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I've finished the dynamo wheel for my tripster:

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Posted : 22/09/2014 8:37 pm
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ooo the grail..........
#First impressions?

 
Posted : 23/09/2014 5:41 pm
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Dr. Please funnily enough was going to bring up the issue of funny marks from velcro straps... Wasn't sure whether to try and polish them out?

 
Posted : 23/09/2014 6:31 pm
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brillo pad is good on a raw aluminum frame...

 
Posted : 23/09/2014 7:08 pm
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Stupid predictive text. Was thinking of some autoglym super resin Polish or maybe some autosol

 
Posted : 23/09/2014 7:14 pm
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@MTB Rob - I'll tell you thursday, it's built, but not on yet as I haven't got time to fiddle with the wires till then

 
Posted : 23/09/2014 7:17 pm
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Brillo pad and baby oil shines up my Ti456 nicely.

But does get some comments from Mrs B as I head out to the man cave with them :-O

 
Posted : 23/09/2014 9:17 pm
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Lemon juice and brillo work great on ti

 
Posted : 23/09/2014 9:39 pm
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hummerlicious, no worrys, how was the rim finish/feel/join area and did it build up well?

 
Posted : 23/09/2014 9:46 pm
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Looking for some grails myself, where fae and how much ?

Don't need them for a couple of weeks as were on a road camp in Majorca for 3 weeks 🙂

 
Posted : 24/09/2014 5:42 am
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Paligap, so your LBS should be able to get some, RRP £75
If you have any trouble getting them let me know & I see what I can do.

 
Posted : 24/09/2014 12:31 pm
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Slight thread hijack...... anyone fancy a slightly more road oriented version to compliment their tripster? I ordered a 60cm Kinesis Grand Fondo Ti a month or so ago and a change in circumstances means it hasn't even been taken out of its packaging and now needs to go. 😥

Freeborn are doing these for £1593, you could have this one for £1493 and save yourself £100.....

Email in profile.

 
Posted : 24/09/2014 1:31 pm
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I'm in the trade, so I got them from Paligap.

They've built up nicely, difficult to get totally true, it took a bit of patience, but I'm happy with the results now.

 
Posted : 24/09/2014 8:55 pm
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Where can you buy small quantities of spokes to build wheels at reasonable cost?
I've always fancied lacing my own, but never really found the time.

 
Posted : 25/09/2014 6:42 am
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easyrider - i generally use Rose bikes for spokes, DT Swiss Comps are at a pretty good price, just remember to add £5 ish for shipping. Because of the postage costs i try and buly out my order with other bits and bobs i need.

 
Posted : 25/09/2014 6:51 am
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I've got my frame, yay.
it turned up today whilst I was in work, along with my spyres. I would like to say that I'm waiting until my wheels arrive on Tuesday, before I build it. but that would be a lie. I'm taking pics of the progress, and once it's all together i'll put some up here. first impressions, are that she is beautiful, and we will have a long and happy relationship.

 
Posted : 25/09/2014 8:27 pm
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A frame from ShinyBikes !

Maybe I shouldn't have cancelled - but I admit I had lost faith in them in case I needed warranty assistance.

For instance I cancelled my order last week but haven't had a refund yet - fast enough to charge but not to refund.

I phoned to check it and have also emailed their support as well some days ago.

One more call tomorrow and then chargeback time...

 
Posted : 25/09/2014 8:51 pm
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I also cancelled with SB earlier today, having ordered from WS instead 🙂 Cheaper than SB too...

 
Posted : 26/09/2014 10:52 am
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Where can you buy small quantities of spokes to build wheels at reasonable cost?
I've always fancied lacing my own, but never really found the time.

I've picked them up off eBay...

DrP

 
Posted : 26/09/2014 10:54 am
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I've got my frame, yay.

From ShinyBikes?!

<is suddenly pant wettingly excited>
<checks Merlin shopping basket that has been in an open browser window for a month>

For instance I cancelled my order last week but haven't had a refund yet - fast enough to charge but not to refund.

I phoned to check it and have also emailed their support as well some days ago.

One more call tomorrow and then chargeback time...

Now thats a worry. I haven't and wasn't planning to cancel just yet, but they really don't like answering emails, and phonecalls seem like you're imposing somehow. Some positive news would be a bonus.

I also cancelled with SB earlier today, having ordered from WS instead Cheaper than SB too...

WS? Cheaper than 1090?

 
Posted : 26/09/2014 10:58 am
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My SB tripster was £1155, the WS somewhat cheaper. Just had email to say it's being shipped! Next I have to wait for RS685 to hit the shops

 
Posted : 26/09/2014 11:27 am
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Sorry but who are WS? I must have missed that bit.

 
Posted : 26/09/2014 12:29 pm
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I'm guessing WS may be Winstanleys? Their site shows 51 and 54cm frames in stock at £1124

I keep reading this thread despite the fact there is no way I can justify a new bike, but god I wish I had one - it looks like my perfect bike...

 
Posted : 26/09/2014 1:14 pm
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doh, forgot to check Winstanleys - and they were cheaper than fatbirds!

I think that must be a recent price drop, surely.

never mind, it's only money...

 
Posted : 26/09/2014 2:53 pm
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yup WS == Winstanleys. Royal Mail have txtd me with a tracking number! Yee Gods.

 
Posted : 27/09/2014 6:54 pm
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Went the cycles show yesterday and had a great chat with Rory from upgrade bikes/kinesis, who gave me some great ideas for my build but also gave me more to thing about!!!

 
Posted : 28/09/2014 9:32 am
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sorry folks forgot to state.... cancelled it with SB, and went with winstanleys. it's built, just waiting for my wheels to arrive tomorrow. it sure looks pretty.

 
Posted : 29/09/2014 6:50 am
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Just got cables to connect up and steerer to cut on mine, after swapping bits from my Croix de fer and also taking the 32 cassette and medium cage rd from my equilibrium.

 
Posted : 29/09/2014 8:14 am
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Just spoke to ShinyBikes, they are estimating end of next week/beginning week after - waiting on forks at present.

I'm happy to wait as it'll only distract me from the painting I should be doing 😉

Back to wheel planning and groupset... Has anyone built with SRAM? The Apex with a 30 cassette looks quite tempting for a change from the 105 standard.

 
Posted : 29/09/2014 9:39 am
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Apex has a 32 cassette, which is what I have just put on.

Ultegra do a 30 cassette, which is what I had before, and which works with the short cage mech, the 32 requires a medium cage mech.

 
Posted : 29/09/2014 9:54 am
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long shot but does anybody want to swap their 51cm for a 54cm? or buy my 100 mile old frame/forks so I can buy a 51cm?

 
Posted : 29/09/2014 10:31 am
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My Mrs has just taken delivery of my 51'' frame, thanks Winstanleys. I've got some Crest/Novatek on the way. But debating what todo with the rest of the components; it depends on whether it'll take big tyres like 2'' IKONS : if so then it'll replace my Scandal Mtb and maybe my road bike as well. But what'll probably happen is it'll add to the bike count 🙂

 
Posted : 29/09/2014 1:57 pm
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Still no word of a refund from ShinyBikes and no communication either.
I've opened a dispute with Mastercard.
Shocking!!!!! & never again. Rip off merchants!

 
Posted : 29/09/2014 6:55 pm
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Easyrider - gutting about the refund... The Ikons could be a squeeze at the rear - but if you run without guards they might just fit on the front. I had some 42mm Contis on with loads of room at the front and more than enough out back...

I'm about to renew the somewhat aged drivetrain on mine - I've got a new 6700 cassette with the 30T at the top and matching chain. Not sure if the mech needs a refresh too, but it's good to read that people are using the short cage Ultegra mech with the bigger sprocket.

 
Posted : 29/09/2014 7:42 pm
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Easy rider - try phoning them again. I got someone way more communicative this time. Worth another try at least (I have no connection with them beyond also being owed a frame)

Edit: not had replies to emails. Not defending them but I think a call is your best bet.

 
Posted : 29/09/2014 9:19 pm
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Yes, I would give them a call. My e-mails went unanswered.

 
Posted : 29/09/2014 9:28 pm
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Will a short cage ultegra mech work with 30t cassette ? I've heard it will.."..

 
Posted : 29/09/2014 9:50 pm
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@brassneck I've seriously called them many times, and been given false promises of either a frame or refund, but that's the limit of their customer service (ie : answering the phone or taking money) as far as i goes. Not even a single email in reply. Anyhow masterCard are on the case now. PS : this thread is linked from the landing page on upgrade Bikes lol.

 
Posted : 30/09/2014 6:55 am
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Easyrider.. Id be all over their FB and twitter feeds with the shit they are pulling. Its amazing how quick businesses can pull their finger out when stuff goes public

 
Posted : 30/09/2014 7:00 am
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1000

 
Posted : 30/09/2014 7:08 am
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Oh yeah : the frame. The 2'' IKONS wouldn't fit at the back (did not think they would), so the mtb lives on! Now maybe the road bike will be getting sacked for parts. By putting double ended ferrules on the cable outers drops bars can be put on different around without unwrapping the bar tape.

 
Posted : 30/09/2014 7:13 am
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Same here with the refund situation - I phoned them last week so I think I will phone the credit card today.

 
Posted : 30/09/2014 7:34 am
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https://twitter.com/shinybikes

Id also contact upgrade bikes and tell them about the shit you are having

 
Posted : 30/09/2014 7:47 am
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..my previous post should have read

"By putting double ended ferrules on the cable outers drops bars can be put on different bikes without unwrapping the bar tape."

I've messaged ShinyBikes on FB anyhow cheers.

 
Posted : 30/09/2014 9:02 am
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How many people are owed refunds from Shiny - perhaps we can start a "Cheated by ShinyBikes" facebook page ?

 
Posted : 30/09/2014 9:14 am
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I'm owed a frame, haven't cancelled yet. If it doesn't show by 17/10 I'll probably be in the queue. But that will also depend on some proactive communication from them, a phone call or a mail or txt TO me would go along way..

Can fully understand why you guys are pissed though, refunds should be instant - quick enough to take the money... and I am now more than a bit nervous - never had to resort to charge back before.

 
Posted : 30/09/2014 9:22 am
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brassneck - have WS got your frame size in stock?

 
Posted : 30/09/2014 9:23 am
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Here she is:

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Some parts taken from my carbon roadie but this will be a work in progress as I definitely want to change the bars.

 
Posted : 30/09/2014 1:43 pm
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That looks really nice CG, can I ask what size it is?
And as this bloody thread 🙂 has got me thinking, is there any chance of having a closer look sometime?

 
Posted : 30/09/2014 3:07 pm
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Just got an email notification of a refund from ShinyBikes.

I phoned them this morning to ask why I hadn't been refunded so far - he said their manager was in today (Fraser) so would take care of it, but I mentioned that this was the response on Friday, to which he said Fraser didn't arrive, and that he had been away recently.

So either they decided that they couldn't play me along anymore, or 'Fraser' had been away and/or they are just a bit chaotic - which I sort of think might be the case.

 
Posted : 30/09/2014 4:35 pm
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I feel out of date now with my Stans Iron Crosses 🙁

 
Posted : 30/09/2014 4:36 pm
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CG.. looks good 8)

I started with my stem up there somewhere up where yours is and has slowly dropped and now a 0deg rise 90mm thomson stem

 
Posted : 30/09/2014 4:50 pm
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Very nice CG. Are the hoods really level with the saddle? I'm quite tempted by an ATR but my last drop bar bike was before 1980...

 
Posted : 30/09/2014 5:30 pm
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Thanks chaps. 😀

@ UnderTheWood- it's a 51 but weirdly the frame looks smaller than my 52 CdF. You're welcome to take a look, am in Chandlers and e-mail in profile.

@ cloudnine - did you find that it took a while to get it set up? Have you changed your bars?

@ Murray - don't panic, I haven't even adjusted the seat post yet! I've heard of a flat bar being fitted to a Tripster so an option if drops don't appeal.

Edit: just to add that I haven't gone tubeless with this although an essential requirement was for a Hope hub.

 
Posted : 30/09/2014 6:38 pm
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seems crazy to not go tubeless when you have stans rims! Or perhaps you like fixing punctures ?!?!

 
Posted : 30/09/2014 7:48 pm
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CG.. I just slowly dropped the bars (salsa cowbells) down and then still felt a bit too upright so put a 0deg rise stem on.
Interesting to see a triple up front.. Let us know how you get on.
Looks like a big loop of cable off the rear mech?

 
Posted : 30/09/2014 7:51 pm
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Mrs tlr is now wanting a tripster. Are there any 48's in stock anywhere folks ?

 
Posted : 01/10/2014 6:04 am
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try shinyBikes Lol

 
Posted : 01/10/2014 7:09 am
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cloudnine - thanks, definitely interested in other bars. As regards a triple, well I have them on all my bikes anyway and that chainset has come from the roadie. Not sure about that cable, been too busy but will take a look.

 
Posted : 01/10/2014 7:15 am
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try shinyBikes Lol

they should be getting them in soon, in a few weeks - flying them in apparently 🙂

 
Posted : 01/10/2014 8:07 am
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only 51s and 54s at Winstanleys, at their discounted price

 
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Has your refund materialised TG? I'm inclined to think you're right on the disorganised point.

Probably should bail now and get the refund cogs whirring :-/

EIDT: Forgot to add:

<Rubs thighs lasciviously at CG's build>

Thing of beauty that. I reckon a triple is a good call.

 
Posted : 01/10/2014 3:17 pm
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Hey C_G! Congrats at last 🙂 You must be dead chuffed. Have you ridden it yet? Looking mighty fine.

 
Posted : 01/10/2014 7:44 pm
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Has your refund materialised TG?

It seems so - I had a Worldpay refund notification but my online barclaycard page now confusingly shows my 18th August Shiny Bikes transaction as a credit, rather than a debit that was on there previously.

The account balance looks like the refund has been received as well.

 
Posted : 02/10/2014 2:01 am
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Thanks brassneck and gonetothehills. 😀 Not ridden it yet but hope to over the weekend.

Now need to go back over this thread for recommendations on off road tyres, mudguards and racks. 🙂

seems crazy to not go tubeless when you have stans rims! Or perhaps you like fixing punctures ?!?!

Ha! In the last couple of weeks I've had one tubeless tyre explode off the rim and the other totally flatted although fortunately near the end of the ride. This was on my ht.

In an ideal world I'd follow Somafunk's example and have two sets of wheels but mine were bloomin' expensive so no chance!

 
Posted : 02/10/2014 10:42 am
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How much for the wheels - mine where 432 or something from JRA, with supercomp spokes and hope hubs.

 
Posted : 02/10/2014 11:31 am
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Think they were a bit more than that TurnerGuy.

 
Posted : 02/10/2014 11:49 am
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cg - what's special about them ? Maybe the grail rims are more expensive?

 
Posted : 02/10/2014 12:05 pm
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Nothing special, rims were iirc £150.

 
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your rims would be 30 or 40 more, so there's some difference. Your grails look a bit more versatile, the iron cross don't do road tubeless, whereas your grails do.

 
Posted : 02/10/2014 2:37 pm
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[b]bottle bosses[/b] - why am I struggling to affix bottle cages? Bosses appear very shallow - anyone else noticed this?

 
Posted : 02/10/2014 3:09 pm
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Just had a mega blowout on the road here in Majorca. Was using schwalbe ultremo zx . Wonder if my faithful gravel kings in 23c would be a good choice for road rides 😈

So cinnamon, I'm recommending gravel kings. I use 28c on my tripster and they are sublime tyres.

 
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[b]Grail rims[/b] - just a heads-up to say that if anyone is thinking of using these without tubeless tyres then it's best to get a tube with a long valve. Standard ones mean that it's not exactly easy to inflate and could be interesting on the roads and trails. Rims are very deep!

Or use a valve extender.

 
Posted : 03/10/2014 4:18 pm
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Anyone had any issues with the FSA headset.. mine seemed to be making a bit of a creaky clicky noise over bumpy ground so stripped it down today. Seems water has got in it a little and parts of it were just starting to rust. Dunno whether it just wasnt tight enough, greased enough etc or whether its likely to be a future issue?

 
Posted : 05/10/2014 4:17 pm
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Bugger - need to order some metal drill bits and a new seat collar...

 
Posted : 05/10/2014 5:15 pm
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Bugger - need to order some metal drill bits and a new seat collar..

You may have noticed the blue Hope seat collar on mine that appeared fairly early into the frame's life. 😕 The standard one is a lovely thing, but by 'eck that bolt's made of cheese.

 
Posted : 05/10/2014 5:25 pm
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but by 'eck that bolt's made of cheese.

yes it turned on me and I couldn't get it out - tried all sorts of stuff and even dremeled the edges so I could a large screwdriver in but I only managed to get some slight movement before trashing the outside as well, so no option now but to drill through it 🙁

 
Posted : 05/10/2014 6:12 pm
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The seat collar on my pro6 did exactly the same thing.
The seat collar that came with my tripster.. The thread stripped on it with very minimal torque.

 
Posted : 05/10/2014 6:40 pm
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After 2 punctures yesterday I'm thinking of going tubeless.. Anyone tried the Hutchinson sector 28 on the kinesis wheels?

 
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What have people done about the seat post slipping? Is there any way of keeping the original collar as I really like it but it's a pain having to adjust the post every ride.

 
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