dropper post for sh#ts and giggles. Is it robust enough? Hell yeah based on my experience so far! I regard it as a bike for the Zombie Apocalypse that seems to do everything really well. Road riding? Change the tyres. Same for cross and off road action. I reckon it's a great example of Titanium being used to best effect although even in steel, it would still to my mind be a very good design indeed. I am reserving final judgement until I put a lot more riding in but thus far, two thumbs up from me!
weird - just fitted a new ultegra chain and ultegra 12-30 cassette , and it's super tight on big to big even though i sized it big ring around big ring + 1.5 links.
running an ultegra compact chainset 50/34 - any ideas folks ?
it's still running the standard short cage 105 mech.
TLR. Mine's very similar to that set - Ultegra 12-30 with an Ultegra compact chainset and an Ultegra 6700 short cage rear mech and it's working fine. I didn't really have to fettle the B screw much either when I moved up from a 28.
Just ridden the 32mm Duranos today and am pleasantly surprised with them. They're obviously much faster rolling than the 37mm Travel Contacts but they still felt pretty comfy and supple. Let's hope they stand up to some sort of puncture resistance as they might just be what I've been looking for.
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Yep they are real bog masters, mine was going great guns through the swamp until I hit something and got thrown in a slurry, pond. And if that isn't fun enough you can then join the road and overtake a few carbon roadies. Hilarious.
@hummer, how did the grails build up? First thoughts on them? Looking at them to replace the crosslights.
They built up easy enough, though the front one went together easier than the rear, I guess to do with the offsets, though I built the front with a dynamo hub, which did have an odd offset compared to a regular one. The front one went up tubeless OK, the rear was a no go as the tyre had a hole in it!
Anyway, no complaints so far....
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Bought some Clement 35c X'Plor USH 120tpi from probikekit
http://www.probikekit.co.uk/bicycle-tyres/clement-x-plor-ush-clincher-road-tyre-120-tpi-black/10961846.html
They have had a few flash 15% off sales in the last week and have been itching to get some tubeless tyres going. How are the kinesis rims for setting up tubeless??
@hummer - What do you think of the Haven post? Does it compliment the frame?
cloudnine : You may have better luck than i did if you wrap a few lengths of tape around the kinesis rims as the clement tyres are a little baggy on the rim, i tried it with one wrap of gorilla tape and the USH tyres were impossible to set up tubeless - i could fit and remove them without a tyre lever with ease - more rim tape may have helped but i had ran out so i took the huff and fitted tubes.
cloudnine - that's the wrong pic in that link isn't it? The pic's of the mso
Well My new Conti 42mm tyres have turned up 😀 has anyone managed to get these to work tubeless on the Kinesis rims ?
Jim - if you flip your rear light over, it'll point 'up/backwards', instead of down!
DrP
Can we export this thread as a PDF or soemthing, if my frame ever turns up I'm going to need it..
Hi brassneck, fyi the next Tripster consignment/backorder is due in tomorrow according to upgrade's website (yesterday and this morning - now back to 4 weeks + again as they're all presold).
So if your retailer has had a backorder in for you it should be with you this week! 🙂 woohoo!
Nooooo! - Just ordered mine. Was hoping I might get lucky and snag one of this shipment.
Still, I have to get the wheels built, and build kit sourced.
Looks like it might be a project to keep me away from the in-laws over Christmas. 😀
mines just turned up !!!
@matts seatpost is fine, it's in there as I had it lying around and it was the right size! Ideally I'd like the Ti U.S.E. one
Lucky fella dmc, I am still being told mid December before mine arrives in UK. Anyone know where to get Shimano RS 685 pre-ordered as dont want to wait any longer than necessary for parts when the frame arrives.
@hummer - Cool. I was thinking of the latest Haven or maybe an EC70. I have an EC70 in my race bike which has been good.
@bugcab - I ordered 685s + 2 calipers from Bike24 as they have already landed in Germany. It was also less than any pre-order I could find in the UK. They still show as in stock on their site - though they have gone up a few Euros since the weekend.
@bugcab - I hadn't noticed when I posted last night, but I got a dispatch notification yesterday.
I also got a dispatch note against my frame order this morning, which got me a bit excited. 😮 Sadly it was just for the Thomson seat clamp. 🙁
Sad panda. Just been told by Winstanley's that ETA is Jan 5th.
Just an update from me using the X'Plor Clements 40c's on my CX'er.
I chose a set of these for winter whilst I steer clear of bogfest season, chose them for the good reviews on this thread and just wanted to share.
Now, I do a lot of hard CX riding, be it long or short distance and have been using Griffos for racing. I'm now hacking longer Gravel courses so these X'plors have been fitted and the first ride was today doing a section of NCN2 near me. Well they feel way different to the Griffos, way more supple and supprisingly grippy for a semi tread pattern. I'll be playing about with pressures and types of course including some favorite loops I do.
Just thought I'd pop in with a bit of "user" info as some of you have enquired about them for your Tripsters..
Cheers matt, I am on same Winstanley waiting list. Looked at bike 24 but could only se the Di2 kit (also available on bikediscount.de). Strange that the Di2 comes in at same price or less than sti version.
Yeah. They've gone from the site now - Very odd.
They must've had 'em though, as they just turned up!
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Shame I have no bike to fit 'em to...
Shame I have no bike to fit 'em to...
I'll take them off your hands for a tenner. Basically doing you a favour, as you'll be reclaiming draw space.
8)
Hi brassneck, fyi the next Tripster consignment/backorder is due in tomorrow according to upgrade's website (yesterday and this morning - now back to 4 weeks + again as they're all presold).So if your retailer has had a backorder in for you it should be with you this week! woohoo!
#isexcited
It's been on order since September and been assured mine is on this order.
ust had a great ride home on mine tonight on back "c" class roads, skimming crap tarmac, riding over road debris, dodging cars and making "progress" through the urban sprawl before hitting the country lanes....
want to make a recommendation, if you're commuting, go buy a bridgestreet.cc saddlebag - mines still going strong despite daily use for the last 6 months and some close shaves. great bit of kit that complements the adventure nature of the tripster.
Im just fitting some sks mudguards that i had in the shed and ive lost some of the bolts?? What should i use for the fork.. what bolt to use on the crown hole?? Ive got all the little bolts and some new stays but not the one for the fork..
All sks bolts are m5. Just buy the length you need. Same as bottle cage if that helps...
I've got one for the fork crown, drop me a mail and i'll pop it in the post t'morn.
Thanks somafunk.. ygm
They must've had 'em though, as they just turned up!
On a slight thread drift, Madison have confirmed that the Shimano hydros won't be be here till next year now. I knew I should have just ordered from Germany when I first thought about it.
*wanders off muttering about this is what happens when you try to buy from UK suppliers*
I got an email the other day from Shiny Bikes apologizing for the delay and that they are processing my refund - although I actually got it at the end of September soon after I cancelled and then moaned quite a bit on the phone...
I got a set of the 685s off Bike24 last week, in fact a full Ultegra build kit for my cheap chinese carbon frame which i will run until i can get a Tripster in the new year. Unless of course i love it, and big ups to the person who shipped it who put the value as $140US on the customs slip !
right folks - my textra lyra's are starting to howl like a [insert metaphor here]....
ive stripped down the caliper, cleaned and lubed piston, cleaned pads, aligned disc / rotor interface, etc.
i have new pads readied also but not fitted yet...
any thoughts ?
Dab of coppaslip on the back of the pads is worth a try, it changes the resonant frequency and damps the howl
Chamfer the leading edge of the brake pad with a bit a sandpaper
Hi brassneck 🙂
The good news over this way is mine turned up at my LBS yesterday so well chuffed and just ordered my Chorus to go with her......
Can
Not
Wait!
Looks like ours are siblings buddy! 🙂
4250km on mine after 7 months.... It's holding up well. Wheels are still true, bearings still smooth. Frame has some rubs and marks, forks scratched, smooth comfy and wondrous. Love it !!!
This is how my Tripster looks at the moment, i removed all the decals and buffed up the frame with a fine scotchbrite pad - much better looking without any decals.
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Bits n' Bobs
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Paul Component Love Levers short - Lovely indeed!
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Front Edelux light and stem cap usb plug.
Just waiting on the new Middleburn RS8 Super compact 28/38 cranks and a Middleburn BB, can't wait to get it built up - it's been 3 long months since my drivetrain exploded (page 21/22 of tis thread).
Hi Somafunk
How do like it with the Jones bars? Contemplating a similar set up for mine. Having a major clear out of my cupboard of bits and have some Paul's levers kicking about in there along with 4 finger xt 2 levers. How do the levers work with the Spyres? Hoping we get a proper winter up here so that I can fit my ice tyres which have also been uncovered. Whoop!
Cheers
Sanny
Not built up yet Sanny but I have a feeling that the jones bar and clutch mech set up will work a treat with 40mm tyres, I'll start to build it up t'morn and hopefully by next weekend I'll have the cranks, Matt said the end of the month so fingers crossed I'll get out next weekend for a shakedown fettle
Nice day today; I nipped past 5,000 miles on the Tripster. No idea if that's a lot or not, but I've had mine since page 1, post 5 of this thread - July last year, I think - and bought it as a rather early 40th present (given that my 41st is this Friday, it was about 4 months early...) but it's a decent indicator of how much I've enjoyed / am enjoying (!) it and how much use it gets.
Funnily enough I've justified mine as an early 40th birthday present too...!
Though admittedly I've just turned 37 😉 😆
Somafunk - Will you get a move on 🙂 I've been curious to see how your build turns out for ages now as I think the Jones bars could be fantastic for those of us that don't use drops.
I'm trying…..I'm trying…..I've just called matt and the cranks are being machined at the moment so hopefully by next weekend i'll have it built up.
4000km on the rear gravel king [28c] and it's given up the ghost today, looks like a shard of glass cutting the main carcass and a bit of damage to the inner belt. new one ordered.
went out for a spin on my tripster (her name is Leah) yesterday, up the forest with a buddy. I've put a 12-30 cassette on, instead of the 11-28. and I've replaced the cowbell 2's with on one midge bars. wow, I'm still giggly today. it was only about 16 miles, but relatively hilly, with a nice technical singletrack overlooking Swansea bay and the steel works. my arse would normally be making buttons on my mtb on this stretch of trail, but the stability I had using these midge bars was awesome. I managed to spin the back out on a grassy climb, but it was a flying machine. we caught a roadie up on the mile long road climb at the start, when I said we were off up the forest for an hour, he nearly broke his neck looking to see what I was on. thanks to everyone on here that has shaped my warped mind, and let me see that gravel and not road is the way forward. if any one fancies some cowbells, get in touch.
Hi ygm re cowbells . Thanks
Finished building the tripster last night quick spin last night very happy man ! Still waiting for the ultegra cranks and yet to decide on stem etc...
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9070 hydro? Sweet.
Not sure I'd want to be abusing Dura-Ace in the mud and grime on a daily basis as I'd be constantly thinking about drivetrain wear. But I must admit to some mild jealousy. 
Dmc.. Looks nice.. De sticker the Rims will give it a much clearer look
Still waiting for the ultegra chainset just put the dura ace chainset on until the end of the week.
Dc
DMC, How are the shiamno hydro all in one shifters?
I have some 11spd Hydro/Cable shifters on order (due next mth) but I am not sure I fit them as I really liking the Hope hdyo converter.
Looks like ours are siblings buddy!
Gah!! Still not here 🙁
This my first new frame in 10 years and I think it might be my last!
Mtb Rob,
only had one proper ride on them today in the pissing rain worked really well ! Made a fair bit of noise until the pads wore in a bit. Will update after a couple more rides give them time to bed in
Dc
right - problem today with the short cage 105 mech and the 12-30t cassette. the SC doesn't like the range !
so, can i use an xt shadow mexh 10speed without problemo's ? assume i can.... i have a spare in the garage if appropriate.
10 speed sti levers need a 9 speed mtb rear mech, cable pull between 10 speed raid and mtb is different. No idea about 11 speed integration - I don't go to 11 yet 😉
I ran a shortcage ultegra mech with a 11-30 cassette on a CX70 36/46 crankset without any issues? , what's the problem? - I had to adjust the B-tension screw to allow the mech to hug the cassette better but apart from that i had no issues
and where do i get a new mech hanger 🙁
soma - 50t front big onto the 30t rear buggered it..... my fault..
Ooof! - the poor mech would've been straining at the pins holding it together, Did you not have problems with a slack chain in certain gears?.
Mech Hangers from Upgrade, quick delivery.
aye it was straining at the ****n pins, i can tell thee !!! 😈
i had sized the chain correctly so it wasn't baggy anywhere, but it wasalways a bit tight on the 30T through the mech.
DMC - is tha proto frame or a mark2 tripster atr as its got DI2 internal routing!!!
Rear chain stays look a bit shorter too? But that could be my eyes
@matts
Ultegra di2 with internal conversion done by me hydro discs with ice tech rotas, hope hubs on stans grail rims revolution spokes alloy nipples, challenge strada bianca tyres (30mm) cowbell bars crank bros stem and seat post, fizik Antares seat, Thompson seat clamp. Not weighed it yet. Happy with how it's turned out one very comfy bike ! built for audax's and hopefully some adventure cross etc
Spoke with upgrade not starting work on the mk 2 frame till next year which will have di2 drillings
Dc
evilsovereign - im in Swansea, if you fancy a gravel/cx'y outing sometime give me a mail. Gower loop is great.