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Lots of options for the frame, I'm thinking Orange cos its even made here....
Orange Alpine
Hope hoops
Hope brakes
Hope H/S
Renthall bars and stem
Middleburn cranks
er....
Marzocchi 55 Ti's - are British aren't they? At least they are not made in Asia 😉
I'm running out of ideas after that can anyone help fill in the gaps?
Just for fun at the moment but you never know 🙂
European is more doable than simply British, but still hard.
What countries are the materials made in?
Hope pedals, seatpost, QRs & BB. Looks like it'll be a singlespeed though....
Why buy an expensive set of parts to build a bike that may not be any use for you ?
Don't forget on the Hope Hoops that the rims will probably be French or American.
I don't think any Hope hoops use British made rims or spokes.
Highpath for the cassette? But the rest of the transmission could be tricky.
I've thought about this before and the problem parts are:
Rims
Spokes (and nipples)
Tyres
Tubes
Chain/cassette/mechs/shifters
So it looks like it'll be a single speed (but with no chain) that runs on the flanges of the hubs
If you open out to either European or UK companies not UK made you might get closer
sturmey archer!
I'd once considered this, then thought what's the point? I'd much rather buy the best/most suitable parts to fit a budget, regardless of who makes them.
if you buy stuff 2nd hand off eBay UK, does that count?
your money effectively stays within the country and no non-UK parties are receiving any money.
Don't forget on the Hope Hoops that the rims will probably be [s]French or American[/s] Chinese. FTFY and the spokes are Belgian too.
As I said - its just for fun, I was turning it over in my mind, I thought it would be hard :). No-one has mentioned forks yet, are any made in the UK?
I was stuck on the rims, rear mech, shifters, cassette. Can do Hope for the pedals now, I think DMR stuff is all manufactured in Asia but as a second tier option at least it is a British company / brand. Any other thoughts?
FWIW An Orange Alpine would be spot on for the kind of riding I do, I like the look of the recent proto. I have not owned a set of Hope brakes for years having gone the boring but brilliant shimano route but I love the way they look.
Where do the Hope bearings come from?
All italian road bike
That would be easy
No rear shock options either. I think forks and shock would have to be European items, Marzocchi or BOS
I think DMR stuff is all manufactured in Asia but as a second tier option at least it is a British company
Bit like
" I am a vegetarian,but I can eat fish,oh - and some chicken if it's organic "
🙂
Where were the old PACE forks made?
What about some old pace forks?
Find a hardtail made in uk so you don't have to deal with the shock drama
And run it ss, with no rims or spokes, and just make your own saddle out of a sponge and some gaffer tape
If you spread it to European you could add in DT swiss, at least their forks used to be British (PACE), or are they made in asia?
SHould be easier with a road bike. Do any of the old custom steel frame makers still make steel forks? or do they just ship a stock off the shelf columbus or similar carbon fork?
and just make your own saddle out of a sponge and some gaffer tape
Brooks for the saddle.
Sturney Archer are Taiwan now i believe.
Anyway an all british bike is a pointless exercise, you can't do it. What's more to get close would mean a huge number of compromises you would end up with a heap of crap.
Does Dunlop make MTB tyres?
EDIT (answer to own question): They don't, but the company started when old Mr Dunlop created a tyre for his son's tricycle.
One of the bike mags tried this about 20 years ago. I remember it well. They pretty much managed it but struggles on (I think) rear mech and inner tubes.
If they struggled 20 years ago..... perhaps this thread should have been named
"Totally Not Shipped in a 30 foot container from Asia apart from some raw materials and standard components All-Mountain FS bike"
Continental Tyres are made in Germany aren't they? Are Mavic wheels completely manufactured in Annecy?
Anyone remember that video that was posted in the Midweek Movies a while back of the old Raleigh (I think) factory from the 40s where they show the whole bike being made from scratch.
<sigh> Aye, them were't days <\sigh>
This topic pops up again every now and then doesn't it... Still not sure why anyone would really want to do it, but I'm all for you trying.
I'll echo what everyone else above said, possibly easier to build an all European bike, but hard to exclude far-eastern parts if that's your inclination. you'll probably be making a single speed, I'd have suggested a Sturmey Archer hub perhaps but I think they're at least owned if not made by Sunrace now (???)....
A frame and fork are really the easy bits, it's the little bits you need to consider, UK manufactured Rims? Spokes? Cables? Tyres for that matter? I'm sure they can be obtained but they'll be hard to sources and the prices Vs VFM will probably make you cry...
Are Rigida rims British?
ghetto tubeless to avoid tubes altogether.
Hmmm....not too long ago you'd have had Pace or USE forks on your list. Do they even make the USE Sub anymore?
The wooden bike that Guy Martin made? chief.
(those wheels should solve the the issues of Belgian spokes, Germany tyres, and French rims).
chains/sprockets/gears/shifters
60 years too late though
http://www.britishpathe.com/video/tour-de-britain-halfway
one of the original cassette hubs:
http://www.classiclightweights.co.uk/bayliswiley.html
cantilever brakes
http://www.classiclightweights.co.uk/components/resilion-story.html
tyres
http://www.classicrendezvous.com/British_isles/John_Bull_main.htm
The wooden bike that Guy Martin made? chief.(those wheels should solve the the issues of Belgian spokes, Germany tyres, and French rims).
And where does the wood come from?
Noway? Canada? China?
Dirty, Evil Foreign Ply!!!
It must be made entirely from British grown Ash and/or Oak, By hand!
When Sturmey Archer was in the UK
and Raleigh was in Nottingham
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Brompton
Moulton
ddmonkey - MemberRenthall bars and stem
Marzocchi 55 Ti's - are British aren't they? At least they are not made in Asia
Renthal mtb bars are far eastern.
Marzocchi 55s- Zocchi are Italian but they moved all production to Taiwan in 2008 (did they move some back?)
Sturmey Archer went to Taiwan
http://hadland.wordpress.com/2012/07/02/the-sturmey-archer-story-supplement/
made in the uk
hubs, hangers, chainrings
www.betd.co.uk
pedals, stems
www.burgtec.co.uk
pedals?
chainring?
http://www.thebicycleacademy.org/2013/05/03/balance-bike-course-details/
BromptonQuite british as in frames are brazed here and they are put together here
but spokes, from belgium, cranks from france, hubs from Taiwan (SA), tyres Taiwan, cables (jagwire) taiwan, saddle seatpin etc etc all from somewhere else.. etc etc
why are people so obsessed with this?
key thing - Brompton designed here..
why are people so obsessed with this?key thing - Brompton designed here..
I think that's the main thing, it matters less that we make [I]Everything[/I] as a nation and more that we make [I]Something[/I] i.e. innovative high quality products especially as you pointed out British designed ones.
The key to arresting a declining manufacturing industry is not to Horde manufacture and make poor VFM, expensive products in some sort of protectionist effort, but to try and identify areas where we can bring better skills and technical knowledge to bear on specialist products, Brompton and Moulton folders are a good example, products that have been copied to a certain extent in the east, but not really bettered.
When I bought my Colnago I wanted to build an 'all Italian' road bike but it is not really possible... my frame is made in China, the tyres in France, the inner tubes in China, the pedals in Malaysia, the bar tape 'who-knows-where?' etc... I think the only things really made in Italy are the Fizik Arione saddle and Campagnolo Record groupset. Possibly the Deda bars and stem.. but not sure about those really.
What I've ended up with is not an 'Italian bike' but more of an 'Italian-flavoured' bike. I'm happy enough with that. 😀
I would think that you could easily get an 'UK-flavoured' bike together. There are enough good UK brands in the market to do so.
It would certainly be possible - but I doubt you could do it with off the shelf parts.
Here's a woodworking project built by one of my students earlier this year (I should add, it was a furniture making course - we don't normally build bikes!).
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