[Closed] Trail side puncture repair kit, overkill?

How far are you riding?

Is it somewhere you've experienced lots of punctures?

Generally I'd have said a little bit of overkill. But, in the current times, take anything that you think you'll need to fix a mechanical and extras if you can. so sounds ok, you're to trying to win any races at the moment, simply need toe exercise and get home safely

You'd have to be having a pretty bad day to make use of the 2 inner tubes, and the inner tube repair, and the tubeless repair...

Why the spare tubeless valve?

May as well add some sealant and some tubeless tape while you're there and you'll have a full set up to convert anyone's tyres to tubeless out on the trails.

Unless you're doing 100+ mile epics out in the wilderness, yeah - it's a bit overkill. How many actual punctures have you had in the last 6 months?

Sounds reasonable if youre intending to ride over a bed of nails 🙂

overkill? I've never been caught yet after giving away a tube but maybe that's luck or karma

ref spokes I have some sort of carbon fibre / string thing that can replace a broken spoke I'd have to google to find it but popular with touring types...once wasted a good (bad) bad half day tracking down an open bike shed for a mate with a broken spoke and a few more days to ride

also a bottle opener of course and some sort of brass tap tool from a hardware store that opens up water taps that don't have a handle on them 😉

I just take some tyre plugs, a tube + patches and a pump on most rides.

Been about 7 years since I had to call for a lift and that was because the battery had died in my lights (so now always go with backup lights). The Chilterns aren't particularly prone to slashing tyres though.

Figure that if it's that bad I'll either stuff it with grass or ride on on the rim strip. Only had one ride aborted due to tyre failure since going tubeelss, that was on the fat bike and was mostly down to not being arsed to put a tube in and pump it up. Just rode the 10miles back to the car with a squirmy tyre at about 5psi.

If I was going out for a big ride I'd take more stuff, but I think a lot of people overpack.

As a "get you home" kit you need:
Enough cable tides to jury rig a singlespeed
Some way of solving a flat tyre (grass is generally plentiful)

Some people insist on carrying a camelback filled with a workshop full of spares. You don;t need that, just enough to go for the nuclear option that get's you home, anything else is a bonus.

why so many repeat items? (pumps and CO2 gubbins)
that's more than i would take on a XC ride, and by XC i mean crossing an entire country, or two 🙂

Multitool with chain breaker
2 tubes
Hand pump that works (CO2 is heavy, bulky and a use only once option)
Tyre levers
Gaffer tape (wrapped around pump)
Spare links
Valve core remover
Tyre boot (coffee bag is light and durable)
Zip-ties if absolutely paranoid, i've taken these on many multi-day rides and never used them mind

i was put off by those tubeless tyre plug things (Dynaplug) because of their expense but they have been a tyre/ride saver more than a few times so you can ditch a lot of your excess kit and replace with something like this

So riding is in the Southdowns, lots of flints etc..

Rides are from door to door can be 30-50 miles, 15 miles of that can be on road just getting to and from the countryside as im in Portsmouth so have to deal with glass, thorns from bushes etc on the cycle paths/roads...

Spare tubeless valve is being carried because i have one and it takes up no room, lol @ sealant and tubeless tape, well i do have the gaffa tape in the tool bottle so half way there, maybe over fill my tyres with sealant so then i can take some out to convert someone's bike by the side of the trail??? lol

So last puncture was last weekend, rear tyre sidewall rip due to flints, 20 miles from home, i chucked some card in the tyre, fitted a tube and used my only Co2 canister to inflate

Rode straight home, 2 miles from home i get a puncture from some glass when i pulled over on a cycle lane to let people pass whilst keeping good distance, 2 mile walk home made me think what if that 2nd puncture happened 2 miles after the first one

Normally when im on the E-mtb im not too far from the car which has a tool bag in it with everything i need but i don't drive to ride when on the XC bike (especially at the moment) and i don't like to wear a backpack (wear one 5 days a week commuting 100 miles on the road bike)

How far are you riding?

The Tour Divide, I’d guess based on that list.

Too much mate for most stuff - defo drop at least one of the tubes. Tubeless punctures are v rare.
Spot on for wilderness riding.

It's not a big deal to carry all this stuff but you would literally go years without using any of it.

why so many repeat items? (pumps and CO2 gubbins

The pump comes with a Co2 canister hidden inside it, as the pump is small volume it would take a while to get a good pressure manually pumping so having a spare Co2 cartridge makes pumping it to 30 psi quicker/easier, in a worst case scenario that i use both Co2 cartridges getting one tyre to 30psi and then i puncture again i can just pump using the pump manually albeit it will take a while

Spare Co2 head takes up little room so i just chucked it in just in case the pump fails for some reason

Not dropping one of the tubes as that's why i had to walk home last week!

All this kit is in the tool bottle (apart from the pump and multi tool in the head tube)

The weight isn't an issue and if i removed the tube then stuff would start rattling around and drive me mad!!!

why so many repeat items? (pumps and CO2 gubbins

The pump comes with a Co2 canister hidden inside it, as the pump is small volume it would take a while to get a good pressure manually pumping so having a spare Co2 cartridge makes pumping it to 30 psi quicker/easier, in a worst case scenario that i use both Co2 cartridges getting one tyre to 30psi and then i puncture again i can just pump using the pump manually albeit it will take a while

Spare Co2 head takes up little room so i just chucked it in just in case the pump fails for some reason

i'll repeat my recommendation for one pump that actually works then 🙂

there's an old hiking adage of “You pack your fears”, you appear to have quite a few

It depends on the ride, in a group in summer I'd take 1x tube and 1x CO2, on the basis that I don;t want to be holding up the group (so use CO2) and if I'm unlucky enough to get two trashed tyres that won't seal in a ride someone else will have a spare tube.

The opposite on a winter clubrun, I take a full sized frame pump and offer it to anyone that gets a flat rather than wait for their mini pump.

For a day ride
Multi tool
One tube
Pump
Small aerosol sealant
Chain links
Cable ties

For a two week tour add
M5 and M6 nut and bolts
Second tube
Puncture repair kit
Spare gear cable
Brake seal kit

That's the lot

you can drop the puncture repair kit - the glue wont stick a patch once there is sealant on the tube. The residue of sealant will get everywhere including your first and second replacement tubes.

What are the spare spokes for? I've ridden wheels for years with missing spokes! LOL.

For tubeless I take the following when local:

Sahmurai tyre plug kit (fits in end of handlebars)
Pump (attached to frame via mount at bottle cage)

Going further afield then add:
Spare valve + core
Flexible super glue
Pair mini pliers - to get thorns out before putting in tube
Piece of old toothpaste tube for tyre boot.
Tyre levers
Tubolito inner tube

That's the puncture stuff, in addition I'll have the correct sized allen keys bits for the bike, a chain tool, zip ties. Spares will include various nuts and bolts, a spare chain quick link, a bit of wire to hold the chain tension. I'll also have a needle and thread.

All the above will fit in a Wildcat Cheetah top tube bag with room to spare.

Prior to all that is consistent and continual bike maintenance. Won't stop genuine accidents but will prevent most mechanicals.

You could add a tube puncture repair kit in case your second tube is affected. Good in winter if theres any hawforn bushes edit just seen the comment above about sealant

I thought I had everything I needed to fix my bike. Currently waiting for a lift having snapped a spoke which then went through rim tape and tyre. Massive tear so pop tube in just to get home. Pump head over worn so air leaks and I can't pump the tube up. I thought I was prepared for everything, turns out not.

And I've just remembered that this is the wife's pump that I swapped with mine after she complained that it was too hard to use. Guess I know why now. Grrrr

Seems like a lot to me, but I guess it depends on the ride.
Won't the valve from a spare tube fit tubeless? If not, then find tubes that will.

Why no chain joining link?

We take 1 tube a pump, zipties, ducktape, multitool, spare valve spare brake pads, chain link, gear cable and that's about it

Yes you are carrying too much.

I always take a spare jockey wheel if I go very far as I once snapped one in half when a stick jammed in there,

OP, stuff in your bottle is almost same that lives on both hardtail and road bike in 2nd bottle cage. Only missing rear mech hanger, small chain lube, ibuprofen, spare brake pads, a tenner and c3023 or whatever battery for HRM etc.

All set to go for 10 or 150 miles. No faf, no camelback. Always ready.

(CO2 is heavy, bulky and a use only once option)

But a godsend when your pump fails. Trust me.