[Closed] Tool stashing:oneup, Granite etc worth it or gimmick?

OneUp EDC is mint. Use mine to sort other people's bikes more than mine.

I've got the granite steerer tube tool, it's well designed, fits securely, and does the job.

Not cheap, but if you can afford it, I'd say its worthwhile

I quite fancy one of those too, but I think half a pound would be better down inside BB shell than in the steerer, but more prone to corrosion and grit. Hmmm..

Another vote for the granite. Had it in a few weeks now. Works well, doddle to fit, cheap compared to one up. It's basic, but enough to get you out of minor trail side issues.

My One-up pump has gone back under warranty.

The tool that goes in it is pretty neat, and has everything you'd need for a quick blast.

Sounding positive so far, anyone using the bar fitted tools?

Got the Spesh. SWAT version in my headset, when i picked up the bike I thought it was a bit of a gimmick, but it's been pretty useful, and nowadays, I'm pretty much entirely pack free when riding.

Got a OneUp EDC and I bloody love it. So useful, just the right amount of bits.

Oneup EDC here too, brilliant and great for those quick trailside adjustments.

The pump is OK, can be a bit of an effort getting decent pressure in but it takes the EDC and sits on my gravel bike frame where I can't fit the edc tool on its own.

I've got a little piggy on order which I'll be using to store a tube, CO2 canister (with a spare on the EDC) quicklink for that bike, and slug plug kit.

I really like the look of the EDC setup, but the pump + tool + tyre plug/chain pliers is £130 which is quite a lot..

My current setup is a SRWRN tool in the cranks, standard minipump on the frame, and a tube and tyre lever held on with a frame strap.

I am soon going to add a dynaplug tyre plug tool to the frame strap, and swap out my current SRWRN tool for the newer version which has a chain tool too:

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I run a couple of EDC tools and really like them.

I also find Granite Design quite irksome as it looks to me like they've never had an original idea if their own, everything seems to be a rehash of someone else's hard work.

I really like the look of the EDC setup, but the pump + tool + tyre plug/chain pliers is £130 which is quite a lot..

You don't need the tyre plug kit and chain pliers, well I don't.  A couple of rocks with a well placed strike can easily split quick links with a bit of practice, and I just cut the handle off of an old plug-stabber-thing and glued it into place where the OneUp one goes.  Works perfectly - as used yesterday when I holed a brand new Agressor on the shite-est trail in the world (transmission in Hamsterley).

I have a steerer tap kit if anyone needs to borrow one.

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I've gone full One Up EDC over time.
Started with the tool in the 70cc pump (no one had a 100 which I would've preferred).
New bike with a new fork & it would've been rude not to stick the tool down the steerer, nang in the pump.
Just ordered the plugger & quick pliers to complete the set.
The tool is great, but the pump is adequate. Not a patch on my old Lezyme micro floor drive.

plus one for the one up edc, just works and can't forget it. expensive but i wouldn't be without it.

I've the One-up EDC and the pump (as a few bikes have carbon steerers, so can't tap them..).
Yeah, it was £90 all in, but a brill bit of kit.
I've a holder on each bike, so just grab teh pump and pop it on whichever bike i'm using, knowing that's all the tools/air I'll need

DrP

That was my next question, what mini pump? In that case I'm glad the oneup pump isn't so good, as it's a bit spendy!

I've been umming and arghing about getting the OneUp steerer tool since they came out! Always been worried about fork warranty and the added weight!

I do have the smaller pump though, with a CO canister stashed in it. I actually think it's a very good mini pump, as do the friends that have used it.

If I'm on a short ride on the MTB with enduro bum bag or no pack, then it's just a couple of CO2 canisters and a reusable lezyne control drive head - no pump. If I'm on a bigger ride with my 15l pack I'll put my old topeak mini morph in the pack, it's about 15 years old and still brilliant.

I also have the oneup stem (and bars) that don't need the steerer threading. It is a bit tricky getting the preload on the stem whilst also lining up the bars, but once it's set up it's OK.

My EDC pump is always on the gravel bike due to the carbon steerer and the fact that I'm generally way beyond walking distance when riding on the gravel bike.

I've got the one up EDC on my hardtail. The Procaliber only has a short headtube so I can't screw the little tube or air cylinder on as it would stick out the bottom.

The storage tube is a bit long on one of my bikes so I use a Fork Cork to seal the bottom and store stuff in the head tube that way.

Anything wrong with an old skool seat pack? very cheap and you can put whatever tools you want into it. Also easy to move between bikes.

Anything wrong with an old skool seat pack?

I've had one came off before, only reason really. And I like clean lines on the bike, it pains me to put a bottle on there, even in this weather, but I also try and avoid wearing a pack.

First world? oh yes. 🙂

I love the OneUp EDC stuff, It's saved my ride a couple of times.

However I have now lost 2 pumps and toolkits because I can't put the bike on the carrier with the pump in situ. Therefore I take the pump off lay it on the carrier while I clamp the bike in place and then drive off leaving the pump to fall off at some random point *massive facepalm*

Next time I think I'll put it inside the forks.

Yes, I'm an idiot, at least that's what my wife told me.

Anything wrong with an old skool seat pack?

Back wheel whacks it when the suspension compresses with the seat dropped.

Not used the OneUp EDC but last week I got a Pedro's Tulio, basically a QR skewer with a multi-tool for the lever, after someone posted about it on another "what hidden multi-tool" thread.

I think it's designed for road bikes since the body of the tool fouls the arch where the seat and chain stays meet on all our MTBs. Found a 5mm deep washer which pushes it out far enough to be usable. Went for a long ride yesterday and nothing dropped off it so all good on that front. Not had to use it yet for actual fixes.

Tubeless applicator - Sahmurai Sword which plug into the ends of your bars.

Pump - Topeak jobby on a mount attached under the bottle cage.

Everything else is in a Jerry Can top-tube bag (actually a Wildcat Cheetah)

I’d get a Granite or an EDC but am happy with my current setup.
SWAT tool and tiny carbon Topeka pump on bottle cage. Saumurai tubeless repair kit in bar ends and a co2 cartridge & inflated in steerer with fork bung. Also got a split link dropped into star but under headset top cap.

Which fork bung you got Matt?

Those crank tools are crap, found one last year on the naughty. Can't remember if it was the fake or real deal. Great case against based on one example but it's enough to put me off.

If someone made a bung to fit a normal seat post (shock horror some of us still use those) that would do me. The thought of hammering out a load of star fangled nuts then paying someone to tap as many steerers again (all straight) after paying a Kings ransom on a tool that may not be compatible with an unforseen future bike just leaves me cold. I have better things to waste money on. If the EDC was half the price I might consider it but as it is it's just nuts.

Anything suitable or am I resigning myself to the inevitable?

“Which fork bung you got Matt”

Fork Cork. Bit spendy but works.

You have to be a right cack-handed twunt to not tap the steerer straight. The tool comes with a guide.  It also pulls the SFN centre out so the prongs can be removed

Partially relevant to the discussion, trailside repair tips - https://readymag.com/u16005985/1375842/21/?fbclid=IwAR2HZGX5i0wpgzAsfjMbn0hQUMWY6PeLDgC0K7G62-dClO5tsxsUUvd1iWw , it's one of those multi-directional scroll e-books.

As @teethgrinder says you don't need a quicklink tool, one tip not in the above ebook is to lift part of your chain along the chainring by half a link, this forces a triangle to sit up away from the chainring. If one side of that triangle is the quicklink then you can tap the peak of the triangle and loosen the quicklink. I'd heard of this technique and had to use it last year when a mate managed to make a Moebius strip out of his chain(!) and couldn't move the chain to get his QL tool onto it. I'll try and get a photo today to show what it should look like.

Anything wrong with an old skool seat pack?

That's what I use (Zefal Lightpack with tube, levers, anchovies thing protected with a biro lid, and a Topeak multitool).

Secure with a toe-strap and it's not going anywhere.

Son has something more enduro-specific but it looks messy in comparison.

Well I've gone for the Granite stash tool, as there is no need to tap the steerer tube and will likely get the bar mounted chain tool and tyre plugs. Seat packs would be great in theory, but from memory they rattle about and can get in the way, also look a bit pants. As above it grieves me to put a bottle on the frame, let alone a pump, but it makes too much sense not to.

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If someone made a bung to fit a normal seat post (shock horror some of us still use those) that would do me.

Cool Tool made these 30 years ago. The chain tool pin goes through the bung & holds it in your seat post. Seatpost quick release needs no explaining.

Are there any stashable tools that fit a carbon steerer that's sealed at the bottom?

No one using the Wolf Tooth encase bar wrap thing? Been looking at it for a while and would be good on the road bike, would only need co2 and tube in back pocket.

I've got a OneUp pump and EDC - use on my trail and gravel bike and I think they're brilliant. Have some tubeless plugs, spare links, multi-tool etc and a reasonable pump in a handy place. I'd have another in the blink of an eye.

Apologies for the dirty chain, it does need a good clean!

Further to my previous post, set your quicklink like this then tap towards the chainring and it will come loose. Just take care not to send the two halves flying 😩 Obviously if you use a 2x chainset put the chain on the larger ring. No need for a specific tool.

Anything wrong with an old skool seat pack?

I’ve had one came off before, only reason really.

This solves that problem. I'd hate to think of the force needed to break that cord. Also the Boa makes it really easy to swap between bikes. Much easier than taking bits out of handlebars.
Silca make it in two sizes.

https://flic.kr/p/2j87SXS

That big muckle saddle clamp is keeping it away from the (layback) seat post. I know there are dropper specific saddle packs, I've just not tried one.

I like the idea of the edc as I can have the thing out before I've even stopped to plug a rapidly deflating tyre.

I punctured at the top of stage 2 at dunkeld endure 2 years ago, if I'd had the anchovie at hand, if have lost 20 secs tops, instead of having to scramble about looking for it. Granted, I could've been better organised! 😊

I use the Syncros cage with the tool in it. Been used multiple times, thumbs up from me. You can rune a little adapter on the side to put a pump on it a CO2 & head if you like, but I still have to deal with a tube & tyre lever, but because I run Specialized saddles you can use the SWAT thing that bolts to the underside of the seat.

That has a tube, lever gas can & head all integrated into it. The only thing i'm missing really is the ability to store/use the tyre anchovies. Haven't found anywhere to put one of them, yet! I can't do it in a grip as I don't run bars with an outer collar on the grip, as I run my hands off the edge of the bars.

I'm not sure if anything much has changed since 2018, but this video gives a pretty good run down of the options:

Seth likes the Synchros Matchbox thing. I can see the advantage but it's not as stealth as some of the other options and might not work if bottle space is very limited on your bike

With the granite designs steerer tube tool, there's a small gap down the side of the tool that you can fit small tyre anchovies into.

I'm quite tempted by the EDC but looks like my steerer may be slightly too large (25.0mm rather than 24.8mm ID). Is anyone who's got one able to measure the O/D of the tap or top cap? I'm wondering if the 24.8mm is conservative and I'd get away with slightly large if I'm stupid with the preload torque?

I am soon going to add a dynaplug tyre plug tool to the frame strap, and swap out my current SRWRN tool for the newer version which has a chain tool too:

Let me save you some bother, the chain tool makes the whole thing too long to work with either Shimano hollow tech or SRAM. Might work with a different preload bolt on the Shimano cranks, maybe....

Actually it looks like it's the axle of the Shimano cranks, not the preload bolt. It actually fits a set of SLX cranks without the pedal inserts but not the cranks with the inserts.

I bought a forkcork from Bikemonger, 25 quid, it falls out all the time.
I use a bumbag now, hardly notice it.

@5plusn8 want to sell it? Drop me a PM.

i had the granite steerer tool on my last bike , i even got the bar end tools but unfortunately they dont fit chromag carbon bars so i returned them . the steerer tool is very nice and easy to fit but the bits are very short on it which can be a pain.

when i got my new bike i ended up selling it as the orange didnt match( should of bought the black version) . i was going to replace it but the new bike had space for a water bottle cage so i went with the topeak side load ninja cage with 18+ multitool attached and haven't regretted it at all . yes the integration of the granite tool was great but the topeak tool is just so much more useful

@pdw
The tap comes with a checking tool, if your steerer ID is 24.85mm* or more then OneUp say it won't work.

The OD of the tap is 25.45mm*

*Measured with my digital calipers

It seems the sweet spot is 24.2-24.8mm based on the "go, no go" tool measurements

Thanks @dc1988 sounds like it'd be more marginal than I thought.

@nixie you can have it mate, if I can find it. Where are you?

@5plusn8 thanks, that's awesome. I'm in Southampton. Will PM you.

Let me save you some bother, the chain tool makes the whole thing too long to work with either Shimano hollow tech or SRAM. Might work with a different preload bolt on the Shimano cranks, maybe….

Doh, I have SRAM Stylo carbon cranks...

I had a granite bar insert one with chain breaker. Made of cheese. Broke the first time I used it

Just fitted the granite stash, should do the job nicely and very easy to access. Off to check the reviews on the chain tool for more cheese reports.

Homemade fork cork...cost about £2.
Works well and doesn’t drop out.

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Very nice @cjr61 what bung did you use?

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Very nice @cjr61 what bung did you use

Thanks Nixie, eBay scupper plug 3.1cm IIRC. Bit of self amalgamating tape and a tubeless fork I already had. Nice snug fit in a tapered steerer Lyrik/Rev