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Both of them going @ a fairly decent speed,I,m probably in the camp of the first guy in front the other chap could have taken a tea/fag break.
Unneccesary comment from the bloke behind - . disproportionate response from the bloke in front.
Bar ends at a trail centre? I'd definately have battered him for that.
The guy following is being a total knob, but then the guy in front obviously has issues...any sane person would have let the other rider go in front at the point where they had the first tangle.
At the end of the day it doesn't really matter what was said during or at the end, the attacker should have just walked away. There was no self-defence or anything, it was an attack.
The cameraman really should have taken 60 seconds and let yellow jersey carry on, but darn that guy needs to take a chill pill. Completly uncalled for.
errr... trails are not a race track, so unless this was a closed/race trail..... the bloke behind was being a bit of a knob. ALl he had to do was wait a few mins before riding off.
BUT, no one needs to hit anyone else. It's just a matter of intelligence. Neither of them exhibiting much in this vid.
Having said that, it's really annoying when some bloke is just going a bit too slow in front of you, and cant work out how easy it would be to let you past.
All mouth no trousers, then screams like a bitch when he gets owned 😆
that camera angle was way too short.
guy behind = bulb end.
I like the trail, where is it?
It's making quite a bit of news in New Zealand with the help of reddit.
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Guy following should have dropped back, waited and given enough space IMO.
Guy behind created the confrontation, and got his comeuppance.
C.O.A...
Hmm, video mam was in for a shock, eh? Very unnecessary action from the rider in orange. +1 for bar end comment above.
Camera guy, get that wa£k£$* to court. Or next time 'rider on the left' 😉
My wife noticed: guy in front messes up big style going up the rise and just gets so angry he takes it out on the only one around. still, that's no good.
[b]He's older, less fit, his bike's crap and he hasn't got a camera - there's your answer![/b]
Well, they both seem like bell-ends to me.
The angry bumble bee one has got the better aero bulge though.
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The bloke in front seems the sort of ignorant tool you need to learn to deal with in life. There are many of them about, mostly sitting in the middle lane of the motorway.
As such, the situation was handled badly by the faster rider who upon seeing his calls were getting nowhere should have taken a few minutes before continuing.
Meh. Guy behind started something he couldn't finish.
He's older, less fit, his bike's crap and he hasn't got a camera - there's your answer!
No reverb either. No wonder he is raging.
I bet he gets in a state when people try to overtake his Zafira too. 🙂
Both a bit dum.
Not seen anything like that in the uk yet. Buy guess it's only a matter of time
Like people are saying the guy should of dropped back and bit his tounge.
Mind you if he was that good he should of been able to easily overtake on some of those sections where the trail split.
Bumble bee guy has issues!
Both were cocks.
But the guy behind caused it.
No need to rag up behind someone and try to pass on public singletrack.
Fat people are always angry.
Nice trails. Bit narrow though eh? Guy at the back should have just stopped and waited for 5 mins, does he expect all other slower riders in front to stop and pull aside so that he can have an uninterrupted run?
This will become more common as people move to Strava.... 😉
If I'd been in front I'd have pulled over, if I'd been behind I'd have held back; worra wimp.
Guy behind should have stopped and taken a couple of minutes.
Fat people are always angry.
I'm fat and I'm jolly! You ****ing starting something?
Problem with riding someone's back wheel is that you never know what sort of day they've had! For all we know the guy in front could just have lost his job, been told by his wife that she's leaving etc - there's never any guarantee that giving someone a hard time isn't going to make you "the straw that broke the camel's back". Stripey Shirt's reaction might be completely over the top, but Video Man triggered the confrontation, then couldn't manage the consequences, and got left squealing like a little girl on camera while a chubby man in lycra works him over. Not sure I'd have shared that vid for the world to see!
I guess IF I had saved for months to buy a GoPro cam*, then winched to the top of my favourite bit of singletrack in high hopes of getting some footage of swoopy, interrupted gnarr-ness, and I very politely asked to squeeze by a MAMIL, and the request was denied, I'd get a bit lairy too.
That said, when he comes accross him for the second time, he is most deffo in the wrong for exacerbating the situation.
*I haven't and don't own one.
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The guy at the back had verbal diarrhea the guy in front was probably wound up by the idiot behind and over reacted, should've let him past with a few choice words of wisdom.
When tools collide..........
Refused to let someone pass and then assaults said person , yellow man is a knob.
Flying Nun looks ace.
if your going to start mouthing off to people and tell them u will run them off the trail u at the very least must be able to back up ur threats
im sure i saw harry hill in that vid somewhere ... i'll bet He started it the bluddy baldy sh*tstirrer 😆
This sort of thing should be a discipline on the Olympics. A ride then a battle. I'd watch it
Not sure I'd have shared that vid for the world to see!
This 😀 Why would you upload a vid of yourself getting owned by a middle aged fat dude and squealing like a little girl?
No winners here! Sad thing is that trail looked ace and both would have got to the bottom with ear to ear grins had just one of them had any common sense.
So what is this trail etiquette thing? Should slower riders let faster riders pass? This seems to be the norm where I ride and everyone seems happy. Of course I mostly overtake riders going up, but they get to pass me going down - so it's nice to be nice.
Video man had a few chances to overtake, but should have stopped and waited if he couldn't do it safely.
I'm sure I've seen that guy at the back before:
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Foreigners. Very tempremantal.
if your going to start mouthing off to people and tell them u will run them off the trail u at the very least must be able to back up ur threats
This. Pair of eejits, but Mr GoPro was architect of his own demise.
Bumble Beed dude strikes me as being a nasty piece of work. The kind of guy who if he thought he could get away with assault wouldn't think twice about it.
The lad following needs to learn recognise this kind of tool & to stear clear of them.
Guy in the back was a total dick but the middle aged xcer should have let him pass when he could have he had the chance there is no point arguing with idiots. The kind of bullying that the guy behind showed is what keeps lots of people out of our sport at local xc race's and endro's was it a world cup timed run no.
Bloke in front should have let him pass, but the bloke behind had his chance when they collided head on half way round but instead did the small loop instead so he deserved what he got as until he got whacked he was just gonna keep ranting on - Enjoyed that tho, trail looked ace and it was more intense than 1st round of DH World Cup the other week!
i always pull over if a obviously faster rider catches me.
manners cost nothing.
ultimately, the guy who delivered the beating was in the wrong.
you don't go around hitting people because they have a complaint against you.
and the guy with the camera didn't threaten anything, he just had a whinge.
I deduce that given the way he was riding and his violent response, that the rider in front had bum grapes.
"If you wanna faaakin paaass.."
Couldn't agree more 😉
Both blokes are utter selfish cocks and don't deserve to ride. The bloke in front should have found a place to go off to the side to let the faster rider pass, the guy at the back should have stayed further back instead of pressuring the rider in front, or should have waited a couple of minutes to let the guy finish the section. Bumblebee should have kept his temper in check.
Not sure why anyone would upload that video. " Here's a video of me being a dick, to a guy who's also a dick.".
" Here's a video of me being a dick, to a guy who's JUST TRIED TO STRANGLE ME.".
that's why
Its the camera, i swear having a camera on your helmet turn you into an idiot.
Guy in front must just have had a tiny camera (or something else)
Gobshite gets a slap, seems fair. Agree with ^ that, cameras are the devils work, remember that Scottish bloke always posting commuter incidents the camera had him looking fir them.
Except the video doesn't show any of that - there's not really any video evidence of anything taking place, other than Video Man not really having thought through the possible consequences of his actions.
Brakes - he threatens to run him off the trail - if that's not a threat then what is?
That was funny was the guy getting punched shouting for his mummy at the end 🙂
The guy in front could have easily given way! instead he chose to be a complete cock and take the piss, what's the point in giving him a 60 seconds head start when you've already caught up with him?
He's moving slower so should simply move out of the way, if he had gotten off his bike after doing that and started being mouthy to me, I would have ditched my bike and gear and gone at it tooth and nail!
if that's not a threat then what is?
for the front rider's response to be proportionate it would have to be a lot worse of a threat than that
Shit on shit actions.. Pretty much agree with all of the above that both parties look like idiots. Although turning round and doing that to camera guy is just idiotic.. Funny when the camera man tells him it's all on video and he turns round to one back and get it..
Its a bit of handbags, the "he tried to strangle me with my helmet" is bullshit, lets face it he called being prodded in the chest assault. Its a shame the media have just published his side of the story and not pointed out what a mouthy obnoxious cock he is.
And I thought trail etiquette was to make allowances for slower riders, not try and harass them off the trail.
It's just like a real life version of a big hitters thread 😆
no-one comes out of it looking good and those not involved just shake their heads and giggle.....
Assault is assault. Selfish guy with no trail etiquette was itching for a fight, went straight for the camera to cover up his crime. Attacked twice, second time throwing the rider to the ground. We all have to deal with insults in our lives, we don't resort to violence.
Guy in front is a tool, move over if somebody faster wants to come through.
Bloke behind should have just waited a minute and not started saying such stupid things once it was obvious bloke in front wasn't going to let him round, bloke in fronts clearly a very angry man!! As if the guy wearing the camera actually released this, if I had footage of me starting an argument then screaming like a small girl when the other person turned on me I don't think I'd post it on the Internet!!
Video evidence that a camera on your helmet turns you into a cock. And you are able to find other cocks to film with ease.
No need for that sort of behaviour out on the trials. But if you go out looking for trouble, don't squeal for your mum when you get your arse kicked.
trail centre's for ya.. 😀
quality that
That's the Port Hills above Christchurch, I've ridden there, it's ace. And it is by no means a trail centre, and not generally busy.
I disagree with the "slower rider should pull over" - except in a race of course where you definitely should, it's the rules.
Public park, no way, it's just riding, guy behind can stop and make a gap if he cares so much.
However people towing caravans should always pull over, in fact should only be allowed to drive between midnight and 4am, especially if they are Poms.
Lets look at the facts .
Bumblee is on a HT .
Bumblee does not have 720mm bars
Bumblee does not have bolt trough forks
Bumblee is wearing Lycra , and its simply wrong
Bar Ends , well
Bumblee is not carrying a small bike shop in his Camalbak
Is not running 2 x 10 !
So riding an inferior bike makes you angry
Did he get dressed in the dark?
Its amazing he is still able to ride at all .
Peter Pansy is obviuosly gnarl core . He can jump, corner and is rad to the sic max .
Tubster Bumblee takes offence and dishes out some fist pie .
Tis is what happens when dicks collide
testosterone and two dicks collide.
In my experience - if you catch someone up and ask politely 99% of the time they'll let you through.
If you catch someone up and start giving them a hard time and being a rude cock they're purposefully hold you up.
The guy with the camera was in the wrong. I don't care how good you think you are at riding you don't have the right to tell others to get out the way.
Fat people are always angry
Not all of them, just those who like beer, tattoos and footy... It's short people you need to look out for 😉
The fat bumblebee should have pulled over, that's basic etiquette in any situation where you have people moving at different speeds (other than racing of course). Still, the chap with the camera should have backed off once he realised he had a selfish idiot in front.
Both guys were being really inconsiderate and it just escalated into willy waving and violence. Thankfully never seen anything this bad at UK trail centers. Often get the odd rear tire buzzers but it's best to just pull over and be rid of them, rather that get all worked up.
Oh dear...will watch again later with sound..
3:19 Why does he not just go past him? Perfect opportunity. Instead he chooses to loop back on the trail to end up behind him again? Bumblebee guy was blocking the trail to the right so he could have cruised by end of story...
fat bumblebee deserves a prize..
peter pansy didn't have the skillz dem to pass so he provoked a fight to vent his frustration..
end result - he got his arse handed to him all round.. it's people like him that give our sport a bad name.. embarrassing.. he should take up road riding.. 😉
Both were idiots but the ending is brilliant, proper lol moment. Camera noob starts shouting about about assault after being pointed at, does exactly the same then gets battered. As others have said cameras do seem to make people worse. There appeared to be plenty of places where the track split to overtake and the slower guy managed to get ahead of him again as well.
...and of course, we've not seen Camera Man, so he could be a lycra wearing chubby as well - he may well even be wearing a lycra and body armour combo that merits some serious fist pie irrespective of his "elite rider left" shenanigans.
Confused? At 3.25ish the older lucra clad timid and respectful guy goes the wrong and our intrepid hero carries on the correct trail. Then if my confrontational magic he reappears in front of him again?
Anyway for all those who don't like cycling, only fighting then this is the link straight to the Pokemon battle
I love the way bumblebee man covers the camera at the end while laying the smackdown.
In court later: "No your honour, he just fell off his bike. I didn't touch him."
Both in the wrong FWIW, but why on earth did gnarrdude think it would be a good idea to post his humiliation on the internet?
3:19 Why does he not just go past him? Perfect opportunity. Instead he chooses to loop back on the trail to end up behind him again? Bumblebee guy was blocking the trail to the right so he could have cruised by end of story...
This^
No idea why he didn't just take the obvious shortcut to carry on with his gnarr crusade and avoid the whole ugly episode. Yes, bumblebee was being a chump but Gnarr boy really was asking for it. The equivalent of poking a Doberman with a sharp stick to move it out of the way and crying when it tuns and chews your arm off.
Testosterone and adrenaline got the better of them both, but gnarr boy obviously feels public humiliation is worth it in order to track down the perp to dish out the comeuppance..
I am probably late on this discussion.
But the guy following very politely asked to pass by. For those that say he should have stopped and waited a few minutes, think of it from the followers point of view, if he speeds down and then re meets with the guy in front there is more chance of an accident when the guy in front could just have let him go and each are much better off.
And as for throwing him to the ground twice and from what it sounds like kicking/ hitting him it was completely unnecessary.
The guy following was a bit of an idiot, but not nearly as much as people are saying, I bet anyone here would let a faster rider pass by to avoid accidents
Camera guy was bound to be dressed like a plump power ranger, it would have probably taken a nuclear strike to cause him any damage. But at least bumblebee guy tried.
I think his words were "[i]I'm going to ride you off the trail[/i]"?mattamomo - Member
I am probably late on this discussion.
But the guy following very politely asked to pass by
Guy with the camera is a bully.
Maybe he'll think twice before trying to intimidate anyone else out on the trail.