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Tripster ATR finally built up - lush!

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Please I have just got some Spyre SLC and I thought my mind was made up 🙂 Not fitted them yet though....


 
Posted : 15/09/2014 9:14 am
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Whilst on the subject of brakes I need some new pads in a few weeks for my spyres.. Any recommendations? I've replaced both trp discs a with shimano as I managed to warp them both... Not sure whether that's braking style or shit discs?


 
Posted : 15/09/2014 9:40 am
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And another question 🙂

Anyone running anything other than Shimano gearing? Wondering if SRAM WiFLi might be a good all rounder on the basis I'll need the lower range more than the upper.. or maybe Campag, think they go won to a 30 cassette.. and I think the Kinesis wheelset is still available from Fat Birds in Campag flavour.


 
Posted : 15/09/2014 11:22 am
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bluesmartie, I have a set of R685s on order for my ATR frame set build. I was tempted to get the TRP RD/HD but wasn't convinced given some so-so reviews. Apparently the R685s won't arrive in the UK until 22nd October so I'll have to wait a little while yet. I've gone for the 6800 Ultegra group set for everything else.

I'm looking at getting some avid 40 cm discs for front and rear to fit on to my Hope 2 hubs.


 
Posted : 15/09/2014 8:43 pm
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Jo4js - let me know what you think of the R685's when you get them. I think I'm now going to opt for ultegra 6800 shifters and dura ace mechs,


 
Posted : 15/09/2014 9:02 pm
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Used these for the Spyres, tried a couple of the other types but not sure what the difference is though, too many other variables affecting performance. They don't squeal in the rain though!

http://www.discobrakes.com/?s=0&t=0&c=14&p=100&tb=001


 
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Still can't get over how much I love this bike

Did a 138m round trip on it on Saturday on the road, flipped the tyres to cx and went for a quick cx spin the next day and it felt even better !

Faultless


 
Posted : 15/09/2014 9:40 pm
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Spyres rule btw!


 
Posted : 15/09/2014 9:41 pm
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Scandalous - What tyres are you using for road & what for cx?


 
Posted : 16/09/2014 5:54 am
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Continental 4 seasons 28c for road

Kendra small block 8 32c for xc

Both are superb


 
Posted : 16/09/2014 6:08 am
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Rogerover- reconsider under 🙂
it'd be doable but you'll get really beat up. 40cs would help but the general ride position and low vol tyres will make it really tough especially when loaded up. For some sections and shorter days it could be ok though. Gotama, i was almost 3 days off the winning pace that yr but nice that people remember it as a better ride than it was haha

Been popping onto this thread here and there. Great that a bike like this is so well appreciated. High chance my significant bd bike will be a steel 40c drop bar. Tip of the day- 40c WTB Nanos 🙂


 
Posted : 16/09/2014 6:39 am
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I'm looking at getting some avid 40 cm discs for front and rear

I am not sure you need them that big...


 
Posted : 16/09/2014 10:15 am
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I'm looking at getting some avid 40 cm discs for front and rear

I am not sure you need them that big...

But imagine the stopping power 🙂


 
Posted : 16/09/2014 10:32 am
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Ok, Ok, my mistake. In all seriousness though will the ATR take 140mm rotors? I think I read somewhere that the skeleton mount will only take 160mm rotors.


 
Posted : 16/09/2014 11:29 am
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Ok, Ok, my mistake. In all seriousness though will the ATR take 140mm rotors? I think I read somewhere that the skeleton mount will only take 160mm rotors

My understanding as well


 
Posted : 16/09/2014 11:44 am
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Please I have just got some Spyre SLC and I thought my mind was made up Not fitted them yet though....

I'll take em off your hands if you like 🙂

Ok, Ok, my mistake. In all seriousness though will the ATR take 140mm rotors? I think I read somewhere that the skeleton mount will only take 160mm rotors.

Yup, it's in this epic thread somewhere as I asked the same question.


 
Posted : 16/09/2014 12:15 pm
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400mm rotors ... ye gods that'll stop 🙂
Better than my ZX10r 😉


 
Posted : 16/09/2014 12:37 pm
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What size for a 6ft 3incher ?

Lovely bike


 
Posted : 16/09/2014 1:33 pm
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What size for a 6ft 3incher ?

I would recommend 500mm rotors for that height...


 
Posted : 16/09/2014 1:38 pm
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it'd be doable but you'll get really beat up

Jameso - thanks for the advice, that's not what I really wanted to hear but I'm so glad I heard it before going down the wrong road. Very much appreciated.


 
Posted : 16/09/2014 3:28 pm
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I ment what size frame for a 6ft 3incher ?


 
Posted : 16/09/2014 4:01 pm
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Out of curiosity, can I use a shim and a 27.2 seat post as I need the setback?


 
Posted : 16/09/2014 4:51 pm
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Bit of a PSA here. Just had my regular email from planet x, and these vittoria voyager tyres are much cheapness.

http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/TYVIVOHY/vittoria-voyager-hyper-folding-tyre

at £10 an end, I thought they'd be useful. Seeing as I'm still waiting for my frame to arrive, why not buy stuff I can't use.


 
Posted : 16/09/2014 7:27 pm
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They are supposed to be great, unfortunately too big for my kaffenback


 
Posted : 17/09/2014 4:14 pm
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Quick pic update....
I've done a bit of the [b]'A'[/b], planning the [b]'T'[/b] at the end of the month (hence the luggage trial below!), and hopefully some [b]'R'[/b]ing early November!
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Posted : 17/09/2014 4:44 pm
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Not impressed with shinybikes when I phoned to see when they were expecting the frame they said they had stock of when I bought it on the 18th of last month, so I think I might cancel my order tomorrow.


 
Posted : 17/09/2014 6:05 pm
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Not impressed with Shiny Bikes either..still waiting....


 
Posted : 17/09/2014 8:01 pm
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Likewise. they have debited my cc too :-\


 
Posted : 17/09/2014 8:06 pm
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Phone or email upgrade bikes and find out when stock will actually be available to the retailers. Good price on the frameset though.
Edit.. just been on the upgrade bikes website and it say 4+ weeks on frames. So either cancel your orders and buy elsewhere (for more money), try and haggle some free stuff from shinybikes for waiting, or just wait.


 
Posted : 17/09/2014 8:20 pm
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The guy at shiny said that he would check with upgrade and get back yesterday, but the same guy said that again today. Not sure I would feel confident about warranty issues with them.

Fatbirds say that they have a 54 on their website, but I might put it down to fate telling me not to get one.


 
Posted : 17/09/2014 8:47 pm
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I might put it down to fate telling me not to get one.

If you believe fate crap. Its just proved to be more popular than they expected (probably due to this thread). Demand has outstripped supply. Its worth the wait unless you have absolutely no other bike to ride


 
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I ordered a full bike from Freeborn about a month ago online, they got back to me next day to explain they were out of stock until later in the year & refunded me straight away, so hats off to them for being on the ball. Next day ordered from Shinybikes - heard nothing so after a week I rang them & they said no frames till end of year - I'd have still been waiting if I hadn't rang them but they did refund me straight away, so it seems check on stock before pressing the order button is the best policy.I did strike lucky & found a frame which I'm collecting as a built up bike tomorrow - Christmas has come early 🙂


 
Posted : 17/09/2014 10:32 pm
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ok, so I cancelled my ShinyBikes order - the guy didn't seem surprised and was as downbeat as for all my other recent calls.

I then bought a 54cm frameset from fatbirds as they had stock - so ordered for before 12 delivery tomorrow.

However Kaspersky tried it's utmost to stop me buying it - for each barclaycard attempt through firefox and also chrome.

And then it was shown as out of stock, so not available for next day delivery.

And then when I did get past Kaspersky Barclaycard fraud prevention then declined the purchase! Not quite sure why as I am always buying bike stuff so it is not unusual.

Then Kaspersky tried to get in the way of a Paypal purchase, so I uninstalled it.

So it really feels like Fate was trying to stop me buying this frameset - a bit like this bit in "The Man With two Brains" when he asks for a 'Sign' but then ignores it :


 
Posted : 18/09/2014 10:46 am
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Dang I had ordered mine before reading this thread ShinyBikes said 2 weeks, and after that next year. Looks like next year then. 🙁 Or a Gran Fondo but I don't want one of those.


 
Posted : 18/09/2014 12:22 pm
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easyrider - what size are you after ?


 
Posted : 18/09/2014 2:30 pm
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54cm for me if you're offering 🙂


 
Posted : 18/09/2014 2:33 pm
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Turnerguy.. so did you actually manage to order one?


 
Posted : 18/09/2014 2:35 pm
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Turnerguy.. so did you actually manage to order one?

yes 🙂

should be with me before 12 tomorrow. If not it is really is fate and I shall give up on it and put the spyre slcs on my croix de fer...


 
Posted : 18/09/2014 3:03 pm
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54cm for me if you're offering

there is always the chance that I prefer the croix de fer for my short, hour long dashes round horsell common and I end up putting the 54cm tripster atr in the classifieds...


 
Posted : 18/09/2014 3:05 pm
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I'll keep them peeled then Though there is a Croix de Fer on offer in one of my LBS.. a grand, seemed a good deal. But I was hoping to roll road bike and child towing bike into one with a dash of added offroad fun, and thought I'd want something a little posher on road. Maybe I should buy the Croix and something carboney for road use only :-/
Or maybe I should just grow a bit of patience 🙂


 
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Maybe I should buy the Croix and something carboney for road use only :-/

the stock Croix de fer is a bit on the heavy side, although the newer ones have been getting better.

Mine with ultegra chainset/ultegra fd/105 rd/stans iron cross on hope/BB7s/light pedals is 22.5lbs, and that is fine I think, only 2lbs more than my 725 genesis equilibrium.

It is a fun bike and nice and springy, and perfect for my common blasts and some rides of a little further.

Next years has a slight geometry change I think, maybe higher in the HT.

The Tripster ATR does look a different kettle of fish though.


 
Posted : 18/09/2014 3:27 pm
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Hi guys

Noticing you're after a 54 -

If you don't mind one with a slight mark on the seat tube by the front mech mount, there's one at Fred Williams cycles in wolverhampton for sale?

Have posted this before but it was at the bottom of a page so not many may have noticed, as I couldn't complete the build during my holidays I don't mind waiting for another (and the mark is the slightest mm of a nick to be fair - so if you want one right now I'd go for it).


 
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If you think the Croix is perfect for your common blasts you are going to be blown away by the ATR!


 
Posted : 18/09/2014 6:22 pm
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I've managed 2000km in 9weeks on my tripster and to be honest, it's an absolute joy to ride, seriously. I've never ridden a better all rounder.
Yes there are better mountain and road bikes but nothing that does everything so bloody well. Wondrous machine. New chain on its way....!


 
Posted : 18/09/2014 7:50 pm
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mistergrizzly - I have today picked up said frame from Fred's built up with 5800 105 groupset. Just taken it out for a spin, bit of road,bit of old railway line, it is just great, flys along the tracks & very smooth. Anyone waiting for a frame - it is worth the wait!! 🙂


 
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.. and its comments like the above that just keep me hanging on. Was all set to get a croix on c2w, but just wanted a little bit more pizazz if it was going to replace 2 bikes properly.

Will probably be going to give Apex a go, cheap enough as an experiment and should have the gear spread for anything.

22.5 is a bit better than I expected TG. That would in all honesty be good enough for me I expect.


 
Posted : 18/09/2014 8:55 pm
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Overthehill.....

Cool! Glad you're pleased with it! Are you local or did you have to travel a bit (I'll have to keep my eye open for it!)? Can't wait to get one... If they're back in stock by the time I get my next break from work!

Chuffed for you though mate, out of interest what parts other than the groupset did you go for? 🙂


 
Posted : 18/09/2014 9:10 pm
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mistergrizzly - I'm in Northants so not local. Build was 5800 105 with 32 cassette,Shimano discs, deda alu bars stem seatpost, Kinesis crosslight wheels (vittoria randonneur tyres atm),Kinesis Volt saddle.
I'll try to post a photo on here if anyone can tell me how to do it!


 
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22.5 is a bit better than I expected TG

My wheels are 1610g and I think the Kinesis crosslight V3 wheels are more like 1500, so that's a useful weight saving there.

My seatpost is titanium and light, but my saddle is an old gel flow flite so that could also be a little lighter.

Obviously I will be saving 20 or 30g when I go from BB7s to the Spyre SLCs 🙂

My Brifters and rear mech are 105 so they could be ultegra.

And I have the steel fork, so more potential weight saving there...

But my peddles are the 4ti eggbeaters, so pretty light.


 
Posted : 19/09/2014 7:01 am
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[b]pannier rack[/b] - apologies for dimness but is there only one type that fits? I have one in my dungeon that was used on a disk-braked hardtail so any reason why it wouldn't fit?


 
Posted : 19/09/2014 9:57 am
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My first post on this forum so please be gentle with me!!

I have been keeping a close eye on Tripster ATR and this thread in particular. I had managed to scrape together the funds to buy just recently, only to find that I couldn't find the frame size I needed (54). Consequently, I managed to track down and plumped for a 57, but in reality it is a tiny bit too big for me, I can ride it comfortably but a 54 would definately be better suited for me.

Therefore, if anyone on here is in the opposite situation...ie has a 54 but would prefer a 57 I would be pretty keen to talk 8)

Loving all the info and apolgies for not posting a picture...i'll get that sorted over the weekend 8)


 
Posted : 19/09/2014 10:19 am
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dpd delivers (1/2 hour within their window as well) :

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Posted : 19/09/2014 10:34 am
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Kaspersky

@TurnerGuy, that's your problem, right there - I know that finding an anti-virus solution is tricky, but Kaspersky isn't it.

Glad you got the frame in the end - a friend of mine turned up on his Tripster for our yearly [url= http://www.strava.com/activities/194766135 ]epic trek to the coast[/url] and, despite being the only rigid forked bike, kept up over the rougher sections and looked just as fresh as the rest of us, at the end.


 
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@TurnerGuy, that's your problem, right there - I know that finding an anti-virus solution is tricky, but Kaspersky isn't it.

It was the one Barclays were pushing to customers free, so I thought that I would try it rather than renew what I had before. Th 2013 version seemed to cope with the redirections OK, but I have just 'upgraded' to the 2014 version.

Maybe I will try McaFee ? 🙂


 
Posted : 19/09/2014 1:22 pm
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Thanks for the box piccies, going to cut out and keep that to remind myself to be patient.


 
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finally built mine up, ultegra 6800, cowbells, one tubeless tyres,TRP hy/rd brakes...
taking some getting used to the tall front end!

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[url= https://www.flickr.com/photos/94699500@N08/15264567836/ ]IMG_2130[/url] by [url= https://www.flickr.com/people/94699500@N08/ ]Pryally[/url], on Flickr


 
Posted : 19/09/2014 2:06 pm
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My Cowbells have arrived, thanks Jack(?) from Charlie's!

So I get to play ghost bike around the office at least.


 
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Thanks for the box piccies, going to cut out and keep that to remind myself to be patient.

I could do an "Unboxing" video and put it on youtube like the other geeks do ?


 
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pryally - rims ?????????

i'm thinking about some reynolds carbo's .............. 😈


 
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@TurnerGuy : I'm actually after a 51 having had a recent bikefit (all my bikes are usually 54 buty I am long legged apparently). Shiny Bikes say that they are flying some in by plane, should be here soon 🙂 Of course it will heh heh.


 
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I'm now hoping for October. 🙂 The frame does exist cos I've cuddled it. 😉


 
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Overthehill... Sounds like a nice build and yes a photo would be good! Click on IMG in post editor? Haven't done it myself though so may well be wrong!

Out of interest, how did you find out about the frame at Fred's? Did you see my post or get a tip-off elsewhere? Great guys aren't they 🙂


 
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Lightbicycle 23mm wide 45mm deep U rims from china built onto novatec rims - just wanted some carbon rims, not sure if they are any better than my archetypes


 
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mistergrizzly, yes I saw your first post on here so got over to Fred's asap as I couldn't get a frame anywhere else. They've been great to deal with - just good normal guys ! hopefully this image will work if not there's one on Fred's facebook page.[img]


 
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Overthehill.....

She's a beauty...!

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cat is helping me, just making sure I have got everything out of the fork box :

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with 11spd 105
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the Mudguards are M part (from Maddison) 45mm, and fitted well, I have also fitted 35mm to my ATR with 28cc road and again fitted well, Just had to put a small bend in the stay on the front left to fit better around the brake calliper, also just had to drill a hole to to fit to the seatstay bridge.

On a side note, I had to get some SKS mudguards to fit to the Kinesis 4s with 28mm as the M part "bridge support" (fitted to the seatstay bridge, where brake fits) was to thick it rubbed, so SKS bridge support uses thin metal and works well.


 
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So, for anyone who has a frame on pre-order like me, and is waiting for it to arrive.
I rang upgrade on Friday for a chat, and they confirmed that the frames are coming into upgrade towards the end of November. cx disc wheelsets are not in that shipment, and are around Christmas. they've got 100 sets being built.
Fatbirds seemed to be the only place left with a single 54 on the shelf.
I was slightly alarmed to read folks on here who have cancelled orders with shinybikes. I've got mine on order with them, sitting on a £500 deposit, and was a bit nervous about waiting another couple of months. but stocks seemed to have dried up everywhere. Shiny bikes are under the impression that they are getting them sooner, but if the importer aren't getting them til late November, it's going to be a long wait.
just thought I'd share this update with everyone.


 
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Not sure if this picture will spur on those of you in the midst of epic cat-assisted builds, or wind up those of you waiting on frames to arrive (it'll be worth it, I promise) but today's early doors ride took in a chunk of climbing, mainly on quiet lanes and one section of gravel that I've climbed previously on the mountain bike but wanted to try on the Tripster. Not quite sure how (other than having the right tool for the job) but that turned out to be a surprise top 10 Strava segment when I uploaded the ride...

So saying, I came undone slightly yesterday. An impromptu hard and fast flat 40 miles with three others on their carbon Sunday (Saturday) best bikes. I'm sure my legs and lungs had more to do with it, but it's hard work running 37mm tyres trying too keep up with someone on Zipp 303s... My excuse anyway. Still - it was good fun, but I was sorely tempted to jump down a couple of the cobbled lanes and loose climbs to mix it up a bit. I do feel it alters the way you look at routes now. Happy days.

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Following on from gonetothehills post. Took my newly acquired Tripster on a club road run of 50miles yesterday. Tyres are Vittoria 32mm randoneurs.I kept up with everyone's carbon bikes & averaged 17mph. The only thing I noticed speedwise is it's not quite as quick to respond to an out of the saddle acceleration as my carbon synapse, BUT , the further I rode the better the ride got, just so smooth, & it just makes you smile - can't explain it better than that! Also, jumped straight back on my carbon synapse(which is renowned for it's comfy ride qualities) for a 10 mile spin to compare & it felt like I was being shook to pieces. It's looking like the Synapse is going to be surplus to requirements, I just can't see myself climbing over the Tripster to get to the Synapse anytime soon! 🙂


 
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Overthehill - yep, similar average speed for me, but whilst me legs knew about it today, like you're suggesting, the comfort with which you make rapid progress is a real bonus. My 16lb carbon bike went within a few months of the Tripster arriving... 🙂 Really glad you're enjoying your Tripster so much.


 
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Gonetothehills
Is that the Cloud in the background ? If so, where was the picture taken from, Gun Hill area ? Nice Tripster:)


 
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It is! Good spot. I did a loop from Macc up above Sutton, then down into Wincle and at Swythamley Hall, took the left hand turn up past the farm, rather than staying on the road heading towards the back of Gun Hill. The road becomes a bit of a track then at the gate by the houses at Clough Head, it's stone, grass and gravel - perfectly rideable - up to Roach End, where the pic was taken. Went round the back of the Roaches, up to Flash, over Axe Edge and down the Cat. I could have come up with quieter roads for the return, but the views were great this morning. We're spoilt round here...


 
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I've been in the same area this afternoon but stayed on the road. Lots of quiet lanes and stunning scenery. We are lucky to have the Staffordshire Moorlands/Peak District on our doorstep.


 
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Anyone else had issues with weird tide marks appearing on frame after being cleaned??

Tried everything to make them go away (including degreasing with white spirit) but to no avail.

Anyway, after this mornings prep for next weeks hard training plan I tried using windowleen on the frame and now shiny and gorgeous with no streaky tide marks!!! Yey!!


 
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I swapped the stock tyres for some 28mm gator skins as soon as I got mine but felt a bit meh!
Fitted some 37mm slicks on this morn and went for a 30 mile mix of bridleways/road/singletrack and apart from falling off and gashing my finger on a thorny bush it was like a different bike. It felt like I was riding a nice comfy armchair and could have rode all day!


 
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Shiny bikes are under the impression that they are getting them sooner, but if the importer aren't getting them til late November, it's going to be a long wait.

Let's hope they come up with the goods. Don't mind sticking it out a few weeks more, but end of November might send me in the direction of the LBS with the cheap Croix in the window. But I really want the Tripster now, so I guess I'll just have to hold off.


 
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I noticed at lunchtime that Maplin sell silver/grey cable ties...


 
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Scandalous..
My frame's covered in odd 'buffs' and marks from frame bags rubbing... All adds to the character!

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