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[Closed] Tour de France Stage 17 - Digne les Bains/Pra Loup - In the heart of the legend

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I liked Kelly's joke afterwards too


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 2:10 pm
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Kelly not only talking but making jokes- surely the biggest surprise of this year's tour after he's had a decade of snoozing in the corner of the studio?


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 2:11 pm
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Yes, he really does seem to have come to life. Very welcome.
Worth putting up with Carlton's forced cliches 🙂


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 2:13 pm
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Kwiatkowski abandons


 
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Kwiatkowski abandons

Tour of Norway coming soon.. 🙄


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 2:19 pm
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Sean Kelly is a bloody legend, his dulcet Irish tones are wonderful.


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 2:19 pm
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Rear wheel skid from Lemond followed by a close inspection of a crash barrier

Quite enjoyed that. Annoyingly had a call so missed the one on Marion Rousse.

Funny seeing Lemond on a bike. Looks like someone's dad who's lined up for a Sportive but I'm pretty sure he'd still destroy most up and down hill.

Kwiatkowski sick.


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 2:19 pm
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Just seeing Talansky there, it really has been a pretty anonymous TdF for Garmin Cannondale so far hasn't it. As I think about it, a fairly poor season full stop so far. How sad.


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 2:28 pm
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Oof, Pinot down but back up again.


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 2:39 pm
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Pinot's just fell off, very innocuous, back tyre let go when accelerating out of a corner, got straight back on and is off again.


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 2:40 pm
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I think Pinot hit his pedal on the floor.
RM.


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 2:41 pm
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And now the fun starts


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 2:45 pm
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Pinot's bricking it (not unreasonably)


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 2:46 pm
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Bertie's got probs...
RM.


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 2:47 pm
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Looked to be swapping something bike related with Sagan.


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 2:48 pm
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Big 4 (that's Valverde, not Bertie) smashing the downhill bit, no other Sky men in view.

Pinot's lost his confidence...again.


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 2:50 pm
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Roche still up the road for sky I think, as well as quite a few Movistar riders. Riders all over the place.


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 2:52 pm
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Don't think he is, think there's only 6 ahead of the yellow jersey group.


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 2:55 pm
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I don't think what they list on the screen is the full picture, the break was 20+ strong and is strung out over the 9 mins back to Froome and co.
RM.


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 2:57 pm
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I think we can expect fireworks in about 10 minutes time you know. Valverde is itching for a fight here.


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 3:01 pm
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Don't think there's 10 minutes racing left, is there?


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 3:02 pm
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yellow jersey is 8.5 mins behind the lead group whop are 3km from the summit so I think there is.


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 3:03 pm
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Not on the live tracking I'm watching.


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 3:06 pm
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3km to go, ignore me.

Anyway, another Movistar man is now in the group, Quintana has had a dig...


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 3:09 pm
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quintana attacking


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 3:10 pm
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Geskie win for Giant !

Would never have had him down for that..

Interesting battle for Froomie and Quintie 😀


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 3:13 pm
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Oh look there is G


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 3:15 pm
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I've sussed out what the stem thing is with Froome. He's got a rearview mirror he's looking in hasn't he? Because he certainly saw that move coming from Quintana - was accelerating before he was alongside.


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 3:15 pm
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Froome and Quintana in together, no real change in GC


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 3:16 pm
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While I like the idea of a British (ish) winner it would've been great to see Quintana dish out some pain today and haul a gap.


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 3:17 pm
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Froome descended like a boss.
Very worthy tour leader.


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 3:19 pm
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haven't seen Porte - they said when Bertie crashed that somebody may have gone off the road ?

Has he turned up yet ?


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 3:20 pm
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Porte came in about a minute after G - in front of Contador. They mentioned he was working with G on the climb.


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 3:21 pm
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thomas into 4th


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 3:26 pm
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Yes G, yes.


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 3:35 pm
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Because he certainly saw that move coming from Quintana - was accelerating before he was alongside

Could someone have told him on race radio?


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 3:47 pm
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Just looking at the GC now, Richie Porte is 1h 30m back, that is huge. Chavanel is the lantern rouge, Sammy Sanchez in 13th is also nice to see.


 
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[i]Richie Porte is 1h 30m back, that is huge[/i]

Yeh it certainly is. I know he did a lot of work for froome at the start and helped get him to where he is now but wtf happened there.

And to think he's moving to another team as a GC contender, er really?


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 3:51 pm
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The GC is fascinating looking again, Sky 1st and 4th, Movistar 2nd and 3rd yet you have to go down to 17th to find the next 2nd rider (does that make sense?), neither Bertie or Nibbles have any other riders in the top 20.

At the other end, Orica have 4 out of 6 in the bottom 20.


 
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Yeh it certainly is. I know he did a lot of work for froome at the start and helped get him to where he is now but wtf happened there.

That's just how it works when supporting a GC rider. Ride hard as long as you can and when your job is done you peel off and soft pedal what's left to conserve as much energy as possible. Porte's position on GC is pretty irrelevant to the team. Being as fresh as possible for the next day is vital.

His position on GC is more a reflection of team tactics than capability.

Can also be advantageous to be low on GC as they can send him up the road to support Froome later in a stage and no one is going to chase.

(Also seem to remember reading he had some bug too. Or was that Roche?)


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 4:01 pm
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The GC is fascinating looking again, Sky 1st and 4th, Movistar 2nd and 3rd yet you have to go down to 17th to find the next 2nd rider

In other words, a Sky domestique is ahead of most of the team leaders. And people are wondering how come Froome is doing so well?


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 4:01 pm
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In other words, a Sky domestique is ahead of most of the team leaders. And people are wondering how come Froome is doing so well?

What about in 2012 when our great raffle caller won, who was high on GC then?


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 4:12 pm
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Oddly, the point I was attempting to make is that you need a team mate up there to stay in the mix, you can't do it alone. Had Bertie had support he may be higher.


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 4:14 pm
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That last descent was super-scary. Whatever happend to all the predictions that the super decenders Nibali and Valverde would leave Froome for dead? Even Quintana was able to keep up.

Hats off to them all actually and a pity Contador decked it earlier as well. Pinot showed what can happen with a moment's lapse of concentration/technique.

I can't see Movistar/Quintana being able to do anything about Froome on this Tour unless something untoward befalls him.


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 4:47 pm
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[quote=molgrips ]Could someone have told him on race radio?

That's one possibility I suppose, but I prefer the idea that he's looking down at a mirror on his stem.


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 6:00 pm
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so are we going to all chip in and buy pinot a mtb.

26" obvs so he can get it round the corners

gutted for him - hope he can find the mental strength to continue


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 7:12 pm
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Kickstarter campaign to get pinot a skills session?


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 8:30 pm
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I think Pinot hit his pedal on the floor.
when ligget and Sherwin were saying he'd overbraked I was wondering why his back wheel jumped [b]up[/b] not skipped [b]out[/b]. Just had another look at replay and I think you're right.

Whatever happend to all the predictions that the super decenders Nibali and Valverde would leave Froome for dead
well froome used to be a mountain biker 🙂


 
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You know when you wished you'd watched a stage live 😡

Fark!! TJVG, not a fan but I'm gutted for the boy, really bloody gutted. Sad day.

Pinot, big fan, FML, you could see he was nervous but seeing him go down was still a shock. Stage was probably his if he could descend, he'll know it too.

Mad stage with all the riders up the road from the big teams. Surprised to see Contador go down as well.

Froome!! I reckon most would have sat up a bit if they were in yellow with that much time in hand and being that strong but na, not Froome, he's racing right 'till the end. It's as much about making a statement now, he's the strongest out there and he's going to keep proving it......unless he does a TJVG......


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 9:44 pm
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I think Pinot hit his pedal on the floor.

Good spot 007. I just watched the replay again a couple of times and you are definitely right. Seems like a rookie mistake and something I am always mindful of when cornering. I'm not usually racing for a TdF stage though!


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 10:29 pm
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Simon Geschke interview afterwards was great. Such a fantastic reaction to winning the stage.


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 10:49 pm
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Rob hayles on 5live called them pedal strike as soon as it happens and pointed out that pinot always pedals out of corners but starts a bit too early.


 
Posted : 23/07/2015 8:34 am
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[i]That's just how it works when supporting a GC rider.[/i]

Yes on reflection I was probably a bit harsh. Porte was probably told to take it easy and save himself for the alps. I love watching porte making people suffer on the climbs - he looks like the joker when he's grimacing.


 
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He'd have been in G's place if he hadn't had a bad few days at the start of the tour. Once you're behind by a significant amount, you're support, no matter how good you are (although would be interesting to see if Froome/Contador/Quintana etc would go super domestique).


 
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[quote=D0NK ]when ligget and Sherwin were saying he'd overbraked I was wondering why his back wheel jumped up not skipped out.

You're believing what the tweedle dee and tweedle dumb are saying? 😯 They kept repeating that comment even after watching several replays showing him pedalling at the time he crashed. I have to admit I'd not spotted the pedal strike, will have to watch again.


 
Posted : 23/07/2015 10:48 am
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You're believing what the tweedle dee and tweedle dumb are saying?
hell no, like I said it didn't add up, but until I saw RMs post I hadn't made the pedal strike connection 🙂

rookie error but as I've never been chasing someone for a tdf stage win I'll lay off the criticism, over eager rather than over braking 🙂


 
Posted : 23/07/2015 1:11 pm
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