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Now that's an coincidence! I'm been having the same issue ever since I bought a nice Thomson Elite silver finished post for my Ti456E. Looks like I'm not the only one then.
The clicking can be resolved with a good application of anti-seize to the post, but that will probably result in slippage. In fact, I'd be surprised if the clicking wasn't the sound of the post gradually working it's way into the frame. That's certainly what was happening with mine.
So while anti-seize will solve the noise, but it'll make the slippage worse. I'm using a Hope QR, and it's 'hope-less' at holding the seatpost in place. I've ordered a Thomson non-QR clamp in an attempt to resolve this.
It's worth pointing out that my SDG i-beam seatpost never slipped or clicked in the same frame.
...hmm...Thomson...
Thomsons are undersized to start with then the grooves wear and they get worse.
That's certainly what it looks like Bill.
Ok, so it looks like it is the post then, shame as it is brand new. Mangatank I can recommend the salsa QR seat clamp though if the Thompson one does not work out.
I'm using a Crank Bros post with a ss shim and it's silent. This is one of the early ones too.
Thomson post here in a Kona Raijin frame getting same clicking noise , didn't do it straight away ? Guess its gradually slipping , same prob with Hope qr clamp . Yet Thomson post in Hummerframe never been an issue ?
Yep my seat tube is baggy. Brand new Reverb dropped right down with little resistance. Carbon paste and a bit extra on the bolted clamp worked for me.
Brant if you're looking in I'll have the frame to you by the end of the week. It's dismantled so I just need to "build" a box.
in mmy bike i use a gravity dropper 27.2 post with thermoplastic shim, collar seat from thomson and perfect from the first day....
Salsa clamp non qr with reverb and its seeming to hold here....
Tried salsa clamps, went to thomson and now no slackening issues
Couple of good runs with the Thomson seat clamp now. Movement on the first run, but tightened up a bit more (though not straining the bolt), and everything stayed in place. Fairly big ride with fast, long, off-road descents but the post didn't shift.
The Thomson clamp goes beautifully with the Ti frame incidently. It's gorgeous!
@mangatank Any pics of the Thompson seat clamp mounted?
Am considering one too
Here you go, and from now on I promise to stop hijacking a thread for a different bike 😉
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@ manga - that clamp is lovely, what post is that? The Thomson Ti bars are nice too.
It's an aluminium Thomson Elite. Hence the post-slip issue 😉
It is a thing of loveliness though. I've taken the bike right back to silver and raw Ti and it's all the better for it.
Nice...
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Looks great, is the clamp not back to front though?
No. The seat tube's slot faces inwards.
Wow, that really does look fantastic!
Much cheaper than the ti equivalent! Not that's what stopped me though; I just preferred the look of the two metals together.
And might I recommend On-One's gorgeous CNC'd silver stem to go with it? A stunning object!
Good shout, I might need to nick that idea too! 😉
Right got a build waiting and a pre-order in.
Anyone else waiting for a delivery?
Well, it arrived a couple of weeks ago 😀
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16" and a smidge under 25lbs as is.
Arrived without a head tube badge or decals, but On One sent them out shortly afterwards. Not sure I'm going to use the decals to be honest, like it the way it is.
I've had it a couple of weeks now for a good shakedown and chance to form some thoughts on the bike. First impressions are that it ticks exactly the boxes I was looking for, i.e. a 29er 456. Was swithering between a 16" or an 18" and went for the 16" with a 50mm stem in the end with no regrets. Climbs really nicely and seems really planted on the descents, more importantly it just seems to fly everywhere.
Very happy with it 8)
Stunning!
Lovely bike that.
Well now the groomers are opening and winters on its way,min hoping mine will see some more action.... Anyone else got any updates, new bits, etc ?
I'm seriously considering one of these as my first 29er. Are the ones on the O-O website from a new batch with the original issues sorted?
id assume so although mine is original and still fine 🙂
For reference, my bargain fireline with 'issues' takes a 2.4 chunky monkey on a crest with room to spare(1x9).
Haven't a clue how to put the pic up here. It's the first photo on my Flickr page..
http://www.flickr.com/photos/98303183@N08/
abyjack - Member
For reference, my bargain fireline with 'issues' takes a 2.4 chunky monkey on a crest with room to spare(1x9).
Haven't a clue how to put the pic up here. It's the first photo on my Flickr page..
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Cheers Rob!
is mine the only one with white rims? (american classic disc):-)
pictures tomorrow
this is mine finished although i cant make my mind up about the white wheels, its different 🙂
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link- http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/processpost.asp?f=174
Hello!
I have an Inbred 29er, wich I'm enjoying quite a lot, but I would like to go for something a little bit more "gravitty" oriented. After a week enjoying a Chromag Surface, the concept of big wheels with long forks has really conquered my heart, and this Titus Fireline seems to tick all the boxes, but I have a major doubt, regarding size.
My inbred is size 19,5, and it fits me very well, but I wouldn't like to go much bigger than this. So the question is... anyone of you have tried an Inbred 29er? Did you use the same size in both bikes? Size 20" would be the logical choice for me, but I'm afraid it might be a little bit too long.
This is my inbred:
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Thanks a lot for your help!
Just bought an 18" fireline in the 15% frame sale!! My wife made me do it!!
if you find its a little small than you expected let me know as i bought a 20 inch and i think my mines a little too big
Lester
your wife may have made you do it but now she can do the same in the sales 🙂 might cost you more in the long run
She generally does!!!!
Got back from Tokyo today to find a box waiting for me - It is a beautiful frame!!
I have no decals(not bothered) or headbadge(more bothered) in the box. Are they sent separately or do I need to chase?
You need to chase.
Heres mine 🙂
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Lester - looks nice!
If it feels a bit big, you could maybe try a non-layback post and shorter stem, or is it stand over that is the issue?
What weight is the frame?
Why does on one recommend no tyre bigger the 2.25 on the site?
Ornitorincus - size wise the 20" Fireline has an Effective Top Tube of 24.5 inches, and the Inbred 29er 19.5" has an ETT of 24.4 inches, so almost identical, so not too long for you. I'm a pretty standard shaped 5'11" and went for an 18" Fireline.
Vondally - just weighed my 18" frame. Kitchen scales say 1650g, Bathroom scales 1.5kg. The max 2.25 rear tyre is due to clearance at the back end. See the pictures above to see how close the rear tyre comes to the seat tube. the bike is intentionally designed with short chainstays, and this is a product of that. If run 1x10, then a larger tyre will probably fit.
thanks Dan 😉
i have 3 other bikes and i have measured all the positions
seat to middle of bars
seat to pedal
fork height off of floor
saddle height off the floor
all measurements are more or less the same
it just "feels" big
it weighs the same as my ibis mojo so isnt unduly heavy, the bottom bracket is similar to the mojo.
i cant put my finger on why, it just feels big,
Vondally
hd biger tyres on it and the front derraileur cable was just touching the tyre, which i think you could just about get away with in dry weather, but when its muddy i reckon it would be a lot more of a problem. you can still put a bigger tyre on the front
cheers
Lester - sorry, didn't mean to teach you to suck eggs!! Maybe its just a function of big wheels making it "Look" bigger, if all else is equal.
Thanks Dantsw13! 😉
Dants (dan)
no offence whatsoever
thanks for your input 🙂
went out on it last night, methinks a shorter stem is a good idea, i will try that first
My Fireline frame is sitting in the Dining room taunting me!! I had been contemplating one for a while, but the 15% off frame sale was too good to miss!!
I'm yet to decide whether to sell another bike to fund the build (its my first 29er) or to engage in some long term money laundering from the Joint Account. 😯
I used a Problem Solvers Backstop Clamp to solve the front mech cable/tyre problem, moved the end stop position to the side, giving loads of tyre clearance.
Dantz
dont sell the mojo to fund the 29er build
🙂
big Pete
loads of clearance, there is hardly any room to the frame as it is 😉
but i think i will get me one of those problem solvers and give myself a little more room
Well my 3rd frame finally arrived the other day. The latest iteration seems a bit neater; Rear post mount is simpler and inline. ISCG is also straight, which the first 2 were not. Seatpost tolerances are better too, but the butt weld issue remains (solved by having more than ~110mm post insertion). As a friend said to me last night though, it wouldn't be an On-One (I know its a Titus...) without a few quirks.
Having been off the bike for 11 weeks it was good fun to be back riding it last night. It really is a fun yet fast bike. You can't be having a bad day because it won't let you fart about at the back of a group.
Whats the butt weld issue?
The parts for mine are coming together now! What forks are people using? Im drawn to the RS Rev RCT3's on CRC, but was hoping for something white.
dantsw - i may swap my Fox Float Kashima for your RCT3 Revs.... 😆
Sadly I stopped using Fox a few years ago.
Here is mine, built it up with Alfine 8 (for winter)
I used X-Fusion Slide forks which I got from Eighteen Cycles and seem very good for £300
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Before anyone says anything, its a half link chain and the tensioner should be here today.
Goes like a rocket on most stuff but is a bit compromised on steep up and dawn (but not as much as an S/S)
Only ridden it twice but have a few new Strava PR's already.
The bits for my build are coming together nicely!!! The plan is no decals with white forks.
As for bars, I've seen a lot of people talking about using flat bars on these to keep the front down. This is my 1st 29er - is this more of an issue on. 29er than a 26?
Also, does a raw Ti frame need heli taping?
I have a Fileline and all you need is Green Scotch Brite to brush any light scratches out.
Gloss heli tape will look mingin, not sure how Matt tape will look though.
I went for Exotic Carbon Risers and they are still packed up with about 20mm of spacers, and 50mm stem. (I have a dodgy back and neck so wanted to be more upright) I went up a couple of the steepest climbs around me last night and didn't have any problems falling off the back.
I have also gone for no decals, no real rubbing problems, but I might put some Velcro round the brake pipes just for a bit of added protection.
I give the frame a regular rub down with Johnsons Baby oil, which I was recommended to do by a friend who has had Titanium frames for ages, it has the benefit that the mud knocks off really easily. I havent washed it yet, just give it a rub with a rag and it comes up loveley 😀
Glad to see so many new owners after the early adoption.... Still loving mine on groomers and fast singletrack... Feels as playful as my ti456 with big wheel roll ability , lovely !
I'm seriously considering getting shut of my Helius CC and my Solaris and building one of these. They look bloody fantastic!
Still loving mine, with Pikes on it feels a bit invinceable!!!
Exotic Flat Carbon bars here and 60mm turbine stem in the cockpit (stem at 6deg drop).
Maybe some nice fat 35mm Carbon rims for it next!!!
Quite attached to my Yelli Screamy ... but I'd like a go on one.
re the Fireline, there's something of a contradiction on the product page:
"Huge tyre clearance is assured..."
"Please note: We recommend using a maximum of 2.25" width tyres."
Is anyone running bigger rear tyre, such as a 2.35 Hans Dampf or 2.30 Specialized Butcher control?
& if anyone is down Surrey Hills way and is OK to let me have a go on a medium (you can try my Yelli!), I'd appreciate that.
I ran a Purg ok if that helps.
Good point tho as I'm looking to go with 35mm wide rims and as far as I understand it they tend to jsut make the tire plumper (rather than taller!). So will take the risk I think.
I think there is a bit of plump room so to speak but not much room for a taller tyre as it'll buzz the seat tube. i.e. the stays are fairly wide and the plate bridge behind the cranks side helps a little too here.
If you check through the thread back a bit (I know it's a bit big!)there's some pics of the tyre clearance with popular tyres.
Thx - my hunch is the "please note" may be a later edit and is something to do with tyre vs front mech clearance. Apparently some people still run front mechs.
i have 2.35 hans dampfs on mine and a front mech, its close but there is enough room, i also had a 2.4 maxxis on and the front derrailleur wire was just about touching the tyre
Mattjg - Im building up an 18". should get it finished by early jan - if I come over towards SH you are welcome to ride it.
Thx, mail in profile if it works out.
Wasn't there an issue with On-One's own Smorgasbord tyres? The single compound ones fit fine, but the dual compound ones were a larger diameter and rubbed IIRC.
Even with only about 4mm between my tyre and the seat tube, I've never had an issue, even in clay.
I've got the dual compound ones on my medium and haven't had any issues.
Well there you go. That'll teach me to listen to Brant.
Regarding tyres. I had a On-onechunky monkey 2.4 dual compound on the back of mine with clearance(1×9).
There's a photo on p22 of this very thread.
Edit: on a crest rim.
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no, you should listen to him.
I just realised you were talking about mech clearance not frame. I'm running 1x9...
Hi Guys.
I am a rider for Denmark, looking for a cool AM bike, so i am following this tread clously.
But got some questions before i hit buy.
Hope some of you guys can help me.
Any of you owners have any problems with the seattube is to big, so thet the seatpost slips ?
Is the enough clearance between the backtyre and the front mach when it is real muddy ?
Hi nopanic - I'm still building mine up (bought frame-only), so not ridden it yet, but the seat post fits perfectly. I believe there were some seat post issues on early models, but it has been sorted now.
No Panic
absolutely no problems with seat slippage on mine
tyre clearance depends on which tyres you use
not much clearance at all on my 2.4 minions, but im happy with the clearance on the 2.35 hans dampf, and plenty of clearannce on the 2.25 smorgasbord
but earlier in the thread there was a link to a mod for the front derailleur which helped, but looked a bit naff imho
Lester
I like the Fireline and wanted something like it, the lack of clearance with a big tyre (mud not actual rub) is of concern but also Brant has stressed 120mm MAX for the fork. I also wanted a 142x12 bolt thru axle.
On. Separate note, we can be a bit blasé about putting bigger forks on stuff but the engineers do the calculations for a reason and its not geometry alone.
Witness Mike Sinyards point about a fake Spesh taking out all of someone's teeth and making a mess of their face when the headtube strapped off at speed. The consequences can be unpleasant. Just saying.