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[Closed] To the family who think its OK to use a cafe as a creche at Antur

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Thanks.
Thanks for allowing your kids to ruin my lunch at the cafe in Antur Stiniog today by allowing them to scream and shout and scream and run about using tables as launch platforms for their toy cars whilst the older ones played "guess who" with the majority of chairs from other tables.

I'm still struggling to see how any parent could let it happen really.

Selfish t***s


 
Posted : 10/09/2017 3:04 pm
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If you'd mentioned to them at the time, it wouldve saved you having to post here, and risking the possibility of the message not getting through to them...


 
Posted : 10/09/2017 3:07 pm
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No point thanking me, I was shouting at my kids in Tesco.


 
Posted : 10/09/2017 3:10 pm
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So you didn't say anything to their faces, but came on the internet to moan?

Think I spotted where you went wrong there.


 
Posted : 10/09/2017 3:11 pm
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I glared at the mother and did say shut up to the kids, mother did ask the screamer to use his inside voice, (inside voice FFS?)


 
Posted : 10/09/2017 3:12 pm
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Nice try 😀


 
Posted : 10/09/2017 3:15 pm
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I'm surprised to hear that a fine-dining venue like the Antur Stiniog Cafe permits this kind of behaviour.


 
Posted : 10/09/2017 3:17 pm
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How much for the little girl?


 
Posted : 10/09/2017 3:19 pm
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Sounds like typical irrisponsible parents these days. You would have been allowed to beat their brats a few years back. I miss the old days.


 
Posted : 10/09/2017 3:25 pm
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Just for oldtalent


 
Posted : 10/09/2017 3:28 pm
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You could have tried upstairs for some peace and quiet.


 
Posted : 10/09/2017 3:29 pm
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Kidz rule its a 21st century thing.


 
Posted : 10/09/2017 3:36 pm
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Worst rant of the week.

Also, it's 'crèche'.


 
Posted : 10/09/2017 3:39 pm
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I've creched at Antur, is that the same?


 
Posted : 10/09/2017 3:43 pm
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surely cliché?

anyway, as rants go pretty poor. However I am on board with the sentiment, though I am regarded as right sour bastard.


 
Posted : 10/09/2017 3:45 pm
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U ok Hun?


 
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Sounds like typical irresponsible parents these days.

Kidz rule its a 21st century thing.

Sadly these are the norm now. I once made the mistake of asking some parents to kindly keep their yelling, screaming, hyperactive kids away from me and a friend in a cafe a few years ago after we had been nearly knocked off our chairs by one of them and other customers in there were doing that 'look and tut but do nothing' thing us Brits do so well. I got yelled at by one of them for daring to even remotely question their parental skills so badly that I now just move away from them now. I'm not great with kids anyway, dealing with family's and friend's kids I can do for an hour tops. When it's some random I don't know my tolerance level is much lower. I wouldn't kill one or even yell at it, ever. A stealth trip might happen as it runs past my table might be an unintended consequence....

* it can be parent or kid 😈


 
Posted : 10/09/2017 3:48 pm
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Sounds like typical irrisponsible parents these days. You would have been allowed to beat their brats a few years back. I miss the old days.

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Posted : 10/09/2017 3:53 pm
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Oh, and café, obviously.


 
Posted : 10/09/2017 3:56 pm
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no, it's not the norm, you're just not noticing the well behaved kids.


 
Posted : 10/09/2017 3:59 pm
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You can of course tell the kids off directly.


 
Posted : 10/09/2017 4:04 pm
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Posted : 10/09/2017 4:06 pm
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no, it's not the norm, you're just not noticing the well behaved kids.

Exactly. I saw loads more badly behaved adults than badly behaved kids today. It's a bit more difficult telling them off.


 
Posted : 10/09/2017 4:08 pm
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Isn't a crèche where you drop your kids off and then go and do something different?

So not being used as a crèche either.

(agree with the annoying kids though)


 
Posted : 10/09/2017 4:09 pm
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Similar thing happened to my Wife and friends at the calmababy swimming place they take the toddlers to.
Some kids who were too old to be using the toddlers play area were getting progressively more boisterous and after a while sent a couple of the toddlers flying.

The parents were ignoring their kids because it allows them to sit and have a gossip in peace.

One of the mum's told the kids they needed to calm down because they were knocking the smaller children over.
Cue tears and running to Mummy, only for the parents to get all shirty and start saying stuff like you have no right to tell our children off, you've made so-and-so cry etc.

There's a sign up that says kids under a certain age only and that parents must supervise their children....but this particular group of parents ignore it because it means they can have an hour's peace.


 
Posted : 10/09/2017 4:10 pm
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Is there one up saying no heavy petting too?


 
Posted : 10/09/2017 4:13 pm
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Obviously the parents didnt bring the "naughty chair" or the "naughty step with them, and that imortal phrase, "just wait till i get you home".

Now take a CHILL PILL AND RELAX, its only a cafe


 
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I popped out for lunch today. The Victorians knew how to run an establishment. Two bar set-up (I could still hear the wailing of the kids in the other section). And I guess back them the kids weren't allowed in in the first place.
I'm all for venting on here, British people are becoming increasingly rude and territorial over space, infact I'd argue we've become the most joyless, passive-aggressive, ugly nation on the face of this fallen rock.
As you were.


 
Posted : 10/09/2017 4:18 pm
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Antur you say?
There's quite a deep mine shaft very close to there if I'm not mistaken.
Parents and children could quite easily have " tripped and fell down a bit of a hole" 😉


 
Posted : 10/09/2017 4:19 pm
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It'd be better if some kids weren't born TBH.


 
Posted : 10/09/2017 4:21 pm
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Except there wouldn't be Skippy The Bush Kangaroo to get help, it would be Shaun's 3rd cousin Dafydd the Welsh Mine Sheep.


 
Posted : 10/09/2017 4:23 pm
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😆 at milky.


 
Posted : 10/09/2017 4:24 pm
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Was one of the parents called Ronnie Pickering?


 
Posted : 10/09/2017 4:25 pm
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We have one young mum and 2 kids that come into our shop.
When they arrive it's drop everything and follow the little girl around the shop making a note of everything she is stealing and then casually mentioning to mum that her daughter might have some bits.
The little girl gets told off but it's one of those telling offs that she gets every 5 minutes that have no worth at all.
They then get into their Bentley convertible and are off. We have noted with despair that she is with child again.


 
Posted : 10/09/2017 4:43 pm
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[quote=Drac ]Is there one up saying no heavy petting too?

I only ever pet up to a medium level at the local baths


 
Posted : 10/09/2017 4:45 pm
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Was one of the parents called Ronnie Pickering?

Who?

😀


 
Posted : 10/09/2017 4:59 pm
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I had a bad experience once. True story.


 
Posted : 10/09/2017 5:01 pm
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Probably my sister in law and her feral brats.


 
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[quote=yourguitarhero ]

Drac  » Is there one up saying no heavy petting too?

I only ever pet up to a medium level at the local baths

Where is the dividing line?


 
Posted : 10/09/2017 5:42 pm
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Bikini line.


 
Posted : 10/09/2017 5:46 pm
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we had been nearly knocked off our chairs by one of them

😀 a child in a café 😀


 
Posted : 10/09/2017 5:47 pm
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Where is the dividing line?

Bikini elastic. 😯


 
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I glared at the mother and did say shut up to the kids,

Bless. Brave Little soldier.


 
Posted : 10/09/2017 6:21 pm
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At the playground:

"Ronnie, Reggie time to go"

IKYN


 
Posted : 10/09/2017 6:27 pm
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Also, it's 'crèche'.
Oh, and café, obviously
chapeau, flash


 
Posted : 10/09/2017 6:42 pm
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Well, it's Squadron Commander the Lord Flashheart, or just Lord Flashheart if we're being pedantic.

I'm sure he'll appreciate being corrected every time he posts.
🙂


 
Posted : 10/09/2017 7:02 pm
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Woof!


 
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We have one young mum and 2 kids that come into our shop.
When they arrive it's drop everything and follow the little girl around the shop making a note of everything she is stealing and then casually mentioning to mum that her daughter might have some bits.
The little girl gets told off but it's one of those telling offs that she gets every 5 minutes that have no worth at all.
They then get into their Bentley convertible and are off. We have noted with despair that she is with child again.

Why not tell them that they're not welcome in your shop.


 
Posted : 10/09/2017 8:59 pm
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I'm sure he'll appreciate being corrected every time he posts.

😆


 
Posted : 10/09/2017 9:02 pm
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Meanwhile, thousands in Florida will be homeless and some will be dead by the time we wake up tomorrow.

Perspective.


 
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Not much to ruin really. The food ain't all that. It's not crap but it ain't brilliant.


 
Posted : 10/09/2017 10:37 pm
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what a load of nonsense, who actually cares?


 
Posted : 10/09/2017 10:45 pm
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Had you considered they might not have been allowed pudding?

A flapjack and some smarties might have seen them right


 
Posted : 10/09/2017 10:58 pm
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what a load of nonsense, who actually cares?

+100

I see more poorly behaved adults than children.

If they're being terrible have a polite word with the parents.

Meanwhile, thousands in Florida will be homeless and some will be dead by the time we wake up tomorrow.

Perspective.

Well said.


 
Posted : 11/09/2017 8:07 am
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this places sounds like bl00dy Mumsnet

OP - your total lack of empathy suggests you dont have kids

cut the parents some slack - this is how kids are


 
Posted : 11/09/2017 8:15 am
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[quote=Kryton57 ]Meanwhile, thousands in Florida will be homeless and some will be dead by the time we wake up tomorrow.
Perspective.

Yeah, what about them?

[quote=darrell ]cut the parents some slack - this is how kids are

It's not how my kids are. Sure all kids make noise and like to run around, but the OP is describing kids who aren't being controlled at all - plenty of places for kids to run around and shout other than in a cafe.


 
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Sadly these are the norm now.

No, it's certainly not. My kids are 8 and 10 (I really should have come up with more imaginative names) and are certainly not perfectly behaved all of the time, but damn it, they [i]know[/i] what good behaviour is and they can pull it out when needed. In a cafe like this, with other people out enjoying themselves, they will be on "best behaviour" and be expected to stay sat down while eating, after which they will probably go outside to burn off their energy where they can't bother other people. If they have one fault, it's that they love to meet people and chat with them, so sometimes they need to be told to leave people in peace to eat their lunch, but I try to let them interact when they can as it develops good social skills.

cut the parents some slack - this is how kids are

Some kids are certainly harder to manage than others (I coach kids here for my local club and have seen a good spread of behaviours!) but they should all understand what is expected of them and what "good behaviour" looks like. They won't always do it (hey, they are kids after all), but I'd expect them to fall back into line with little more than a word from the parents, or have some form of intervention made to explain to them why their behaviour is unacceptable.

I've had my own kids for a fair few years and not once have I been told off by another adult for their behaviour and, frankly, I think I'd be mortified if I was!


 
Posted : 11/09/2017 9:03 am
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cut the kids some slack - this is how crap parents are.

A small correction.

I don't trust kids, there all a conspiracy. They are here to replace you.


 
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I don't trust kids, there all a conspiracy. They are here to replace you.

They want your possessions and, damn it, they'll put you in a home to get them!


 
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We have one young mum and 2 kids that come into our shop.
When they arrive it's drop everything and follow the little girl around the shop making a note of everything she is stealing and then casually mentioning to mum that her daughter might have some bits.
The little girl gets told off but it's one of those telling offs that she gets every 5 minutes that have no worth at all.
They then get into their Bentley convertible and are off. We have noted with despair that she is with child again.

Have you checked to see what the mum was pocketing while you chase the little one?


 
Posted : 11/09/2017 9:11 am
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I find a deep growl and a menacing look often works.

Its difficult to see when you're in the midst of parenthood and little Johnny is the light of you're life, which is great(I know)for you but to others he may just be a source of noise and disturbance.

They can be like the dogs that jump up at strangers, "he's only being friendly" says the [s]parent [/s] owner.


 
Posted : 11/09/2017 9:12 am
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Shirley lunch at an uplift = obtain food > ram down throat > get on next available uplift? Barely enoughtime to write a strongly worded letter/post


 
Posted : 11/09/2017 9:16 am

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