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 rs89
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"Yet another tyre question..."

I recently bought a Pyga OneTwenty650 frame (catchy name huh?) and have swapped components over from previous bike.

Rear tyre clearance is much tighter than the previous frame.

I swapped over my existing Hans Dampf 2.25 to the rear but there is about 2mm clearance to the drive side chainstay - in the past weeks I've worn a nice groove through the paint thanks to British summer mud. Mounted on Mavic XM319 rims.

Any ideas for a tough rear tyre that comes up smaller than the Hans Dampf? around say, 2.1"? I've got a Nobby Nic 2.25 (cheapy plastic nastiness, the ones you get free with new bikes) fitted at the moment to tide me over but I'm not particularly impressed with the grip available. I.e., there isn't any... To be honest, clearance on the Nic isn't great either!

I have no particular brand loyalty - settled on Hans Dampfs as I like the grip and have so far been unsuccessful in destroying one, but they seem to be a clearance no-go for the Pyga.

GoogleFu and forum searches regularly point at the Maxxis High Roller, but this is also a 2.3", which I doubt will fit.


 
Posted : 05/07/2016 8:18 am
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I can't give specific advice for your frame, but the High Rollers seem very small for their stated size, so the 2.3 might fit. Otherwise, the Maxxis Medusa is quite a grippy tyre.


 
Posted : 05/07/2016 8:21 am
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Something by panaracer, the 26 ers I ran seemed quite narrow and I found them to be great tyres


 
Posted : 05/07/2016 8:25 am
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To get a rough comparison you can start here:

[url= http://www.reifenbreiten-datenbank.de/reifen-Schwalbe-Hans%20Dampf-27.5x2.25.html ]clicky[/url]

(a 2.3 HR seems to be about 1mm wider, for instance).

edit: recommended Ardent Race, but it doesn't seem to exist in 27.5


 
Posted : 05/07/2016 8:26 am
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The complete bikes come spec'd with Onza Ibex, presumably in 2.25 width.

That's where I'd start.


 
Posted : 05/07/2016 8:52 am
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my 2008 fuel ex had pitiful clearance and i wore a groove on the swingarm - I ended using a ground control.


 
Posted : 05/07/2016 9:12 am
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Something by panaracer, the 26 ers I ran seemed quite narrow and I found them to be great tyres

He said tough.


 
Posted : 05/07/2016 9:20 am
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Double post.


 
Posted : 05/07/2016 9:20 am
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My Anthem came with the plastic 2.25 ralphs, I've replaced the rear with a 2.3 ground control grid. They come up about the same size on a 19mm rim. So maybe a 2.1 ground control, although I don't think you can get 2.1 in the grid casing, just the control casing, depends if that is tough enough.


 
Posted : 05/07/2016 9:29 am
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Maybe a wider rim would stretch out the tyre more, so you could use the same 'size' tyre?


 
Posted : 05/07/2016 9:40 am
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I liked the ground control, but it's not really a 'tough' tyre either, even if you get it in grid flavour. It's more like an average tyre compared to the paper light non grid stuff.


 
Posted : 05/07/2016 9:50 am
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Some good ideas in here, thanks!

Wider rim is an interesting one - I thought that a wider rim gives you less tyre height, but equal/if not wider carcass width? I doubt I'll end up doing that, existing wheelset is decent so until my lardy ass pringles a rim I think they'll stay 🙂


 
Posted : 05/07/2016 9:56 am
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WTB trail boss 2.2 in tough fast casing.


 
Posted : 05/07/2016 10:39 am
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If it's only rubbing on one side, is the wheel dished correctly?

How tough is tough? Cut down dual ply wet scream?


 
Posted : 05/07/2016 11:52 am
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Look up Acycles.co.uk

2.25 Ardent isn't to bad for size.

Ardent Race are available from Nextdaytyres in 650b size.


 
Posted : 05/07/2016 11:55 am
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Nobby Nic can be had in 2.25 Double Defence variant, might suit? With proper compund, rather than cheapo


 
Posted : 05/07/2016 11:59 am
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If it's only rubbing on one side, is the wheel dished correctly?

Good question, I hadn't thought of that. I'll have a check of that tonight. It is only rubbing on one side, but non-drive side clearance was also pretty tight hence I thought the likely culprit was large tyres.

Appreciate the suggestions all!

[i]Nobby Nic can be had in 2.25 Double Defence variant, might suit? With proper compund, rather than cheapo[/i]

Did not know they made these in DD variant now. Also I've since realised there's a completely different tread pattern for the 2015 onwards Nobby Nics. My spare is a 2013 plastic one that was fitted OEM to a bike, so the compound is hard and slippy. Think I shall look into this!


 
Posted : 05/07/2016 12:18 pm
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I'm not aware of anything properly tough in a 2.1 width.
Best bets I can think of are Conti X-King Protection 2.2, Conti Mountain-KingII Protection 2.2 (both size up more like a 2.1) or the new Maxxis CrossmarkII Exo comes in a 2.1


 
Posted : 05/07/2016 12:21 pm
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Bontrager SE3


 
Posted : 05/07/2016 1:47 pm
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Here - there's a Ralph in 2.25 also

https://www.bike-components.de/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=double+defense&filter_category_id=752&filter_manufacturer_id=&order=manufacturer_asc&limit=24

Newer Nobby Nic is supposed to be a lot, lot better (I like my 2.8s)


 
Posted : 05/07/2016 2:06 pm
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Same issue here although diffent bike. I'm running 2.25 NN DDefence with a Magic Mary up front. Great combo. I had the old NN before and risked the new version and am happy!


 
Posted : 05/07/2016 9:58 pm
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Hans dampfs 2.35 rub on the swing arm of my 5.
Recently changed the rear to a rock razor, ok there not S grippy but there so much fun.
Muddy spots in the woods had the rear sliding sideways but it only goes so far until the large side knobs dig in.. Roll so much better to

They also come up narrower than the Hans dampfs, even though there a 2.35.


 
Posted : 05/07/2016 10:20 pm
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I have fairly tight rear clearance on my Spitfire and can get away with a wtb Vigilante in 2.3.


 
Posted : 05/07/2016 11:29 pm

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