[Closed] Traffic light without a stop line

The missing line is clearly deliberate.

I disagree, the whole thing looks like a dog's dinner.

I'd stop in the advanced box.

That's the one outside the entrance to Ashton Court. There used to be signs saying cyclists should turn onto the pavement using the lowered kerb between the two stop lines and cross to the cycle path the other side of the junction. That's how I've always used it when coming back from Leigh Woods. You're right in that the phasing of the lights doesn't give much time to get across if you just beat the change to amber, caught me out once and I've used the crossing ever since. For the sake of a minute or so delay I'd use the crossing.

Yes, a cyclist should stop - the red light applies to all road users.

View the streetview from the other side and you'll see a cyclist stopped in the box! 🙂

If you click on the timeline for the streetview it actually was an ASL in 2008. Might be worth a quick email to the council, see what the design is meant to be like and how it should be used.

Calling that a bike lane is pushing it a little.

I'd stop at the stop line.

Yes, a cyclist should stop – the red light applies to all road users.

RED means ‘Stop’. Wait behind the stop line on the carriageway

The lights control a stop line which is why you don't stop at a red light on the exit to a junction, and why temporary lights always have that "stop here" sign.

It seems clear that in this case the authorities have messed up the road markings for cyclists, which is not uncommon. If you ride through it and get yourself hit, you could probably have fun suing the council from your hospital bed.

Yes, a cyclist should stop – the red light applies to all road users.

The red light applies to all, but stopping at red lights is only mandatory where there is a solid stop line*, so a lane without one—assuming you proceed fully within that lane—means no mandatory stop. (* Note that temporary lights have specific legislation which gives them equivalent status without the painted line.)

I'd agree that the junction's simply a dog's breakfast, though, not least because it's an advisory cycle lane, which means you could legitimately ride a motorcycle in it and bypass the light. But also because I'd guess that about 99.9% of drivers who saw someone legitimately proceeding through the red light in that lane would be ignorant of the technicalities and would therefore have a hissy fit about it.

Where would you stop (if at all)?

I'd stop at the stop line in the middle of the main lane, but that's nothing to do with the academic question of whether the cycle lane has a mandatory stop; it's because like most British (anti-)cycling infrastructure the cycle lane is a piece of crap that I wouldn't touch with a bargepole. But then I'm fortunate enough to be able-bodied and experienced enough to be desensitised to mixing with motor traffic (and if I wasn't, or if I was with/carrying/towing a child, I still wouldn't be in that crap cycle lane, I'd be on the pavement instead).

I know this junction well! Never even noticed that though. It should have a solid stop line running through the cycle lane in line with the forward stop line. Give North Somerset Council a call. I used to work for them looking after road markings and signs. cant remember this ever coming up as an issue but it does look a bit crap on closer look.
I always throught this junction performs pretty well. you would have to be pretty dim to ride through on a red light despite the lack of stop line.....but if you did the consequences could be pretty dire!

I’d stop at the stop line in the middle of the main lane, but that’s nothing to do with the academic question of whether the cycle lane has a mandatory stop; it’s because like most British (anti-)cycling infrastructure the cycle lane is a piece of crap that I wouldn’t touch with a bargepole.

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Edit - I would also be in the middle of the lane until after the end of the traffic island on the main road ahead